Powers & Abilities How Sanji vs Queen and Zoro vs King play out?
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No Zoro was already strong to begin with remember. Zoro just touched Enma and he was being compared to Oden through feats and Kawamtsu was praising him like he was tough shit. Fuckin Tenguyama watches Zoro train for a few days and he says Zoro is already on the way to make a black blade. That's a feat only the fuckin GOD OF WANO has ever pulled off and Tenguyama just says Zoro can do it
Like you are of the mind set that Zoro's been a weakling all along yet that's never shown.
Then Zoro says he will get even stronger after training and then you add on shit like Zoro learning new shit during the fight like he learns to cut King's fire... But nahhh, I suppose you think Zoro's been like on Opera's level or some shit
Like you are of the mind set that Zoro's been a weakling all along yet that's never shown.
Then Zoro says he will get even stronger after training and then you add on shit like Zoro learning new shit during the fight like he learns to cut King's fire... But nahhh, I suppose you think Zoro's been like on Opera's level or some shit
Sanji himself stated that Nami had told him everything. He isn't fighting Blueno confused nor unaware of the situation. Any other example you're proposing doesn't really affect his determination; precisely, the possibility of Robin not cooperating is even a reason to encourage them to defeat her captors to save her life. Where you see confusion I see Sanji understanding the situation and comprehending that Robin may not necessarily be willing to act (which is completely reasonable). Everybody is well aware of their goal, they're ready to kick the CP9's ass and declare war to the World Government and Luffy just pushes this determination to Robin herself when he makes here admit she wants to live.
So, in other words, what you posted is no Straw Hat's problem but Robin's. They're perfectly aware of what happened and what they want to achieve.
By the way, there is no moment when the crew learned from Iceberg. Iceberg tells Nami the story and then shares it gradually with the rest. There's no difference between Nami explaining it to Luffy and Zoro and doing so to Sanji.
I'm not using it to justify that Sanji is on the level of a Yonko commander but to question your vague statement about his New World performance.
Yes, and Franky is a cyborg so he may fight Queen as well. Now try to look at my list of coincidental and irrelevant things as a whole, you may then understand the difference between your single justification and the picture deriving from the sum of mine.
So, in other words, what you posted is no Straw Hat's problem but Robin's. They're perfectly aware of what happened and what they want to achieve.
By the way, there is no moment when the crew learned from Iceberg. Iceberg tells Nami the story and then shares it gradually with the rest. There's no difference between Nami explaining it to Luffy and Zoro and doing so to Sanji.
I'm not using it to justify that Sanji is on the level of a Yonko commander but to question your vague statement about his New World performance.
Yes, and Franky is a cyborg so he may fight Queen as well. Now try to look at my list of coincidental and irrelevant things as a whole, you may then understand the difference between your single justification and the picture deriving from the sum of mine.
Never said Hawkins was a topi roppo, but simply a candidate opponent... also since when did he use his best moves lol, he even said a good card nothing ever indicated he used much of his strength to fight back then...
yes to both Drake is that strong and Zoro isn’t as strong as you make him out to be... and we don’t know what Drake can and cannot tank so let’s leave that aside. Since when was King was known to be this renowned swordsman to be this step stone for Zoro to beat for the goal of being WSS lol. all calamities have swords doesn’t mean much when nothing indicate they have high world class mastery in using them thus calling even just one to be a noteworthy swordsman...
yes to both Drake is that strong and Zoro isn’t as strong as you make him out to be... and we don’t know what Drake can and cannot tank so let’s leave that aside. Since when was King was known to be this renowned swordsman to be this step stone for Zoro to beat for the goal of being WSS lol. all calamities have swords doesn’t mean much when nothing indicate they have high world class mastery in using them thus calling even just one to be a noteworthy swordsman...
Oh so If Hawkins comes into a fight having prepped his 10 lives and then Zoro casually swipes at Hawkins and kills him we should count that as Zoro low diffed hawkins right? Even though he damage has been transfered. Because abilities acquired through prep time and ingenuity do not count as being counted among your actual abilities when in a fight. Okay. I suppose Those 10 lives don't belong to Hawkins so Zoro did in fact low diff Hawkins. All the shit that came afterwards was just noise.
Oh do you I have to explain to you that Zoro plans on beating Mihawk 1v1? Hmmm... I know you remember the scene in baratie where even Luffy stopped Johnny and yosaku from interfering... but I guess according to you that doesn't count as Maybe Zoro's deal is that he has to win 1v1... Hmmm... Also the fact that the title is a singular title as "World's strongest swordsman" and not "swordsmen"... Also I suppose the fact that Zoro's been beating all his opponents 1v1 for 1000 chapters is NOT a indicator that Zoro always does that.
Shit I'm stumped... I'm sure you know all the above and yet you insist you think Oda can give Zoro a final fight that's not 1v1... I guess I have no way of convincing you... Not even one single point
Oh do you I have to explain to you that Zoro plans on beating Mihawk 1v1? Hmmm... I know you remember the scene in baratie where even Luffy stopped Johnny and yosaku from interfering... but I guess according to you that doesn't count as Maybe Zoro's deal is that he has to win 1v1... Hmmm... Also the fact that the title is a singular title as "World's strongest swordsman" and not "swordsmen"... Also I suppose the fact that Zoro's been beating all his opponents 1v1 for 1000 chapters is NOT a indicator that Zoro always does that.
Shit I'm stumped... I'm sure you know all the above and yet you insist you think Oda can give Zoro a final fight that's not 1v1... I guess I have no way of convincing you... Not even one single point
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Hawkins before the fight says "I'm not stupid enough to fight two members of the worst generation head on without preparations"
Hehehe... Then Hawkins draws a bunch of cards as his men get stomped and he ends with pulling out the Strawman card....
You don't think his words indicate that he is in fact pulling out a technique that he believes can actually match up to two worst generation members? Or do you think a card that matches up to two worst generation members isn't even one of Hawkin's best cards? Hehehe... that was a low tier ability to him huh?
Anyway king is the strongest man under kaido and he's a swordsman so I would go as far as to say hes the strongest swordsman in Wano, the land of swordsmen... But if you believe Zoro is such a chump that he can't even lick the boots of the strongest swordsman in the land of swordsmen yet he's supposedly gonna become WSS then I guess that's on you
Hehehe... Then Hawkins draws a bunch of cards as his men get stomped and he ends with pulling out the Strawman card....
You don't think his words indicate that he is in fact pulling out a technique that he believes can actually match up to two worst generation members? Or do you think a card that matches up to two worst generation members isn't even one of Hawkin's best cards? Hehehe... that was a low tier ability to him huh?
Anyway king is the strongest man under kaido and he's a swordsman so I would go as far as to say hes the strongest swordsman in Wano, the land of swordsmen... But if you believe Zoro is such a chump that he can't even lick the boots of the strongest swordsman in the land of swordsmen yet he's supposedly gonna become WSS then I guess that's on you
Luffy seeing 3 steps into the future is impossible thing since there is nothing after step 1. Oda fucked himself up, not that he ever cared too much about consistency... Katakuri would dodge a hit at least.
How many times you will use "he was angry" excuse? Every time he doesnt use it?
That is bad up-time of FS either way. Being angry is Luffy's trait. When is he not angry, lol?
How many times you will use "he was angry" excuse? Every time he doesnt use it?
That is bad up-time of FS either way. Being angry is Luffy's trait. When is he not angry, lol?
Hawkins doesn’t chose the card he would use whatever he pick uses.. whether it’s low or high tier card technique, saying it’s a good card doesn’t equal one of his best attacks.
Since you talk so much about the strongest swordsman in wano then it would be BM not King so are we gonna have BM vs Zoro lol , just having a sword doesn’t mean it’s all he has in a fight heck even while facing BMP he could have used his sword to cut the ship in half, but guess what happened... so chill with claiming King is the strongest swordsman in wano.
Since you talk so much about the strongest swordsman in wano then it would be BM not King so are we gonna have BM vs Zoro lol , just having a sword doesn’t mean it’s all he has in a fight heck even while facing BMP he could have used his sword to cut the ship in half, but guess what happened... so chill with claiming King is the strongest swordsman in wano.
Except that Sanji wasn’t aware that it was simply about the buster call being used against them. He thought that if she knew that they knew and didn’t care, that she would come with them. He was clearly distressed when she chose otherwise, compounded when she attacked Usopp. And then he was caught off guard when Blueno added to it.
It was their problem, all the way. The point of the arc was that her problems were theirs.
Um, I know? What relevance does this have to do with that I said? When did I say that Iceberg told Luffy? When did I say that it mattered where Sanji learned it from? And it wasn’t from Zoro, it was from Nami, and he was already on the train by that point, he learned just before fighting Wanzo. I don’t know why you think this is a point.
Which was used on my part to argue against the justification of him fighting a commander, you only gave the specifics of why. You used those as if they refute my point about is readiness, as if those were qualifications.
lol so because the power rangers has a brachiosaurus as a theme for one of them, it carries more weight than Chopper directly combating and defeating one of Queen’s own machinations.
Literally no idea what this has to do with anything.
Never said that Zoro was going to fight Mihawk with someone else. I wanted to know the specific time that it was stated that Zoro must fight all swordsman 1v1. I won’t remind you that if that’s a qualification, he’s failed, because he fight Pica (a swordsman) with help.
It was their problem, all the way. The point of the arc was that her problems were theirs.
Um, I know? What relevance does this have to do with that I said? When did I say that Iceberg told Luffy? When did I say that it mattered where Sanji learned it from? And it wasn’t from Zoro, it was from Nami, and he was already on the train by that point, he learned just before fighting Wanzo. I don’t know why you think this is a point.
Which was used on my part to argue against the justification of him fighting a commander, you only gave the specifics of why. You used those as if they refute my point about is readiness, as if those were qualifications.
lol so because the power rangers has a brachiosaurus as a theme for one of them, it carries more weight than Chopper directly combating and defeating one of Queen’s own machinations.
Literally no idea what this has to do with anything.
Never said that Zoro was going to fight Mihawk with someone else. I wanted to know the specific time that it was stated that Zoro must fight all swordsman 1v1. I won’t remind you that if that’s a qualification, he’s failed, because he fight Pica (a swordsman) with help.