General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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Okay a lot of speculation has been made about gin which made me think about other returning characters and expansion of the grand fleet. Having thought about it if Gin and Kreig were to be reintroduced it would have been back in Impel Down but we know that Impel down is going to be made part of the story again at some point as a guaranteed grand fleet member is basically in there(Mr 2). On top of this the potential characters who are currently there or will be there after Wano is insane.
People we know are there:
Bon Clay
Doflamingo
Magellan
Hannyabal
An assassin
All the Impel down staff
People potentially there and Oda could have there:
Sabo
Vivi
Jewelry Bonney
Hancock and sisters.
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Weevil mrs bakkin
Brown beard
Other prisoners from punk hazard
The pirates from saboady archipelago who wanted to join luffy
Pirates freed in fishman island caught by smoker
Potentially whitebeard pirates or pirates associated with other crews luffy has interacted with (monkey alliance in jaya, baroque works, sun pirates, arlong pirates, kuro, buggy, kreig, foxy,)
Also potentially all of the alive doflamingo family members.
Also if Ceasar is coming back this will be where.
Potentially any warlord who got caught could end up there in level 6.
So could parallel the previous break out of luffy with two warlords.
I think that the grand fleet will have an Okama crew, a amazon lily as well as a prisoner crew.
At the same time it potentially allows the reintroduction of other pirates encountered throughout the series such as foxy, gin etc...
So all in all I think there's gonna be another breakout and more people are gonna join the grand fleet.
It also allows luffy to go back and beat one of the few villains he wasn't able to beat previously and was responsible for Ace leaving impel Down. Also we have people with abilities to fight Magellan such as Bartolomeo.
So I think we are gonna return at some point to impel down and gonna arm up similar to last time.
People we know are there:
Bon Clay
Doflamingo
Magellan
Hannyabal
An assassin
All the Impel down staff
People potentially there and Oda could have there:
Sabo
Vivi
Jewelry Bonney
Hancock and sisters.
Buggy mr 3 alvida mohji ritchie cabaji
Weevil mrs bakkin
Brown beard
Other prisoners from punk hazard
The pirates from saboady archipelago who wanted to join luffy
Pirates freed in fishman island caught by smoker
Potentially whitebeard pirates or pirates associated with other crews luffy has interacted with (monkey alliance in jaya, baroque works, sun pirates, arlong pirates, kuro, buggy, kreig, foxy,)
Also potentially all of the alive doflamingo family members.
Also if Ceasar is coming back this will be where.
Potentially any warlord who got caught could end up there in level 6.
So could parallel the previous break out of luffy with two warlords.
I think that the grand fleet will have an Okama crew, a amazon lily as well as a prisoner crew.
At the same time it potentially allows the reintroduction of other pirates encountered throughout the series such as foxy, gin etc...
So all in all I think there's gonna be another breakout and more people are gonna join the grand fleet.
It also allows luffy to go back and beat one of the few villains he wasn't able to beat previously and was responsible for Ace leaving impel Down. Also we have people with abilities to fight Magellan such as Bartolomeo.
So I think we are gonna return at some point to impel down and gonna arm up similar to last time.
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In my opinion the last 3 members will be Carrot and Momonosuke who will both join after Wano, Momo will be an adult both mentally and physically due to the effects of the Toki fruit wherein if certain conditions are met the ones sent to the future will have the age, experience and skills they would've otherwise gotten had they not travelled to the future. And the 13th member will be a SWORD who ate the Nikyu-Nikyu fruit because in my opinion, the one that died in the reverie wasn't just Cobra but also Kuma
So whats your guys opinion on the current members, do you see Oda expanding the stories of some Strawhats? From what we know about them we can divide them into groups.
-those we know all about, for example Usopp. We know hes from Syrup, we know his parents/origin, we know he spent his life in his home village before Luffy recruited him, we know he left the crew after a disagreement about the Going Merry, a ship his friend gifted them, we know he got accepted back after apologizing, we know he got separated from the crew for 2 years, we know they reunited and that hes currently sailing with them. So thats pretty much his whole life summed up. Same for Chopper, Drum > parents/origin > recruited > separated for 2 years > reunited and currently with the crew. No plot twists, everything is clear.
-those we know almost all about, but not quite. Nami was found by Bellemere as a baby, lived with her in Cocoyashi village, Arlong came, she became his nakama, she met Luffy, Luffy saved her, she joined the crew, they got separated for 2 years, reunited and are sailing together. So we know all about her, except, parents/origin/family name. Zoro is the same, we know his full name but we have no idea about his origin. Franky or Cutty Flam as well, orphan that Tom took in. Sanji used to be like that but we found out about him last arc. And with Luffy while we actually know his father and grandfather, there is still no mother and her family and origin. With Robin its the other way around, we know the mother but no father is mentioned.
-those we know very little about. We see Jinbe the earliest as a soldier in Neptunes army, we know hes from Fishman District like Arlong and Tiger, but we dont know his parents. And no family name either, though with merfolk its likely no one has it, so maybe with him its not that important. But its the same with Brook, no history, parents, origin other than his days with Laboon and the Rumbar Pirates.
So will Oda start giving us more on Luffy, Zoro, Nami, Robin, Franky, Brook, Jinbe, or rather, will he have enough time to do both this and add new crewmembers?
-those we know all about, for example Usopp. We know hes from Syrup, we know his parents/origin, we know he spent his life in his home village before Luffy recruited him, we know he left the crew after a disagreement about the Going Merry, a ship his friend gifted them, we know he got accepted back after apologizing, we know he got separated from the crew for 2 years, we know they reunited and that hes currently sailing with them. So thats pretty much his whole life summed up. Same for Chopper, Drum > parents/origin > recruited > separated for 2 years > reunited and currently with the crew. No plot twists, everything is clear.
-those we know almost all about, but not quite. Nami was found by Bellemere as a baby, lived with her in Cocoyashi village, Arlong came, she became his nakama, she met Luffy, Luffy saved her, she joined the crew, they got separated for 2 years, reunited and are sailing together. So we know all about her, except, parents/origin/family name. Zoro is the same, we know his full name but we have no idea about his origin. Franky or Cutty Flam as well, orphan that Tom took in. Sanji used to be like that but we found out about him last arc. And with Luffy while we actually know his father and grandfather, there is still no mother and her family and origin. With Robin its the other way around, we know the mother but no father is mentioned.
-those we know very little about. We see Jinbe the earliest as a soldier in Neptunes army, we know hes from Fishman District like Arlong and Tiger, but we dont know his parents. And no family name either, though with merfolk its likely no one has it, so maybe with him its not that important. But its the same with Brook, no history, parents, origin other than his days with Laboon and the Rumbar Pirates.
So will Oda start giving us more on Luffy, Zoro, Nami, Robin, Franky, Brook, Jinbe, or rather, will he have enough time to do both this and add new crewmembers?
Luffy and zoro are a given. Usopp will get his time with his father and I believe that yasopp will die, which will cause usopp to grow up and become a really fearless warrior of the sea. So he will get his time too.
Nami, franky and robin depends on oda.
Brook, chopper, jinbei and sanji don't have anything "great" to reveal anymore.
At most, little plotlines like sanji and gin reunion but that's it.
As for new members, I am highly sure.
4+4+4 for each sea.
A woman is a given, it depends on oda. Could be hancock, vivi or hiyori. Depends on oda.
Hancock needing luffy protection because of marines + her goal would be the abolishment of the tenryubitos.
Vivi exactly the same, if cobra died because of his questions and alabasta has fallen.
Hiyori assisting joyboy 2.0 aka luffy and fullfilling the mission of toki, who actively searched for him, by jumping to the future (but she found something more "valuable" and abandoned her mission, meaning her husband, oden), which would be getting rid of the tenryubitos (at least, part of it).
So it depends on oda + they would be characters already established, characters whom we and the strawhats know really well.
Carrot is highly unlikely, since she has nothing ro offer as a character besides than wanting to have adventures, which would make her unfit to the crew, since everyone has a tragic past + a goal etc.
There could be otama but I believe luffy will make the same promise like ace, so she will stay at wano.
Okiku has gotten quite a few chapters together woth zoro and luffy but so far he/she is quite unlikely.
So I believe, it would be either hancock, vivi or hiyori.
As for male characters, somehow I believe pedro is alive and that he will join luffy, which was hinted, when roger said in the flashback to him: "your time will come". Besides pedro has to see the dawn of the world 😁
If he is dead, than I don't think anyone of the minks will join.
Momo will stay for sure in wano and I'm absolutely no fan of the theory that he will get old or something like that. Sorry but that would be just an asspull from oda.
I don't see any of the scabbards joining the strawhats either.
Caesar clown aka gangster gastino could be possible but unlikely at this point.
My gut says weevil could be a straw hat. Yes he is hyped but I don't believe he is stronger than a yc2/3, so after wano he should be around the level of zoro/sanji/jinbei and the only one he has is bakkin, so when he understands that he was always used, he has no one anymore. With his simple mind, he could just follow "his aniki luffy". Lol. But probably not 😁
And maybe pudding, if she came to wano but unlikely at this point.
Aside from that, there aren't any other candidates right know, so we will see.
Nami, franky and robin depends on oda.
Brook, chopper, jinbei and sanji don't have anything "great" to reveal anymore.
At most, little plotlines like sanji and gin reunion but that's it.
As for new members, I am highly sure.
4+4+4 for each sea.
A woman is a given, it depends on oda. Could be hancock, vivi or hiyori. Depends on oda.
Hancock needing luffy protection because of marines + her goal would be the abolishment of the tenryubitos.
Vivi exactly the same, if cobra died because of his questions and alabasta has fallen.
Hiyori assisting joyboy 2.0 aka luffy and fullfilling the mission of toki, who actively searched for him, by jumping to the future (but she found something more "valuable" and abandoned her mission, meaning her husband, oden), which would be getting rid of the tenryubitos (at least, part of it).
So it depends on oda + they would be characters already established, characters whom we and the strawhats know really well.
Carrot is highly unlikely, since she has nothing ro offer as a character besides than wanting to have adventures, which would make her unfit to the crew, since everyone has a tragic past + a goal etc.
There could be otama but I believe luffy will make the same promise like ace, so she will stay at wano.
Okiku has gotten quite a few chapters together woth zoro and luffy but so far he/she is quite unlikely.
So I believe, it would be either hancock, vivi or hiyori.
As for male characters, somehow I believe pedro is alive and that he will join luffy, which was hinted, when roger said in the flashback to him: "your time will come". Besides pedro has to see the dawn of the world 😁
If he is dead, than I don't think anyone of the minks will join.
Momo will stay for sure in wano and I'm absolutely no fan of the theory that he will get old or something like that. Sorry but that would be just an asspull from oda.
I don't see any of the scabbards joining the strawhats either.
Caesar clown aka gangster gastino could be possible but unlikely at this point.
My gut says weevil could be a straw hat. Yes he is hyped but I don't believe he is stronger than a yc2/3, so after wano he should be around the level of zoro/sanji/jinbei and the only one he has is bakkin, so when he understands that he was always used, he has no one anymore. With his simple mind, he could just follow "his aniki luffy". Lol. But probably not 😁
And maybe pudding, if she came to wano but unlikely at this point.
Aside from that, there aren't any other candidates right know, so we will see.
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It still proves nothing, but in chapter 978 (pictures are in spoiler in case you didn't get to read the chapter yet, don't open them randomly!), Oda again distinguishes Carrot from every other Minks :
But for me, there is at least some hint of something. In both those pages, there is a shot of random Minks and Carrot is not with them but the Strawhats. Granted, in the second picture, she is almost entirely hidden by Nami's speech bubble, but still, she is there and recognizable easily.
Again, it may means nothing, but visually speaking at least, Oda is separating them from the other minks, which is intruiguing, since she could have easily fitted with the others.
But for me, there is at least some hint of something. In both those pages, there is a shot of random Minks and Carrot is not with them but the Strawhats. Granted, in the second picture, she is almost entirely hidden by Nami's speech bubble, but still, she is there and recognizable easily.
Again, it may means nothing, but visually speaking at least, Oda is separating them from the other minks, which is intruiguing, since she could have easily fitted with the others.
Pirate King
World's Strongest Swordsman
Navigating prodigy
Sniper King
Best Chef
Doctor who founded the universal cure
Archaeologist who learned the true history of the world
Shipwright who built the ship that will sail around the world
Musician who's an international bestselling phenomena
Helmsman who can sail a ship like a surfboard inside a tsunami
Lookout who doesn't even do her job because anyone with a pair of binocolours can do it, and the sniper can accomplish something by doing it unlike the supposed lookout.
One of these is not like the other.
So what roles are there still needed for the Strawhats crew? I didnt think we needed a helmsman until Jinbe has shown how great one can be, as meaningless as unneeded as a lookout may seem right now, we might see his/her value when the situation calls for it. Anything else? I cant think of any role that is relevant to the story.
Lol, seems like people have forgotten that the pre timeskip straw hats were capable of sailing on currents as crazy as this without their favourite whale shark being present.
It's almost as if anyone strong enough and half decent can do the same job totally fine on even some of the craziest currents around.
Oda had Jinbe sail a Marine battleship from Impel Down to Marineford. Luffy literally noted that Jinbe was a helmsman, and zero attention was brought to his abilities. He was treated no different from every regular scrub at the wheel. That was until he had his big shine in a very obvious "here is a helmsman moment", which was over 300 chapters later...
Carrot can EASILY still be the lookout. And other people doing it doesn't disqualify her from having her shine moment that puts them all to shame. Some have even speculated gags like her eating a carrot and suddenly developing super long range vision. It's a nonsensical gag, but the perfect sort of thing that would fly in a series like OP.
Meanwhile, as mentioned by others we see a very clear divide between the fodder minks, fodder samurai and the straw hats. Funny to see which group Carrot is consistently a part of. How's she gonna become a "background mink", if she ain't even with the minks??
It's almost as if anyone strong enough and half decent can do the same job totally fine on even some of the craziest currents around.
Oda had Jinbe sail a Marine battleship from Impel Down to Marineford. Luffy literally noted that Jinbe was a helmsman, and zero attention was brought to his abilities. He was treated no different from every regular scrub at the wheel. That was until he had his big shine in a very obvious "here is a helmsman moment", which was over 300 chapters later...
Carrot can EASILY still be the lookout. And other people doing it doesn't disqualify her from having her shine moment that puts them all to shame. Some have even speculated gags like her eating a carrot and suddenly developing super long range vision. It's a nonsensical gag, but the perfect sort of thing that would fly in a series like OP.
Meanwhile, as mentioned by others we see a very clear divide between the fodder minks, fodder samurai and the straw hats. Funny to see which group Carrot is consistently a part of. How's she gonna become a "background mink", if she ain't even with the minks??
Lol, seems like people have forgotten that the pre timeskip straw hats were capable of sailing on currents as crazy as this without their favourite whale shark being present.
It's almost as if anyone strong enough and half decent can do the same job totally fine on even some of the craziest currents around.
Oda had Jinbe sail a Marine battleship from Impel Down to Marineford. Luffy literally noted that Jinbe was a helmsman, and zero attention was brought to his abilities. He was treated no different from every regular scrub at the wheel. That was until he had his big shine in a very obvious "here is a helmsman moment", which was over 300 chapters later...
Carrot can EASILY still be the lookout. And other people doing it doesn't disqualify her from having her shine moment that puts them all to shame. Some have even speculated gags like her eating a carrot and suddenly developing super long range vision. It's a nonsensical gag, but the perfect sort of thing that would fly in a series like OP.
Meanwhile, as mentioned by others we see a very clear divide between the fodder minks, fodder samurai and the straw hats. Funny to see which group Carrot is consistently a part of. How's she gonna become a "background mink", if she ain't even with the minks??
It's almost as if anyone strong enough and half decent can do the same job totally fine on even some of the craziest currents around.
Oda had Jinbe sail a Marine battleship from Impel Down to Marineford. Luffy literally noted that Jinbe was a helmsman, and zero attention was brought to his abilities. He was treated no different from every regular scrub at the wheel. That was until he had his big shine in a very obvious "here is a helmsman moment", which was over 300 chapters later...
Carrot can EASILY still be the lookout. And other people doing it doesn't disqualify her from having her shine moment that puts them all to shame. Some have even speculated gags like her eating a carrot and suddenly developing super long range vision. It's a nonsensical gag, but the perfect sort of thing that would fly in a series like OP.
Meanwhile, as mentioned by others we see a very clear divide between the fodder minks, fodder samurai and the straw hats. Funny to see which group Carrot is consistently a part of. How's she gonna become a "background mink", if she ain't even with the minks??
The only thing that is genuinely foreshadowed for the crew is that Luffy really wants a gigantic bronze statue.
The second Jinbei shows up on the Sunny he sails through a Tsunami, is said to be a glorious helmsman and nobody else takes over.
Carrot's lookout ability has never been commented on, isn't special and is being done by other characters while she's actually on the ship doing nothing.
And please, Carrot is still very much a background Mink. She's done fuck all in eighty chapters now.
Kin'emon has once again shown he's vastly more important as a character. Here, he shows an actually unique ability, has actual dialogue about his role, panels focused on him. Carrot floats around in the background twice, with one panel being her behind a friggin speech bubble, and has Ussop easily accomplish her supposed unique trait. And people think that somehow is setting her up to join the crew.
Lol, seems like people have forgotten that the pre timeskip straw hats were capable of sailing on currents as crazy as this without their favourite whale shark being present.
It's almost as if anyone strong enough and half decent can do the same job totally fine on even some of the craziest currents around.
Oda had Jinbe sail a Marine battleship from Impel Down to Marineford. Luffy literally noted that Jinbe was a helmsman, and zero attention was brought to his abilities. He was treated no different from every regular scrub at the wheel. That was until he had his big shine in a very obvious "here is a helmsman moment", which was over 300 chapters later...
Carrot can EASILY still be the lookout. And other people doing it doesn't disqualify her from having her shine moment that puts them all to shame. Some have even speculated gags like her eating a carrot and suddenly developing super long range vision. It's a nonsensical gag, but the perfect sort of thing that would fly in a series like OP.
Meanwhile, as mentioned by others we see a very clear divide between the fodder minks, fodder samurai and the straw hats. Funny to see which group Carrot is consistently a part of. How's she gonna become a "background mink", if she ain't even with the minks??
It's almost as if anyone strong enough and half decent can do the same job totally fine on even some of the craziest currents around.
Oda had Jinbe sail a Marine battleship from Impel Down to Marineford. Luffy literally noted that Jinbe was a helmsman, and zero attention was brought to his abilities. He was treated no different from every regular scrub at the wheel. That was until he had his big shine in a very obvious "here is a helmsman moment", which was over 300 chapters later...
Carrot can EASILY still be the lookout. And other people doing it doesn't disqualify her from having her shine moment that puts them all to shame. Some have even speculated gags like her eating a carrot and suddenly developing super long range vision. It's a nonsensical gag, but the perfect sort of thing that would fly in a series like OP.
Meanwhile, as mentioned by others we see a very clear divide between the fodder minks, fodder samurai and the straw hats. Funny to see which group Carrot is consistently a part of. How's she gonna become a "background mink", if she ain't even with the minks??
Carrot's lookout ability has never been commented on, isn't special and is being done by other characters while she's actually on the ship doing nothing.
And please, Carrot is still very much a background Mink. She's done fuck all in eighty chapters now.
Kin'emon has once again shown he's vastly more important as a character. Here, he shows an actually unique ability, has actual dialogue about his role, panels focused on him. Carrot floats around in the background twice, with one panel being her behind a friggin speech bubble, and has Ussop easily accomplish her supposed unique trait. And people think that somehow is setting her up to join the crew.
Carrot has countless interactions with the crew, meaningful or funny gags. In this chapter no straw hat did anything of note other than Usopp so that's a really moot point.
The point is that it's confirmed that Carrot is with the straw hats for this raid. Just to remind you:
They've split into 4 groups.
The fodder samurai and the minks faction are taking the left and right wings (they all have to enter from the same place which is what we saw this chapter), the scabbards faction are using the submarine to go from behind, and the straw hat faction are charging right through.
Carrot is literally on the sunny right now prepared to go with the straw hat group and charge the front, whilst the minks and fodder samurai take the wings.
She's clearly been separated from them. This is the moment people were expecting her to just say hi to Jinbe and then dip back to the minks, but that didn't happen. Oda showed twice this chapter that she's still with them. And if she's still with the main crew during their raid, then you can bet your ass she's gonna get some good showings and attention in the time to come as she, alongside the straw hats launches their frontal assault.
The point is that it's confirmed that Carrot is with the straw hats for this raid. Just to remind you:
They've split into 4 groups.
The fodder samurai and the minks faction are taking the left and right wings (they all have to enter from the same place which is what we saw this chapter), the scabbards faction are using the submarine to go from behind, and the straw hat faction are charging right through.
Carrot is literally on the sunny right now prepared to go with the straw hat group and charge the front, whilst the minks and fodder samurai take the wings.
She's clearly been separated from them. This is the moment people were expecting her to just say hi to Jinbe and then dip back to the minks, but that didn't happen. Oda showed twice this chapter that she's still with them. And if she's still with the main crew during their raid, then you can bet your ass she's gonna get some good showings and attention in the time to come as she, alongside the straw hats launches their frontal assault.
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