Questions & Mysteries Did the last 2 chapters change your view about the Final Villain?
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The idea of Blackbeard replacing Imu as final antagonist is incredibly weak.
Imu is an existence that represents 800 years of tyranny (and all the atrocities and crimes committed therein) by the World Government and is deeply tied to all the biggest mysteries of One Piece:
Imu is themselves one of said biggest mysteries.
Compared to that, Blackbeard is nothing. He's Luffy's last opponent to become the Pirate King, but the Final War will be after Luffy has become Pirate King (ergo defeated Blackbeard).
Imu is an existence that represents 800 years of tyranny (and all the atrocities and crimes committed therein) by the World Government and is deeply tied to all the biggest mysteries of One Piece:
- The Void Century
- The Ancient Weapons
- They stabbed Shirahoshi's picture
- They may wield Uranus
- Joy Boy
- The Strawhat
- The National Treasure of Mariejoa
- Vivi
- The Ancient Kingdom
- The thing Roger could not fulfill
- The very founding of the World Government
- The Gorosei
Imu is themselves one of said biggest mysteries.
Compared to that, Blackbeard is nothing. He's Luffy's last opponent to become the Pirate King, but the Final War will be after Luffy has become Pirate King (ergo defeated Blackbeard).
My point is, that Blackbeard might as well have a plot against the WG itself. He doesn't simply want to become PK. He wants to bring chaos to the world, being somewhat the successor of Xebec, who wanted to become the King of the world. Being himself a D, being the unique case of having multiple DFs, being interested in history according to the Vivre Card, with Imu holding both Luffy's and Blackbeard's posters along with each other as to indicate he is concerned about both.
Blackbeard is basically the dark Luffy. He ain't just another villain that gets clapped and disappears from history. The built up for that character was too big in itself.
Blackbeard is basically the dark Luffy. He ain't just another villain that gets clapped and disappears from history. The built up for that character was too big in itself.
Per Whitebeard, the final war is after the One Piece has been found.
Your take is contradicted by the manga, lol.
Power has nothing to do with it. As you said yourself, BB doesn't represent 800 years of tyranny and oppression.
Blackbeard:
Blackbeard is just another late game antagonist. He ain't the big bad, folks should get over it and move on.
Your take is contradicted by the manga, lol.
Power has nothing to do with it. As you said yourself, BB doesn't represent 800 years of tyranny and oppression.
Blackbeard:
- Didn't destroy Ohara
- Has no connection to Joy Boy
- Has no connection to Luffy's real dream
- Isn't responsible for mass slavery
- Didn't kill Cobra
- Is not the person Roger was waiting for
Blackbeard is just another late game antagonist. He ain't the big bad, folks should get over it and move on.
That's not evident from Whitebeard's words. He said that some day, there will be a war that will engulf the whole world, further saying that, once the One Piece is found, the world will be shaken to the core. So the chronology here is not clear. Also, it's just peoples assumption that Luffy and Blackbeard will randomly meet in Laugh Tale and fight for the PK throne and after that having to fight the WG. But why is it not a possibility that the final war will overlap with Laugh Tale? Several people, including Law and Kidd, are aiming for Laugh Tale, as Blackbeard is, while the WG and Imu also start taking serious steps. So as Whitebeard predicted, it may just end up in an all encompassing war of all fractions in and outside Laugh Tale.
I always thought that the WG/Marine would be the last enemy. WB said that back in MF (the famous phrase about the final war), Oden FB reiterated the very same concept and now the last chapter has reinforced it again.
So no, I always have the same thought about this matter. Also, if I may add, that situation was plain to see even before Imu.
So no, I always have the same thought about this matter. Also, if I may add, that situation was plain to see even before Imu.
Whitebeard's words strongly suggest otherwise IMO.
Blackbeard will be the big bad of the Raftel saga, but I doubt he has a role to play in the war against the World Government.
The Strawhats vs Blackbeard Pirates can't happen in the Final War either since they need to deal with Navy HQ and the Gorosei.
Again, the Final War will start after the One Piece has been found. After Luffy has defeated Blackbeard.
I think people are elevating Blackbeard to something much bigger than he really is:
No chance in hell, lol. Sakazuki has better chances.
Blackbeard will be the big bad of the Raftel saga, but I doubt he has a role to play in the war against the World Government.
The Strawhats vs Blackbeard Pirates can't happen in the Final War either since they need to deal with Navy HQ and the Gorosei.
Again, the Final War will start after the One Piece has been found. After Luffy has defeated Blackbeard.
I think people are elevating Blackbeard to something much bigger than he really is:
No chance in hell, lol. Sakazuki has better chances.
It's heavily suggested that the final war will be after the One Piece is found.
The rest of your post sounds like premium copium.
The World Government is the big bad, and they've been so since the very beginning of the story.
They are a tyrannical empire that is responsible for 800 years of oppression and suffering. No matter how Oda builds up Blackbeard, he just cannot replace that.
The big mysteries of the story all tie to them in some form:
As for Blackbeard? He goes down in the Raftel saga, before the final war to liberate the world.
Luffy will challenge the World Government as the Pirate King (after having defeated Blackbeard).
The rest of your post sounds like premium copium.
The World Government is the big bad, and they've been so since the very beginning of the story.
They are a tyrannical empire that is responsible for 800 years of oppression and suffering. No matter how Oda builds up Blackbeard, he just cannot replace that.
The big mysteries of the story all tie to them in some form:
- The Void Century
- The Ancient Weapons
- The Ancient Kingdom
- Joy Boy
- The thing Roger could not do
- The promise made to Fishman Island
- Luffy and Roger's dream
- The true history
- The Gorosei
As for Blackbeard? He goes down in the Raftel saga, before the final war to liberate the world.
Luffy will challenge the World Government as the Pirate King (after having defeated Blackbeard).
- The Gorosei may well be Imu's bodyguards, and they seem to be fighters (one has the Shodai Kitetsu — a Supreme Grade sword — and is probably Zoro's opponent)
- Imu may have uber powerful hax or other combat relevant abilities that we have yet to see
- Imu may have other combatant subordinates
Imu not being a traditional fighter doesn't weaken their case as the main antagonist. They are still the embodiment of the World Government and their tyranny.
