Powers & Abilities Vista is "Stronger" than Current Zoro

#1
I often see Mihawk downplay on this Forum due to the fact Mihawk couldn't "Get Past" YC5 Vista.
But what if i told you Vista is the third Strongest Swordsman in the Verse.


We all know that the WB Pirate Commanders aren't split by Strength like traditional Crews So for all we Know Vista Could be as strong as Marco if not Stronger
So Vista being YC5 Could actual be YC1

Not to mention Lord Oden Traveled with WBP, The Idea that Vista did not Spar with Oden Seems unlikely Considering Vista is chasing after the WSS Title
With that being said Vista is one of the More Powerful WBP but i know what your thinking "How does this Make Vista >> Current Zoro, Zoro has King of Hell Hed Oneshot Vista...

Ask yourself this...
Is ACOC "Required" to defeat WSS Mihawk

"Vista is a More Skilled Swordsman Than Zoro"
Zoro Fans Dont Kill me Please, im not done

I Know you've all heard this Before "Mihawk is a more Skilled Swordsman Shanks is just Stronger"
I often Roll my Eyes when i hear this, but this does have some truth to it

The Difference between Zoro and Mihawk was both Skill and Strength its no Different Than Mihawk and Vista the only difference is Strength.
The main reason Mihawk get downplayed is because He didn't Overpower Vista. but as we know Vista wasn't going to Allow that with his own sufficient Skill

As we know Mihawk is a Confirmed ACOC User seeing How Zoro's Ambitions with Lead him to Mihawk Door Step.

If the duel between Mihawk and Vista had Continued ACOC would have been Used seeing how the Battle would have Reved up to the point Their Full Strength would have been at the Forefront

Mihawk being the Victor due to his superior Overall Strength

ENTER SHANKS


As stated above Skill and strength are two sides o the Same Coin, i used Vista as an example of some one of sufficient skill capable of going toe to toe with the WSS while not entirely being More Powerful than them but this example can be use to Counter Shanks as being "MORE POWERFUL" This Example would imply Vista is also a Significantly better Swordsman than Shanks as per his Bounty suggests. if you agree with the notion "Mihawk is a better Swordsman/Shanks is stronger (Do what you will with this information)

What does this have to do with Zoro

If Vista is the Skill Component
and Shanks is the Strength Component
with Mihawk is the Fusion of the Two

What will Zoro have to Accomplish to Surpass Both Shanks and Vista
its quite obvious that in order for Zoro to surpass Shanks he'll have to beat Mihawk
But Vista..... Maybe a Direct Comparison of their Skills

or

Shyiru of the Rain Beating Vista Haindly with Zoro Entering the Battle with ACOC being ineffective or a Non Factor in the Battle.
with Zoro coming out on top as
(As skilled as Mihawk or Equals with Mihawk having to Rely on ACOC to best Zoro)

Just some thought i had to get out there
 
#5
Zoro s not a swordsman
Swordsmanship is just one aspect of being a Samurai so you are absolutely correct.
archery (kyudo/kyujutsu)
barbed staff skills (mojiri)
chained sickle throwing (kusarigamajutsu)
dagger throwing (shurikenjutsu)
fencing/swordsmanship (kendo/kenjutsu)
firearms skills (teppo)
horsemanship (bajutsu)
needle spitting (fukumibarijutsu)
polearm skills (naginata jutsu)
rope skills (torite)
short sword skills (tanto)
spying (ninjutsu)
staff skills (bojutsu)
spearmanship (sojutsu)
swimming (suieiijutsu)
sword drawing (iaijutsu)
truncheon skills (jitte)
yawara (judo/jujutsu)
 
#6
Swordsmanship is just one aspect of being a Samurai so you are absolutely correct.
archery (kyudo/kyujutsu)
barbed staff skills (mojiri)
chained sickle throwing (kusarigamajutsu)
dagger throwing (shurikenjutsu)
fencing/swordsmanship (kendo/kenjutsu)
firearms skills (teppo)
horsemanship (bajutsu)
needle spitting (fukumibarijutsu)
polearm skills (naginata jutsu)
rope skills (torite)
short sword skills (tanto)
spying (ninjutsu)
staff skills (bojutsu)
spearmanship (sojutsu)
swimming (suieiijutsu)
sword drawing (iaijutsu)
truncheon skills (jitte)
yawara (judo/jujutsu)
Zoro uses swords for aesthetic
Let s just say they are just haki antenas that can go 5G:myman:
 
#8
Current Zoro murders Vista,so who cares about bounties.Straw hat bounties are being law balled by the WG on purpose.
By using his bounty Im saying hes stronger than zoro currently
Vista is the Gatekeeper as a Great swordsman Before Shank and Mihawk by using ACOC to close the gap that advantage isnt an advantage when a vastly superior opponent in both strength and ability can use it infinitely better

The idea you dont need ACOC to be a top tier can be mitigated With Vista
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Zoro hasnt fought anybody half as good as vista as far as swordsman go since Kaku
 
#9
By using his bounty Im saying hes stronger than zoro currently
Vista is the Gatekeeper as a Great swordsman Before Shank and Mihawk by using ACOC to close the gap that advantage isnt an advantage when a vastly superior opponent in both strength and ability can use it infinitely better

The idea you dont need ACOC to be a top tier can be mitigated With Vista
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Zoro hasnt fought anybody half as good as vista as far as swordsman go since Kaku
Shiryu is the next in line for Zoro.Vista is not an enemy.
 
#12
By using his bounty Im saying hes stronger than zoro currently
Vista is the Gatekeeper as a Great swordsman Before Shank and Mihawk by using ACOC to close the gap that advantage isnt an advantage when a vastly superior opponent in both strength and ability can use it infinitely better

The idea you dont need ACOC to be a top tier can be mitigated With Vista
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Zoro hasnt fought anybody half as good as vista as far as swordsman go since Kaku
No he isn't:saden:
 
#15
I often see Mihawk downplay on this Forum due to the fact Mihawk couldn't "Get Past" YC5 Vista.
But what if i told you Vista is the third Strongest Swordsman in the Verse.


We all know that the WB Pirate Commanders aren't split by Strength like traditional Crews So for all we Know Vista Could be as strong as Marco if not Stronger
So Vista being YC5 Could actual be YC1

Not to mention Lord Oden Traveled with WBP, The Idea that Vista did not Spar with Oden Seems unlikely Considering Vista is chasing after the WSS Title
With that being said Vista is one of the More Powerful WBP but i know what your thinking "How does this Make Vista >> Current Zoro, Zoro has King of Hell Hed Oneshot Vista...

Ask yourself this...
Is ACOC "Required" to defeat WSS Mihawk

"Vista is a More Skilled Swordsman Than Zoro"
Zoro Fans Dont Kill me Please, im not done

I Know you've all heard this Before "Mihawk is a more Skilled Swordsman Shanks is just Stronger"
I often Roll my Eyes when i hear this, but this does have some truth to it

The Difference between Zoro and Mihawk was both Skill and Strength its no Different Than Mihawk and Vista the only difference is Strength.
The main reason Mihawk get downplayed is because He didn't Overpower Vista. but as we know Vista wasn't going to Allow that with his own sufficient Skill

As we know Mihawk is a Confirmed ACOC User seeing How Zoro's Ambitions with Lead him to Mihawk Door Step.

If the duel between Mihawk and Vista had Continued ACOC would have been Used seeing how the Battle would have Reved up to the point Their Full Strength would have been at the Forefront

Mihawk being the Victor due to his superior Overall Strength

ENTER SHANKS


As stated above Skill and strength are two sides o the Same Coin, i used Vista as an example of some one of sufficient skill capable of going toe to toe with the WSS while not entirely being More Powerful than them but this example can be use to Counter Shanks as being "MORE POWERFUL" This Example would imply Vista is also a Significantly better Swordsman than Shanks as per his Bounty suggests. if you agree with the notion "Mihawk is a better Swordsman/Shanks is stronger (Do what you will with this information)

What does this have to do with Zoro

If Vista is the Skill Component
and Shanks is the Strength Component
with Mihawk is the Fusion of the Two

What will Zoro have to Accomplish to Surpass Both Shanks and Vista
its quite obvious that in order for Zoro to surpass Shanks he'll have to beat Mihawk
But Vista..... Maybe a Direct Comparison of their Skills

or

Shyiru of the Rain Beating Vista Haindly with Zoro Entering the Battle with ACOC being ineffective or a Non Factor in the Battle.
with Zoro coming out on top as
(As skilled as Mihawk or Equals with Mihawk having to Rely on ACOC to best Zoro)

Just some thought i had to get out there
Izou is 16th commander but is a skilled armament haki user, he has high level haki.

Oden was the 2nd commander and even though he was stronger than Marco.
It makes you think who was the previous 2nd commander.

Ace had conquerors haki and could one day surpass Marco and make Whitebeard the pirate king. He’d still be second commander.

Vista had to play a role like Marco somehow.
 
#19
I often see Mihawk downplay on this Forum due to the fact Mihawk couldn't "Get Past" YC5 Vista.
But what if i told you Vista is the third Strongest Swordsman in the Verse.


We all know that the WB Pirate Commanders aren't split by Strength like traditional Crews So for all we Know Vista Could be as strong as Marco if not Stronger
So Vista being YC5 Could actual be YC1

Not to mention Lord Oden Traveled with WBP, The Idea that Vista did not Spar with Oden Seems unlikely Considering Vista is chasing after the WSS Title
With that being said Vista is one of the More Powerful WBP but i know what your thinking "How does this Make Vista >> Current Zoro, Zoro has King of Hell Hed Oneshot Vista...

Ask yourself this...
Is ACOC "Required" to defeat WSS Mihawk

"Vista is a More Skilled Swordsman Than Zoro"
Zoro Fans Dont Kill me Please, im not done

I Know you've all heard this Before "Mihawk is a more Skilled Swordsman Shanks is just Stronger"
I often Roll my Eyes when i hear this, but this does have some truth to it

The Difference between Zoro and Mihawk was both Skill and Strength its no Different Than Mihawk and Vista the only difference is Strength.
The main reason Mihawk get downplayed is because He didn't Overpower Vista. but as we know Vista wasn't going to Allow that with his own sufficient Skill

As we know Mihawk is a Confirmed ACOC User seeing How Zoro's Ambitions with Lead him to Mihawk Door Step.

If the duel between Mihawk and Vista had Continued ACOC would have been Used seeing how the Battle would have Reved up to the point Their Full Strength would have been at the Forefront

Mihawk being the Victor due to his superior Overall Strength

ENTER SHANKS


As stated above Skill and strength are two sides o the Same Coin, i used Vista as an example of some one of sufficient skill capable of going toe to toe with the WSS while not entirely being More Powerful than them but this example can be use to Counter Shanks as being "MORE POWERFUL" This Example would imply Vista is also a Significantly better Swordsman than Shanks as per his Bounty suggests. if you agree with the notion "Mihawk is a better Swordsman/Shanks is stronger (Do what you will with this information)

What does this have to do with Zoro

If Vista is the Skill Component
and Shanks is the Strength Component
with Mihawk is the Fusion of the Two

What will Zoro have to Accomplish to Surpass Both Shanks and Vista
its quite obvious that in order for Zoro to surpass Shanks he'll have to beat Mihawk
But Vista..... Maybe a Direct Comparison of their Skills

or

Shyiru of the Rain Beating Vista Haindly with Zoro Entering the Battle with ACOC being ineffective or a Non Factor in the Battle.
with Zoro coming out on top as
(As skilled as Mihawk or Equals with Mihawk having to Rely on ACOC to best Zoro)

Just some thought i had to get out there
All this shows is Vista might be the 2nd most skilled or even most skilled swordsman in the series. Purely in skill he is great which is why Mihawk didn't mind wasting his time dueling him. However, his haki is nothing special from what we have seen and haki is everything in this series.

Zoro with Adcoc would defeat Vista no problem.
 
#20
All this shows is Vista might be the 2nd most skilled or even most skilled swordsman in the series. Purely in skill he is great which is why Mihawk didn't mind wasting his time dueling him. However, his haki is nothing special from what we have seen and haki is everything in this series.

Zoro with Adcoc would defeat Vista no problem.
Ageed what im saying is How can someone that requires ACOC to beat is labeled as YC5/YC3
 
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