Chapter Discussion Akainu kept sending Marines after Mihawk for nothing
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True, but gravity is a beast fruit, I'd rank it second in line after Gura as paramecias that equal logias.
Fujitora has already portrayed hax CoO, when you breakdown DR lift as a feat it's just insane. Not a single living being was hurt, he spared all functioning inanimate objects on the span of a country like Dressrosa. From the constant Ws he gets at gambling we can assume FS.
I expect someone like Fuji to compensate for lack of intangiability with hax defense consisting of CoO and gravity pulling back evertthing. I'm sure we will get a plausible explanation as to why he's bandaged. I'll hold my L proudly for Fuji.
He has balls of steel, talks back to Akainu, ready to fight Gb on the spot, enraged at the WG, abolished the warlord system, basically Oda fattening him up for the fleet admiral position EoS.
Fujitora looks like a god in this page
Fujitora has already portrayed hax CoO, when you breakdown DR lift as a feat it's just insane. Not a single living being was hurt, he spared all functioning inanimate objects on the span of a country like Dressrosa. From the constant Ws he gets at gambling we can assume FS.
I expect someone like Fuji to compensate for lack of intangiability with hax defense consisting of CoO and gravity pulling back evertthing. I'm sure we will get a plausible explanation as to why he's bandaged. I'll hold my L proudly for Fuji.
He has balls of steel, talks back to Akainu, ready to fight Gb on the spot, enraged at the WG, abolished the warlord system, basically Oda fattening him up for the fleet admiral position EoS.
Fujitora looks like a god in this page
True, but gravity is a beast fruit, I'd rank it second in line after Gura as paramecias that equal logias.
Fujitora has already portrayed hax CoO, when you breakdown DR lift as a feat it's just insane. Not a single living being was hurt, he spared all functioning inanimate objects on the span of a country like Dressrosa. From the constant Ws he gets at gambling we can assume FS.
I expect someone like Fuji to compensate for lack of intangiability with hax defense consisting of CoO and gravity pulling back evertthing. I'm sure we will get a plausible explanation as to why he's bandaged. I'll hold my L proudly for Fuji.
He has balls of steel, talks back to Akainu, ready to fight Gb on the spot, enraged at the WG, abolished the warlord system, basically Oda fattening him up for the fleet admiral position EoS.
Fujitora looks like a god in this page
Fujitora has already portrayed hax CoO, when you breakdown DR lift as a feat it's just insane. Not a single living being was hurt, he spared all functioning inanimate objects on the span of a country like Dressrosa. From the constant Ws he gets at gambling we can assume FS.
I expect someone like Fuji to compensate for lack of intangiability with hax defense consisting of CoO and gravity pulling back evertthing. I'm sure we will get a plausible explanation as to why he's bandaged. I'll hold my L proudly for Fuji.
He has balls of steel, talks back to Akainu, ready to fight Gb on the spot, enraged at the WG, abolished the warlord system, basically Oda fattening him up for the fleet admiral position EoS.
Fujitora looks like a god in this page
From all the attacks Fuji has shown, meteors ignored, raging tiger ignored, dropping rubble ignored, Logias take no damage. Obviously Fuji can force away any attack that comes his way as well but if something manages to land he does take damage. You can claim that's a matchup thing but how many matchup disadvantages do top tier logias have? It'll be interesting to see how Oda deals with incorporating haki into gravity.
His fruit is definitely S tier up there with the Gura easily, just like the gura it's the most overwhelming force. But even the Gura lacks the complete package that the top tier logias provide.
Sengoku didn't have a logia and still made it to the top brass. A balanced offensive and defensive df, that is still broken in its own regard, with suoerior haki can compensate, won't get into CoC but an extraordinary FS can definitely make up for it with the points I mentioned.
Honestly I have no answer to this one, we have only seen Fuji fight casually so far so we wouldn't know. But he was still willing to have a go with Gb. What I'm sure of tho is you can't qualify for the postion itself if you can't deal with logias, no way that makes sense.
Sabo was also overwhelmed at the end of their fight, iirc he got angry that Fuji didn't take the fight seriously altho Sabo gave his best shot
Honestly I have no answer to this one, we have only seen Fuji fight casually so far so we wouldn't know. But he was still willing to have a go with Gb. What I'm sure of tho is you can't qualify for the postion itself if you can't deal with logias, no way that makes sense.
Sabo was also overwhelmed at the end of their fight, iirc he got angry that Fuji didn't take the fight seriously altho Sabo gave his best shot
Well the issue is Fuji is so overwhelming that he's even hard to approach. We saw how tough it was for Sabo and Luffy to not get blown back by raging tiger.
Any fire fist attacks are dispersed easily by Fuji and then he can pin you down. Maybe he uses his blade to deal the final blow? But my point is it's not like Logias just get to casually land or walk up to Fujitora, just that they don't take damage, they're gonna find it equally hard if not more to overwhelm Fuji in any clashes, I reckon he has the upper hand in clashes. This alone makes him an Admiral tier fighter.
Like Fuji is gonna send Kuzan and his ice based attacks crumbling every time, Kizaru flying back almost everytime, gonna wreck GB's forest to oblivion. He's winning the battle of strength, but it's potency he lacks against them, this only matters against other top tier logias no one else, because it becomes a battle of attrition, (against non Admiral logias Fuji's basic swordplay infused with haki could be used to land the finishing blow) and really only the WG has top tier logias at their disposal.
Any fire fist attacks are dispersed easily by Fuji and then he can pin you down. Maybe he uses his blade to deal the final blow? But my point is it's not like Logias just get to casually land or walk up to Fujitora, just that they don't take damage, they're gonna find it equally hard if not more to overwhelm Fuji in any clashes, I reckon he has the upper hand in clashes. This alone makes him an Admiral tier fighter.
Like Fuji is gonna send Kuzan and his ice based attacks crumbling every time, Kizaru flying back almost everytime, gonna wreck GB's forest to oblivion. He's winning the battle of strength, but it's potency he lacks against them, this only matters against other top tier logias no one else, because it becomes a battle of attrition, (against non Admiral logias Fuji's basic swordplay infused with haki could be used to land the finishing blow) and really only the WG has top tier logias at their disposal.
But isn't that how it works for logias against each other too? I mean, what can Kizaru accomplish by putting holes in Akainu if they're not Haki imbued? And there is no point in Akainu throwing attacks at Kizaru if they're not Haki imbued either. And if the logia admirals could imbue their attacks with haki, then Fujitora should be able to do it too, in which case, his attacks would affect the logia admirals.
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Marines have surrounded Mihawk's island in at least 2 different occasions. I hope they're all safe.
Instead of risking your quality troops whom Mihawk can easily kill and take away part of your military prowess, you just send spare to piss him off.
If this were any other manga it would be ok, Oda can come up with strengths and weaknesses. Fuji would just have to brush up on his base sword skills against Logias (so really any non top tier logia is toast), imagine he pulls you in, pins you down with gravity and then nails you to the ground with his sword. Like my post above, Fuji wins in every clash against any logia tbh. Only the Gura can compete in raw force imo.
Knowing Oda he might just bs his way into it like "hur dur he somehow is using willpower with his gravity and it works." Until that is shown though I'm gonna roll with what makes the most logical sense based off what we've been shown. Otherwise there would be no point to different abilities, it all boils down to hur dur haki, those arguments are lame as hell.
Knowing Oda he might just bs his way into it like "hur dur he somehow is using willpower with his gravity and it works." Until that is shown though I'm gonna roll with what makes the most logical sense based off what we've been shown. Otherwise there would be no point to different abilities, it all boils down to hur dur haki, those arguments are lame as hell.
It goes the other way too, Akainu and Aokiji's battle was a battle of attrition where both fruits negate each other and have direct effect on the elements produces, but if you mix the matchups you get awkward encounters like Kizaru shooting lazer beams at Akainu, nothing will come out of that. He can use his kicks/swords but this is CQC afterall which is something Fujitrora can do too.
Meteors for example would provide a great matchup advantage against Aokiji and Greenbull. It boils down to a CQC in your scenario.
But there has to be some new trick to it. You can never qualify for the position if you can't deal with one of the three df types.
Meteors for example would provide a great matchup advantage against Aokiji and Greenbull. It boils down to a CQC in your scenario.
But there has to be some new trick to it. You can never qualify for the position if you can't deal with one of the three df types.
Yea but the difference is in CQC the logia's can still rely on their elements no? Fuji would be using his gravity as a setup only, not the thing that deals damage. Which is ok by me, it adds creativity, and logias exist for a reason, they're not supposed to be easy to deal with. If it adds another layer for Fuji to deal with it only shows you why they're such troublesome abilities.
