@CarrotForNakama do u seriously think Carrot got more chances to join or relevance to the story than Yamato?
Well.. it's not like my mind changed in a week lol
I was going to address each Straw Hat individually, but I can just summarize it: Not once has any Straw Hat changed their dream. The only difference is that they are also now willing to put their lives on the line for each other. That is vastly different than giving up on their dreams.
See, that's the problem.
You guys are arguing on the bases that Yamato has a "dream".
Wrong.
She has none. It's a fan invention. Yamato never stated that leaving out to sea was her dream.
Remember that dreams have a purpose in term of character arc. Yamato going out to sea has none. (just as the fact that Carrot has no dream either)
What you are searching for is the word "
desire". Yamato indeed has a strong desire, just like every strawhats or important chararacters. But that's just it. It's a desire, nothing more and in a story,
desires tends to change.
You have biased yourself by thinking that Yamato had a dream. She has none, at least none that were revealed and the closest thing she has as an end goal would be to live freely. It's something that won't change weither she is on Wano or on the seas.
I repeat: Yamato has no dream stated in the story yet.
I repeat again differently: There was no dream stated for Yamato in the story.
Now that it's clear: Desires can change and Yamato's desire will most likely follow the same pass.
Rebecca always wanted to live with Toy Soldier, with the ironic twist of the soldier being her dad. Her desire didn't change, she always wanted to keep living with the same person.
Like I said, a desire can be an old desire. The character arc of Rebecca made her question that desire. Which created a change of desire making her want to stay alone at the castle. The exact reason why Luffy got mad. That's all the point of the last part of the arc where Luffy makes her admit what she really wants:
to live with her dad. Her desire then changed again for the better and she choosed to follow Luffy to Kyros, therefore creating (because of Luffy) an emotionnal end to the storyline of Rebecca and Kyros.
A desire can be pretty much temporary, it's still a narrative force that brings characters to make their choices.
That's a basic and necessary part of the storytelling of One Piece.
So explain why Yamato is the one who will fully give up her current dream to leave Wano and not her reason for leaving
Like I said. No dream here. Just a strong desire. Desires can change.
but Carrot will only change her reasons for leaving Zou but not her supposed dream of leaving?
A change of desire must come in relationship to the storyline of the character arc of said character. That's why for Yamato the desire will change from the sea to Wano.. because her storyline is precisely angled in that direction:
The storyline of Onigashima is putting Yamato on the pass of the protection of Wano despite her desire to sail the sea (in opposite to Oden). This is a clue that indicates us that if Yamato has to have a change of desire, this change will concentrate on that same shift: from the sea > to Wano.
To create a shift concerning her adventure at sea, Yamato would need to have a storyline related to her vision of the sea. But this didn't happen.
(I want to go at sea and sail with Luffy because I want to be free and Luffy is Ace's brother > To > I want to protect Wano because it's what I really want to do and I'm free to choose my OWN pass)
On the contrary, that exact thing is happening to Carrot. Her vision of the sea is being challenged. Oda has been hinting us a character development for her (her defeat with Perospero, the words of Pedro), creating the expectation of a change of desire.
Carrot started with a clear vision of the sea: The sea is something simple, something easy, something fun. That precise vision has been completely shattered by her journey and her different defeats and tragedies. Now, we know that the sea is not something so easy for Carrot anymore even if she didn't stated it. So here we have the beginning of the change, the reason behind the change of desire. From there, there are multiple speculatives possibilities:
- Carrot could learn something about Luffy, making her understand that she must not go for the same reasons. That would therefore change the nature of her desire.
Or more probable:
- Carrot could pass through the same kind of change Chopper went through: She could simple refuse to return at sea. (because of what she went through and what Perospero told her". That's where the subversion dialogue "I'm not made to be a pirate" from Carrot would appear. It would be a subversion dialogue because this sentence is corrupted by the fact that it's not because you are young, or naive, or cheerful.. that you can't go on the sea.. it would go against One Piece's message. Carrot would therefore be bound to understand that she is indeed meant to go at sea.. Creating a double change of desire.. much like the majority of the strawhats
("I want to go because it's fun" > to > "I don't want to go, I'm not build for it" > to > Screw it, "I'm a pirate at heart, who cares?")
To sum up:
Yamato's desire might change from what she think freedom is to what she truly wants to do
&
Carrot's desire might change from what she think she is to what she truly wants to do
