Roe vs Wade Overturned?
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Typical victim mentality
The lives of these absolute scums are not her responsibility. THEY decided to ruin their own lives when they forced sex on a woman.
Rape should get much harsher punishments than just a prison sentence, if you know what I mean.
Can't even imagine what she and her family must be going through. I hope she finds the strength to file those police reports. These shits deserve the worst of the worst.
Yeah karma's a bitch.
They should never be able to get back to having normal lives in society. Make them suffer.
The lives of these absolute scums are not her responsibility. THEY decided to ruin their own lives when they forced sex on a woman.
Rape should get much harsher punishments than just a prison sentence, if you know what I mean.
Can't even imagine what she and her family must be going through. I hope she finds the strength to file those police reports. These shits deserve the worst of the worst.
Yeah karma's a bitch.
They should never be able to get back to having normal lives in society. Make them suffer.
Just posting my opinion 😐
There are few pressing issues here.
1) Few people in court should not get to decide on such matters. Courts are not directly elected body.
The matter should be decided by law makers or the best course would be referendum so people as a whole can directly decide what's best for them.
2) I read here that someone said women can get pregnant only during specific time of her cycle.
Don't know which biology lecture he took but women can get pregnant anytime during their cycle.
Yes, there is a fertility window when a woman has more chance to conceive but don't ever mistaken that's the only time she can get pregnant.
Sperms can last upto 7 days inside women's body so she can get pregnant anytime during her cycle (though chances are less but still there is a possibility)
Also, menstrual cycle of women varies significantly and it's not easy to track. So this argument is mute.
That's why protection is advised everytime (along with to prevent STDs)🤷
3) coming on to protection - they don't work everytime anyway. 🤦 So not 100% reliable either.
Now I will come to topic -
Having a baby or not is mutual decision of the couple.
But many times protection doesn't work or women gets sexually abused or men runs away after getting a woman pregnant and in such cases it's the woman who had to face everything.
And, in almost all such cases it's the men who are first to ask for abortion or runs away to shed the responsibility of raising the child.
Also, It's undeniable fact that mother plays pivotal role in raising a child - from carrying a baby in her womb for 9 months to investing her time and her own life in raising child. Many times they give up their own career to raise the child.
So yes a woman should have every right to decide whether they want to have a baby or whether go for abortion.
And, how taking away this right from women for a child who isn't not even foetally viable makes sense? This is absurd.
Anyway, that's my two cents. Peace out ✌️
There are few pressing issues here.
1) Few people in court should not get to decide on such matters. Courts are not directly elected body.
The matter should be decided by law makers or the best course would be referendum so people as a whole can directly decide what's best for them.
2) I read here that someone said women can get pregnant only during specific time of her cycle.
Don't know which biology lecture he took but women can get pregnant anytime during their cycle.
Yes, there is a fertility window when a woman has more chance to conceive but don't ever mistaken that's the only time she can get pregnant.
Sperms can last upto 7 days inside women's body so she can get pregnant anytime during her cycle (though chances are less but still there is a possibility)
Also, menstrual cycle of women varies significantly and it's not easy to track. So this argument is mute.
That's why protection is advised everytime (along with to prevent STDs)🤷
3) coming on to protection - they don't work everytime anyway. 🤦 So not 100% reliable either.
Now I will come to topic -
Having a baby or not is mutual decision of the couple.
But many times protection doesn't work or women gets sexually abused or men runs away after getting a woman pregnant and in such cases it's the woman who had to face everything.
And, in almost all such cases it's the men who are first to ask for abortion or runs away to shed the responsibility of raising the child.
Also, It's undeniable fact that mother plays pivotal role in raising a child - from carrying a baby in her womb for 9 months to investing her time and her own life in raising child. Many times they give up their own career to raise the child.
So yes a woman should have every right to decide whether they want to have a baby or whether go for abortion.
And, how taking away this right from women for a child who isn't not even foetally viable makes sense? This is absurd.
Anyway, that's my two cents. Peace out ✌️
"easy".I don't know what you are trying to say here exactly.
1) Whether a couple wants to have a baby or not is their own sole prerogative and choice. You, me or anyone else has no say in the matter because it's infringe into right to life with Liberty of that couple.
2) Now let's come to the part "Life of baby"
First, I will address what are the signs of life or living being? Ability to reproduce, grow on it's own, movements and so on are the signs of life.
Now, it's clear that pregnancy can happen even if a woman doesn't want to.
Once an egg is fertilised, zygote is formed and then forms the Embryo.
Baby develop first heart beat after 7-8 weeks of getting pregnant or during the 2 month of pregnancy.
Keep in mind that Women don't have regular menstrual cycle. I know a girl who got pregnant and she didn't know for 1and a half months because her cycle fluctuates from 40 days to sometimes even 60/70 days.
The first sign of movement by baby takes place during 4th month of pregnancy.
A baby can survive outside after 6/7 months of pregnancy - foetal viability.
Now let me tell you something very important -
Most abortions take place within first two months itself before baby even develops a heart beat.
Some takes place between 2 to 4 months that is before baby shows sign of movements.
So, abortion before this period doesn't equate to taking life of a baby when baby didn't even shown signs of life.
Now you can say well zygote is formed right at the beginning so that's life but then by logic you shouldn't even eat eggs because you are taking life 🤦
Also, giving birth to a child is huge decision and since women can get pregnant even if they don't want to then they need sufficient time after conception to decide whether they want to have baby or not.
You can't take away this right to choice from women when in the end they are ones who will raise baby for whole life.
Abortion between 4-7 months or between 4 months to foetal viability period happens when people go for abortion after determing sex or when there is some accident or health concerns.
In first scenario, sex determination and subsequent abortion has been made illegal in many countries.
And, second scenario demands abortion without saying.
After 7 months, abortion usually doesn't happen as it's very risky unless health concerns or some mishap happens.
So, yes most women are acting responsibly before and after pregnancy and women deserves to have right to choice considering everything.
Anyway, feel free to disagree. I really don't want to get into this discussion. I am here for trolling 🤷
1) Whether a couple wants to have a baby or not is their own sole prerogative and choice. You, me or anyone else has no say in the matter because it's infringe into right to life with Liberty of that couple.
2) Now let's come to the part "Life of baby"
First, I will address what are the signs of life or living being? Ability to reproduce, grow on it's own, movements and so on are the signs of life.
Now, it's clear that pregnancy can happen even if a woman doesn't want to.
Once an egg is fertilised, zygote is formed and then forms the Embryo.
Baby develop first heart beat after 7-8 weeks of getting pregnant or during the 2 month of pregnancy.
Keep in mind that Women don't have regular menstrual cycle. I know a girl who got pregnant and she didn't know for 1and a half months because her cycle fluctuates from 40 days to sometimes even 60/70 days.
The first sign of movement by baby takes place during 4th month of pregnancy.
A baby can survive outside after 6/7 months of pregnancy - foetal viability.
Now let me tell you something very important -
Most abortions take place within first two months itself before baby even develops a heart beat.
Some takes place between 2 to 4 months that is before baby shows sign of movements.
So, abortion before this period doesn't equate to taking life of a baby when baby didn't even shown signs of life.
Now you can say well zygote is formed right at the beginning so that's life but then by logic you shouldn't even eat eggs because you are taking life 🤦
Also, giving birth to a child is huge decision and since women can get pregnant even if they don't want to then they need sufficient time after conception to decide whether they want to have baby or not.
You can't take away this right to choice from women when in the end they are ones who will raise baby for whole life.
Abortion between 4-7 months or between 4 months to foetal viability period happens when people go for abortion after determing sex or when there is some accident or health concerns.
In first scenario, sex determination and subsequent abortion has been made illegal in many countries.
And, second scenario demands abortion without saying.
After 7 months, abortion usually doesn't happen as it's very risky unless health concerns or some mishap happens.
So, yes most women are acting responsibly before and after pregnancy and women deserves to have right to choice considering everything.
Anyway, feel free to disagree. I really don't want to get into this discussion. I am here for trolling 🤷
of course you are pro life lol
it’s also morally wrong to force women and children to go through with pregnancies with no regard to how it will affect them, yall wanna care about the “baby” inside but have no problem the with the amount of damage and trauma that it will cause to the girl by birthing it
it’s not “feelings” and you can’t call it that when you know nothing and wont have to go through what they go through
pro-“lifes” keep mentioning adoption but there’s already hundreds of thousands of kids in foster care living in terrible conditions already why increase that number. unless you adopted children or frequently donated towards them then you don’t get to tell women that they should just put it up for adoption
also making the couple against their will when they aren’t ready financially and emotionally will just scar the child for life they will either have a terrible life in poverty or get abused by their parents, and who will help them when that happens? you?
pro lifes don’t actually care about the fetus because if they did they would would have supported the fetus from birth until adulthood but you don’t see any of them doing that
it’s also morally wrong to force women and children to go through with pregnancies with no regard to how it will affect them, yall wanna care about the “baby” inside but have no problem the with the amount of damage and trauma that it will cause to the girl by birthing it
it’s not “feelings” and you can’t call it that when you know nothing and wont have to go through what they go through
pro-“lifes” keep mentioning adoption but there’s already hundreds of thousands of kids in foster care living in terrible conditions already why increase that number. unless you adopted children or frequently donated towards them then you don’t get to tell women that they should just put it up for adoption
also making the couple against their will when they aren’t ready financially and emotionally will just scar the child for life they will either have a terrible life in poverty or get abused by their parents, and who will help them when that happens? you?
pro lifes don’t actually care about the fetus because if they did they would would have supported the fetus from birth until adulthood but you don’t see any of them doing that
You use baby in quotation even though it;s clearly humanoid by 16 weeks and earlier depending how you wanna argue human features but yea pretty clear that the thing being killed is a baby. wither you see that as right or wrong is merely your own opinion but it would certainly be a baby by far earlier then what's often suggested by left wing political pundits
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It's the man's child, He should take care of it
Kids are born by two parents not one, both should be responsible for what happens
I dislike child support as alot of the time, Men are forced to pay for kids which are not their own. if it's not his kid then it's not his problem to take care of it. However if it's his kid then he should pay child support and get time to spend with time with the child if that's what the father wants
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