Chapter Discussion ONE PIECE CHAPTER 978: Introducing the Tobi Roppo

[Gran D. Master]

Shouldn't Apoo be stronger than someone like Orochi? So does this prove Kid > Zoro?

 

[RayanOO]

Solid chapter.

The pacing was good, same for the art. Like Ussop casual shooting. And the comedy was nice too when Chopper/Ussop said that they needed to sink the Sunny too.

Overall I like Flying 6 design : Maria ! Maria ! Maria !
But Who's Who is cool too.

And Queen was the best as usual.

The Pleasures seem to be on a higher rank than the waiters but in fact they are weaker : they ate a smiles but he didn't work so they don't have any advantages or power ups but have new drawbacks : can't swin and weaker with sea stones.

 

[Gran D. Master]

Vergo was not Caeser's subordinate.

Done.

Who's subordinate was he then?

 

[Finalbeta]

Shouldn't Apoo be stronger than someone like Orochi? So does this prove Kid > Zoro?

Orochi and Zoro stand on two different dimensions

 

[Kejon]

Also, Apoo is the DJ lmao. I knew it.

 

[Buusatan94]

The Pleasures seem to be on a higher rank than the waiters but in fact they are weaker : they ate a smiles but he didn't work so they don't have any advantages or power ups but have new drawbacks : can't swin and weaker with sea stones.

In a naval battle they would definitively be screwed if their ships are sunk, the Waiters at least can swim.

 

[Cinera]

But logically the Numbers > The tobbi roppo

The Tobi Roppo would be the ones to replace Queen not any of the numbers though? Doesn't that suggest that the Tobi Roppo are clearly next in the hierarchy after the All Stars?

So where does it say page one and ulti are siblings

never, it just the usual, spoiler provider speculating and we take it as fact

It doesn't appear to be stated outright, but it is pretty heavily suggested though.


Sasaki insults Page One:

Ulti quickly rises to his defense and tells him that "she'll tear him apart":

Page One tells her to knock it off:

Who's who calls them brats and tells them to shut up.

Their banter seems like typical sibling banter to me, and the way they are called "brats" together is suggestive I think. Perhaps the siblinghood is implied in the raws. We'll see when better translations come out I guess.

 

[critical mindset]

Zoro beat the second strongest of the arc villain.

So Zoro will beat King. Zoro will not beat Big mom or Smoothie or whoever. Kaido is the arc villain. His second is king. Same as Caeser is the arc villain and his second was Monet

So we are in agreement.

Zoro beat the third strongest villain and would get dog-eared by the strongest

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Who's subordinate was he then?

You know who.

At no point does Caeser tell him to do something and he does it.

That's how subordinates work

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Supreme Commander

• Kaido

Executives

• Lead Performer King
• Lead Performer Queen
• Lead Performer Jack
• "Ten"
• "Nine"
• "Eight"
• "Seven"
• "Six"
• "Five"
• "Four"
• "Three"
• "Two"
• " Ace" (Kaido's son?)

Headliners

• Tobi Roppo Uruti + Crew
• Tobi Roppo Page One + Crew
• Tobi Roppo Foods Poo + Crew
• Tobi Roppo Black Maria + Crew
• Tobi Roppo Sasaki + Crew
• Tobi Roppo X Drake + Drake Pirates
• Babanuki + Crew
• Dobon + Crew
• Daifugo + Crew
• Solitaire + Crew
• Holdem + Crew
• Speed + Crew
• Sheepshead + Crew
• Ginrummy + Crew
• Basil Hawkins + Hawkins Pirates
• Scratchmen Apoo + On-Air Pirates

Fodder

• Gifters
• Pleasures
• Waiters

This doesn't mean the Tobi Roppo and this "Ace" are weaker than the Numbers.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Zoro beat the third strongest villain and would get dog-eared by the strongest

Vergo is not the arc villain. Same as big mom is not the wano arc villain

 

[Buusatan94]

Even if they are likely not blod-related I still think that there is a true bond, at least close to adopted siblings, between Page One and Ulti given how protective she is of him and her nickname of him.

 

[Hiragaro]

So we got the All Stars and the Jokesters

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

• "Ten"
• "Nine"
• "Eight"
• "Seven"
• "Six"
• "Five"
• "Four"
• "Three"
• "Two"
• " Ace" (Kaido's son?)

These do not exist

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

These do not exist

We'll wait and see what these Numbers are first, and then my understanding of the hierarchy will change.

 

[Finalbeta]

Even if they are likely not blod-related I still think that there is a true bond, at least close to adopted siblings, between Page One and Ulti given how protective she is of him and her nickname of him.

I wanna unravel the mysteries upon Ulti's reasons to be so rude haha

 

[kurwa]

Do you thinks these guys are reasonable?

It was obvious Killer was nerfed:
Always laughing
Didn't have his Gauntlet
Didnt use any named attacks or haki

Zoro was matched by Nerfed Killer fir more than 30 min (they fought till it snowed) ... he only won coz Kamazou lost one weapon and guru interference

Without interference:
2 sword Zoro = Kamazou Killer
3 sword Zoro > Kamazou killer
Santoryou Zoro >~ Killer > Kamazou Killer ~ 2 sword Zoro

I think Killer was nerfed waaay more than Zolo was

not only was he laughing, which we know he hates so that must be distracting for him.
but
His Scythes were almost complete opposite of his main weapons style.

Scythes are long range and don't spin and need to be held

His main weapons are close range, spin and don't need to be held.

This means he had to change his fighting style completely

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Supreme Commander

• Kaido

Executives

• Lead Performer King
• Lead Performer Queen
• Lead Performer Jack
• "Ten"
• "Nine"
• "Eight"
• "Seven"
• "Six"
• "Five"
• "Four"
• "Three"
• "Two"
• " Ace" (Kaido's son?)

Headliners

• Tobi Roppo Uruti + Crew
• Tobi Roppo Page One + Crew
• Tobi Roppo Foods Poo + Crew
• Tobi Roppo Black Maria + Crew
• Tobi Roppo Sasaki + Crew
• Tobi Roppo X Drake + Drake Pirates
• Babanuki + Crew
• Dobon + Crew
• Daifugo + Crew
• Solitaire + Crew
• Holdem + Crew
• Speed + Crew
• Sheepshead + Crew
• Ginrummy + Crew
• Basil Hawkins + Hawkins Pirates
• Scratchmen Apoo + On-Air Pirates

Fodder

• Gifters
• Pleasures
• Waiters

This doesn't mean the Tobi Roppo and this "Ace" are weaker than the Numbers.

Ace cant be weaker than King

 

[Gran D. Master]

You know who.

Both Vergo and Monet were members of Doffy's crew so he was their real boss. So if Vergo wasn't actually Caeser's subordinate because he worked for Doffy, then guess what, technically Monet wasn't his subordinate either because who she really worked for was Doffy

 

[Rivaille]

@Cinera maybe the numbers are set to replace King
But I admit that it is weird