General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Ballel]

Carrot's time will be over the moment she will disappear from the story (meaning at the end of wano)

So that's very soon, no?
Great that you admitted it!

 

[Logiko]

So that's very soon, no?
Great that you admitted it!

Yeah, the endgame is close.

 

[Ballel]

Yeah, the endgame is close.

Time for Carrot to go back to Zou

 

[Logiko]

Time for Carrot to go back to Zou

You guys are gonna be so surprised

 

[Ballel]

You guys are gonna be so surprised

No.
But I'm curious about your reaction when Carrot goes back to Zou. Will you just leave the forum or will you go on a rant . And what will this rant be made of? Complaining that One Piece is shit or elaborating on how Oda should have written Carrot better?

 

[Logiko]

No.
But I'm curious about your reaction when Carrot goes back to Zou. Will you just leave the forum or will you go on a rant . And what will this rant be made of? Complaining that One Piece is shit or elaborating on how Oda should have written Carrot better?

I already said what I would do if that was the case. I would be a little bit sad for a few seconds then I would move to something else. If Carrot had to go back to Zou, it means that Oda had to give her a good reason for that. So it would be narratively logical and I would be ok with that.

I always stated that weither Carrot joins or not, I will be gone after Wano. I'm here mainly to spread the theory, once that's gone there is no reason for me to stay.

 

[thedarkdragon11]

Yup. Strenght is not a recruitment parameter in One Piece. And Carrot is strong enough to hold her ground against fighter with 300/500 M bounty. So.. not a problem for her ;)

If it's not a requirement then the power gap between the SHs (outside Luffy) won't get this close... The essence of the need to gain power was activated after Sabaody... Meaning recruits after that should have that "parameter"... Hence we got Jinbe, someone who's made Wingtards pee... So as Yamato... You should've noticed that if you're an analyst...

I can't see even a Sulong Carrot giving the likes of Ulti and P1 a good fight...

Another thing that you should've noticed if you're an analyst is that every SHs has assaulted a Yonko by now... Yamato? Yes! Raizo? Yes! Carrot? Nah...

 

[Ballel]

Raizo

 

[Monkey D Al]

Well Pudding was never a real contender..

Neither is Carrot

 

[thedarkdragon11]

Raizo will join...

 

[Ballel]

Raizo will join...

No

 

[thedarkdragon11]

No

Yes... I admit his chances are slim but at least he has legit chances unlike the burden bunny...

 

[Monkey D Al]

Yes... I admit his chances are slim but at least he has legit chances unlike the burden bunny...

To be honest I don’t see anyone except Yamato having a chance. I like a lot of characters and would like them to join, but we have a lot of characters like Vivi,kinemon, Momo, raizo, etc who seem to have a chance but are only characters for a while. Yamato is the only one who gets main character attention, proclaims her dream of going out to sea, wants to join Luffy, doesn’t have anything that stands in her way(now). Everybody else you can talk it nicely and see clues everywhere but at the end… it’s a NO

 

[Roo]

No one who reads the story thinks she will join and also didn't ace tell her that she has to get older first?

Shanks real first lesson to Luffy was that kids don't belong in a pirate crew but nah he won't listen to Shanks because muh parallels

 

[Animangaboy]

if carrot joins, she will win. QED

Oda couldn't come up with carrot to beat perospero but u think she has something that goes up against BB pirates I never see your bunny rabbit girl get push to the limit in fighting so I doubt that she will even get something for Oda, Cause every SHs fight always make they get a realistic win no Plot Plot no mi 😭 so nice try thou

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Carrot is strong enough to hold her ground against fighter with 300/500 M bounty. So.. not a problem for her

U really think carrot in her base form can fight against 300/500 M bounty 😭😭 carrot can't even get pass Perospers but now you think she can go against 300 million bounty pirates Ulti alone would dog walk your bunny girl 😭😭😭 I don't know what are you smoking to think like that 😂

 

[KenshiraSonata]

well that's a totally different point lol

That's why I said, divide the strenght by two and you should get a prett good idea of her strengh around the one of a 300 M bounty man so around Brook. There is no need to make a comparison with Yamato here.



In this thread maybe.. in the community it's not that simple my dear. This thread is not the center of the world ;)




Yes we can




Ger introduction goes from the beginning of zou all the way toward chapter 823. And whole cake is here to etablish her relationship with the crew.

And nothing negates what happens so Carrot is at the same point now that Robin was just before joining the crew. Even more in front in fact.

So not only we can completely compare Robin and Carrot in that matter but we can also compare their status just before joining. The point is not to count the arc before the introduction, the point is the STATUS of the character before joining the crew definitively.



No. Right now Momo has more reason to stay in Wano than to go we Luffy compared to Carrot and Zou.


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Like always you are ALL forgetting a foundamental rule of storytelling:

Characters are humans.

This means that characters acts like humans do. And are.. like human falling under the rule of development inertia I conceptualized here.

"But how does this applies to Carrot ?" you may ask after reading this.. well..

Carrot is a 15 years old girl (who never left her island) who sent herself into the most EXITING & WONDERFUL adventure there is on the planet. Basically it's like if a 15 yo teenagers who never left his backyard went out and discovered the most exciting roller coaster there is.

So.. here come your reasonning: After having a bit of fun, you are asking this 15 year old teenager NEVER to return on that adventure ever again and stay in his backyard for the rest of his life

Well that's where development inertia comes into plays : When there is an inertia in a development (let's say Anakin is becoming a Jedi..) there must be an EQUAL opposite force to make the development of the character go into the opposite way (Meaning that Anakin can't become Dark Vader over night, there must be STRONG reasons to make him follow the opposite pass of the jedi). That's how human works. We don't change over night unless there is an amazing amount of force put behind the development.

So like a real human who will never go back home and pass on the chances to have more fun for no reason a character like Carrot who choose the pass of adventure and discover an entire world of wonder CAN'T NARRATIVELY change pass to go back home without a strong reason.

I hope this is clearer now. Because as the saying goes: "Once a pirate.. ALWAYS a pirate".

To make Carrot go back home, Oda needs to give her a reason to go back or it will feel strange.
To make Carrot become a captain in the fleet, Oda needs to start making Carrot act as a leader or it will feel strange.

That's why the dialogue from Carrot (because the death of Pedro and her defeat):

"Luffy, I can't go with you, I would be useless, I'm not meant to be a pirate".. would feel STRANGE and would be the sign that this dialogue is a subversion dialogue. The same kind of dialogue screamed by Chopper "but I'm just a monster" just before being recruited.

Let me state why Momo has to travel with SH

1. Being a Kozuki he should witness the dawn of the world, which is not just about liberating wano.
2. Being a Kozuki he should learn to use the ancient writing, guess whos the only person who could teach him that
3. Being Oden's son he should reach Raftel to witness what Oden witness
4. Being a zoan he should learn to use its abilities well, guess who has mastered 7 forms of zoan
5. He is relevant unlike your furtits

 

[Sigran101]

We don't know that. And EVEN if we did, now her perception of adventure is completely different, meaning that now this is not just a "fun ride" anymore, this is the most exciting adventure she has been through. Like most of the cahracter in One Piece, Carrot has gone through a radical change on that front, she discovered things she didn't even dreamed of. And that's enough to conclude that characterisation is constructed in order for Carrot to stay on that adventure.

And no, the burden of proof is still not on me, the story is with me here not with those who are saying that she will return. NOTHING in the story shows that, the story is showing the opposite.




So if carrot joins, she will win. QED..





Lmao you all made my point.. xD
Glad you guyz understand that not only strawhats have combo, in fact most of important characters and strong antagonists have ones ;)




Yup. Strenght is not a recruitment parameter in One Piece. And Carrot is strong enough to hold her ground against fighter with 300/500 M bounty. So.. not a problem for her ;)

You are beyond help my friend. Looks like you actually don't even know anything about Carrot, let alone Yamato. You willfully ignore what's blatantly said on panel to fuel your bias. It's to the point that you have to know you are blinded by bias, because Carrot wanting to return to Zou after her adventure when she first set out is an objective fact explicitely stated in the manga. Not worth arguing with someone this delusion.

 

[Monkey D Al]

And no, the burden of proof is still not on me, the story is with me here

How is the story with you on this? For the story to be with you Carrot would have to be in the story. Which she is not.
Guys I don’t have time to do this. Does anybody know how much carrot has been in the story for the past 3-4 years?

 

[Finalbeta]

 

[Monkey D Al]

But but Carrot can…. Float