My Problem with femminist media types
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It's not my role to summon them here, I'm not here to please women of this server, I've come to counter the sexist on this thread and give a sence of balance. :=)
I've battled with the term my fair share, and even I.. as a man.. have to rely on this sentence today. (and I include myself in it). It feels unfair at first.. even in second and third.. but with time.. you learn to understand the real meaning behind this catch phrase and the real truth behind it.
No I'm not hurt by it, I'm not a woman. But what I feel and sence is sexism and ignorance based on nothing but hatred
I've battled with the term my fair share, and even I.. as a man.. have to rely on this sentence today. (and I include myself in it). It feels unfair at first.. even in second and third.. but with time.. you learn to understand the real meaning behind this catch phrase and the real truth behind it.
No I'm not hurt by it, I'm not a woman. But what I feel and sence is sexism and ignorance based on nothing but hatred
No, it definitely hurt because you are riding with radical feminists. If men are trash, comes from understandable anger, then so can women are trash comes from understandable anger.
Case 1: A woman named X is ill-treated by a man named Y who is sexist, and a bigot. You are saying that X is entitled to say all men are trash.
Case 2: If a man named A is ill-treated by a woman named B, then A saying 'all women are trash' makes him a sexist, bigot.
People are saying this notion is wrong and you say these people have some issues that need to be fixed?
Case 1: A woman named X is ill-treated by a man named Y who is sexist, and a bigot. You are saying that X is entitled to say all men are trash.
Case 2: If a man named A is ill-treated by a woman named B, then A saying 'all women are trash' makes him a sexist, bigot.
People are saying this notion is wrong and you say these people have some issues that need to be fixed?
No, the anger against women is not understandable as it doesn't come from injustice (exception allowed) or factuel evidences of system sexist issue, it comes from sexism drived by a patriarcal society.
Yup
Yup (while I wouldn't says that he is a bigot)
Why ? Because the first one is based on the anger in front of a SYSTEMIC issue, while their is NO systemic issue on the other and the men is just projecting his case on every women.
Yup exaclty. As I explained, I don't feel threatened by the sentence "men are trash". WHy ? I don't feel included in that sentence anymore. i've learned to deconstruct myself on a level where I can safely say: "I won't be a problem for women anymore in anyway".
Can I REbecome "trash"? Of course. That's why this is hard work. I had to relearn a lot about how to evaluate myself and my relationship to women and my sexist bias. This is a daytime job and has to be done everyday.
That's the burden of being born in a sexist society and finally understanding it : once you open your eyes on the problem you are facing.. the world becames a lot harder... but at the same time.. a lot more peaceful..
I feel like you don't know how liberating it is... but I hope you will.
That's why I gave you ressources to understand the problem:
One of which is the video in my signature.
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I actually don't side with Amber. I think she is an abuser too. I'm talking in generality. I choose to side with the victim first. It's a question of balance.
Yup
Yup (while I wouldn't says that he is a bigot)
Why ? Because the first one is based on the anger in front of a SYSTEMIC issue, while their is NO systemic issue on the other and the men is just projecting his case on every women.
Yup exaclty. As I explained, I don't feel threatened by the sentence "men are trash". WHy ? I don't feel included in that sentence anymore. i've learned to deconstruct myself on a level where I can safely say: "I won't be a problem for women anymore in anyway".
Can I REbecome "trash"? Of course. That's why this is hard work. I had to relearn a lot about how to evaluate myself and my relationship to women and my sexist bias. This is a daytime job and has to be done everyday.
That's the burden of being born in a sexist society and finally understanding it : once you open your eyes on the problem you are facing.. the world becames a lot harder... but at the same time.. a lot more peaceful..
I feel like you don't know how liberating it is... but I hope you will.
That's why I gave you ressources to understand the problem:
One of which is the video in my signature.
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I actually don't side with Amber. I think she is an abuser too. I'm talking in generality. I choose to side with the victim first. It's a question of balance.