General & Others Luffy having a Nika Fruit, does not change anything. Luffy is the best fighter in the series.

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#69
Pretty sure Zoro announced his dream to be WSS before Kuina even voiced anything of the sort, though, so your reply had no basis in reality. :myman:
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I now wonder if we ought to consider the SHs to be Nika's crew, too, tbh. :denzimote:

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Feel like Luffy has been an hard worker but merely at traits, not much in comparison to what the Grandmaster went through.
 
#72
It depends how you define a best fighter.

If it means a fighter who has infinity luck and will. Always come back after thousand of defeats with harder punch. Sure he is the best fighter
If it means a fighter who use tactics and strategy to overcome opponents, nope... Nami is still better than Luffy
 
#73
It depends how you define a best fighter.

If it means a fighter who has infinity luck and will. Always come back after thousand of defeats with harder punch. Sure he is the best fighter
If it means a fighter who use tactics and strategy to overcome opponents, nope... Nami is still better than Luffy
Luffy is factually the best fighter. He is at the top of the world being mostly self taught with no fighting style or weapon.

Sanji, Zoro and everyone esle where taught professionally, trained base physical strength, and have martial arts or OP weapons to fight.

Zoro was taught swordsmanship as a kid, trained physically, taught advanced haki concepts as a child, got OP Swords, trianed with the WSS in Sword techniques, and one Magic Sword( that allows him to do what Roger, Shanks, Big Mom anr Whitebeard failed to do).

Sanji was taught Swordsmandship, recieved physical training, martial arts, got Germa Genes, iffrit Jumble.

Luffy ONLY has his Devil Fruit( aka self taught) and Haki. Also fights barehanded.

To top it off, Luffy has 3 Advanced Haki and is also strong without his Devil Fruit + haki shown in Udon Prison when he was wearing seastone cuffs
 
#75
Luffy is factually the best fighter. He is at the top of the world being mostly self taught with no fighting style or weapon.

Sanji, Zoro and everyone esle where taught professionally, trained base physical strength, and have martial arts or OP weapons to fight.

Zoro was taught swordsmanship as a kid, trained physically, taught advanced haki concepts as a child, got OP Swords, trianed with the WSS in Sword techniques, and one Magic Sword( that allows him to do what Roger, Shanks, Big Mom anr Whitebeard failed to do).

Sanji was taught Swordsmandship, recieved physical training, martial arts, got Germa Genes, iffrit Jumble.

Luffy ONLY has his Devil Fruit( aka self taught) and Haki. Also fights barehanded.
Theres soo much wrong with this...lets start...

-Zoro developed his own sword fighting style, he wasnt taught santoryu, at least thats what is stated at this point of the story unless Oda retcons it in a flashback or something. Soo mostly of what he learned was self taught.

-Luffy was clearly taught and trained by Garp as a young child, who was a WAY more OP teacher than Zoro's dojo master or Zeff. yes, he is self taught to some degree, but saying he didnt get any training while others did is just plain dishonest.

-What this nonse about Zoro's OP swords? the swords only enable him to tap on his own potential, a soo called OP sword would be no better than a stick in the hands of a fodder. Was Kuina capable of slicing mountains like current Zoro can when she dueled Zoro as a child? And i honestly would like to know what is this utter nonsensical bullshit about magic swords? wich sword is magical? Zoro is controlling all of them and using his own haki while doing soo.
 
#76
Theres soo much wrong with this...lets start...

-Zoro developed his own sword fighting style, he wasnt taught santoryu, at least thats what is stated at this point of the story unless Oda retcons it in a flashback or something. Soo mostly of what he learned was self taught.

-Luffy was clearly taught and trained by Garp as a young child, who was a WAY more OP teacher than Zoro's dojo master or Zeff. yes, he is dself taught to some degree, but saying he didnt get any training while others did is just plain dishonest.

-What this nonse about Zoro's OP swords? the swords only enable him to tap on his own potential, a soo called OP sword would be no better than a stick in the hands of a fodder. Was Kuina capable of slicing mountains like current Zoro can when she dueled Zoro as a child? And i honestly would like to know what is this utter nonsensical bullshit about magic swords? wich sword is magical? Zoro is controlling all of them and using his own haki while doing soo.
Garp only threw Luffy into the jungle and told him to survive. Once again proving my point of Luffy being self taught.

It does not change the fact that Swordsmanship was taught to Zoro by Koshiro. To make matters further, he was taught even more Swordsmanship techniaues by Mihawk.
 
#77
Garo only threw Luffy into the jungle and told him to survive. Once again proving my point of Luffy being self taught.
Not realy, as he beat up Luffy, Ace and Sabo multiple times as well.
It does not change the fact that Swordsmanship was taught to Zoro by Koshiro. To make matters further, he was taught even more Swordsmanship techniaues by Mihawk.
Again, its not even a matter of oppion, you are just plain wrong, Mihawk didnt teach Zoro swordmanship he only taught Zoro how to use haki, not his personal sword fighting style and atacks. Same as Rayleigh did with Luffy, soo again saying Zoro somehow got a better training than Luffy is just plain wrong.
 
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