General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Luffy is the mc]

The thing is, BB´s statement should be motivated by a new development in the world, and as far as we know, there are only two, Sabo/Revos and Shichibukai.
And considering Shichibukai are only just getting hunted, while Sabo seems to have been captured, it would make sense, even if it sucks. Can´t see what any of the Shichibukai might have that he wants.

People are also thinking about the Ancient weapon. The one in Alabasta.
I don't think Blackbeard would clash with the Marines to have the mera mera no mi. So I doubt that it's related to sabo.

Given the fact that luffy will have a big increase in bounty and will probably surpass blackbeard's current one, blackbeard has to do something big to stay ahead. Mera mera no mi isn't enough for that, ancient weapon might be the answer.

 

[Ravagerblade]

If that´s what you got from all that, you are reading the series wrong.

No You are wrong; You don't even understand it.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

People are also thinking about the Ancient weapon. The one in Alabasta.
I don't think Blackbeard would clash with the Marines to have the mera mera no mi. So I doubt that it's related to sabo.

Given the fact that luffy will have a big increase in bounty and will probably surpass blackbeard's current one, blackbeard has to do something big to stay ahead. Mera mera no mi isn't enough for that, ancient weapon might be the answer.

Yeah but that was not a new development.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Not sure if BB ever referred to a warlord when he said he want that thing before marines... BB used the words “it” so doesn’t seem to be a person... a DF? Some kind of weapon?

I've been saying it for a while, its Pluton.

Garp told Neptune that the Marines are in disarray over something, and it has to do with Alabasta. Alabasta had the poneglyph revealing Pluton's location. Cobra was going to ask about this Poneglyph to the Gorosei. Something had happened, and information leaked.

Blackbeard specifically says he "won't let the Marines have it".


Put 2 and 2 together. Blackbeard is after something the Marines are also after, which is related to Alabasta. So:

-It's not Sabo's fruit. They wouldn't even know where to look. Plus, Oda isn't killing Sabo lol

- It's not a shichibukai, they have nothing to do with Alabasta


Aka, the only thing it can realistically be is Pluton's location

The thing is, BB´s statement should be motivated by a new development in the world, and as far as we know, there are only two, Sabo/Revos and Shichibukai.
And considering Shichibukai are only just getting hunted, while Sabo seems to have been captured, it would make sense, even if it sucks. Can´t see what any of the Shichibukai might have that he wants.

Read the above, it has nothing to do with Sabo or the Shichibukai. It HAS to do with Alabasta.

Why would the entire Marine force need to deal with Shichibukai or Sabo? Pluton is an island ending ship. If its information got leaked, they have to counteract every single crazy pirate out there gunning for it. It's why they can't go to Wano, it's why Big Mom/Kaido aren't even their top priority. Blackbeard's ENTIRE crew is going after it. Neither the Shichibukai or Sabo have anything to do with that

Yeah but that was not a new development.

If its location was leaked, then yes it is a new world development. The original Pluton is still out there, its location was hidden with the Alabasta Poneglyph. Franky had the blueprints to make a 2nd one in case the first was found and ended up in the wrong hands. He destroyed those blueprints, the original is still in a hidden location.


I'm telling you guys, it's 100% Pluton. I will make a thread to prove it later.

 

[TEACH D TEACH]

The thing that has me curious is, how many people know of the existence of Alabastas poneglyph and how did Crocodile and Robin find out of its existence? I'm sure Alabastas royalty went out of their way to hide it's existence from the world, because they were technically one of the 20 allied kingdoms, so I imagine this is top secret info. In that case, would Cobra be naive enough to mention it to the gorosei?

Either way, Plutons location should only be known to Robin, as she is the only living person who read that poneglyph, so I wonder if it's actually Pluton, the poneglyph or something else everyone is after. I bet there is another twist to this

 

[Paperchampion23]

The thing that has me curious is, how many people know of the existence of Alabastas poneglyph and how did Crocodile and Robin find out of its existence? I'm sure Alabastas royalty went out of their way to hide it's existence from the world, because they were technically one of the 20 allied kingdoms, so I imagine this is top secret info. In that case, would be naive enough to mention it to the gorosei?

Either way, Plutons location should only be known to Robin, as she is the only living person who read that poneglyph, so I wonder if it's actually Pluton, the poneglyph or something else everyone is after. I bet there is another twist to this

There is certainly more to it for sure, but I can't personally see it being anything else considering we know that:

- It is related to Alabasta
- Causing the Marines to use their entire force (meaning it's a world wide issue, likely to counteract a pirate response, considering Koby's comments in the matter)
- Causing Blackbeard to mobilize his crew and contest with the marines.


Unless its some other force related to Alabasta, I'm not sure what else it would even be. The Marines can't even lend strength to Wano currently, indicating they are more scared of this thing than Kaido and Big Mom teaming up.

Crazy right?

 

[TEACH D TEACH]

There is certainly more to it for sure, but I can't personally see it being anything else considering we know that:

- It is related to Alabasta
- Causing the Marines to use their entire force (meaning it's a world wide issue, likely to counteract a pirate response, considering Koby's comments in the matter)
- Causing Blackbeard to mobilize his crew and contest with the marines.


Unless its some other force related to Alabasta, I'm not sure what else it would even be. The Marines can't even lend strength to Wano currently, indicating they are more scared of this thing than Kaido and Big Mom teaming up.

Crazy right?

I also read your full theory in the other thread and it all connects well, but don't you think Teach with Pluton would be too much? IMO only Poseidon could stop him by sinking Pluton, and as implied in Odens flashback with Roger, Luffy is gonna need the ancient weapons for whatever Joyboy had in mind. And if Plutons location is revealed, how come Teach is the only yonko on the move? I think someone power hungry like BM and Kaido would want to have it for sure.

 

[Paperchampion23]

I also read your full theory in the other thread and it all connects well, but don't you think Teach with Pluton would be too much? IMO only Poseidon could stop him by sinking Pluton, and as implied in Odens flashback with Roger, Luffy is gonna need the ancient weapons for whatever Joyboy had in mind. And if Plutons location is revealed, how come Teach is the only yonko on the move? I think someone power hungry like BM and Kaido would want to have it for sure.

I think that's the point. Teach is trying to amass all of the world's greatest weapons

- an impregnable crew, half of which are Level 6 prisoners
- 2 extremely broken devil fruits (we all theorize he has a 3rd)
- the world's most dangerous superweapon as his ship


Big Mom and Kaido likely do not know of this, it's why it works. And isolated country like Wano surely takes time for news to reach it.

And surely that's also what may happen after Blackbeard get it: Luffy wins and uses the ship for that prophecy. Hell, perhaps Blackbeard performs a twisted version of that prophecy.


I think right now it's too early too tell, but it definitely is Pluton they are going after. It being a physical object that has to do with Alabasta kingdom, nothing else logically makes sense.

We also forget that Luffy has Shirahoshi as a friend and she can probably be used to counteract Pluton in some way. Not to mention, Uranus is still a factor somewhere.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Scillian will lead Minks as Grand fleet division

Carrot will join strawhat, there is nothing stopping her from sailing!

Roger had minks and Fishman, giant too
Oden has minks and fishman in her main squad

You think Luffy who is Roger 3.0 wont have a mink in his main squad ?

 

[Walreyn]

Pedros will was to let them sail on/escape Tottoland, and he died for it. Carrot sailing with them adds zero meaning to this. Because lets be real, do they really need protection from Carrot of all people? And youre right, witnessing the dawn was Pedros thing, which made him interesting. Carrot has no similar ambition. I feel like Oda is still saving his trump card for member 10, because all current 'candidates' arent quite up to it (some more some less)

Makes me believe that pedro is still alive and will most likely return here in this arc

 

[Zenos7]

Scillian will lead Minks as Grand fleet division

Carrot will join strawhat, there is nothing stopping her from sailing!

Roger had minks and Fishman, giant too
Oden has minks and fishman in her main squad

You think Luffy who is Roger 3.0 wont have a mink in his main squad ?

main squad?

neko and inu secretly got on the ship, just like carrot with the shp ship.

or am i forgetting another actual mink member of rogers crew?

 

[Garp the Fist]

Neko and Inu's time in the future Pirate King's crew had them as stowaways overshadowed by a Kozuki, and ended with them staying on Wano, never seeing Laugh Tale.

Yes, I think Carrot will parallel that perfectly.

 

[Rootbeer]

If there's a mink on Kaido's crew among the Tobiroppo or the Numbers, then i would maybe start considering a mink joining the Strawhats. So far minks weren't shown to be a must have as top tier pirate crews member in comparison to fishmen. Whitebeard, Roger, Kaido, Big Mom, Blackbeard, Luffy, Doffy, Oden all had or have one. It would make sense to expect a Fishman in Shanks crew, not a mink though.

 

[Paperchampion23]

If there's a mink on Kaido's crew among the Tobiroppo or the Numbers, then i would maybe start considering a mink joining the Strawhats. So far minks weren't shown to be a must have as top tier pirate crews member in comparison to fishmen. Whitebeard, Roger, Kaido, Big Mom, Blackbeard, Luffy, Doffy, Oden all had or have one. It would make sense to expect a Fishman in Shanks crew, not a mink though.

Shanks doesn't have a fishman. Blackbeard doesn't have a fishman. Kind of a moot argument.

 

[Rootbeer]

Shanks doesn't have a fishman. Blackbeard doesn't have a fishman. Kind of a moot argument.

Blackbeard does have a fishman and it's reinforced by Jinbei joining the crew. Vasco Shot will most likely be his opponent. You can also see he has piercings where fishmen gills are. As for Shanks it's unknown, so you can't make that statement.

 

[Garp the Fist]

Vasco Shot is unlikely to be a Fishman, he was born in South Blue and his Vivre Card doesn't say he's one.

 

[Rootbeer]

Vasco Shot is unlikely to be a Fishman, he was born in South Blue and his Vivre Card doesn't say he's one.

The Vivre card not mentioning that he's a fishman doesn't confirm or disprove anything. I think he's a fishman without question. Faust, the mink on Hawkins crew was born in North blue and Kawamatsu is native of Wano.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Blackbeard does have a fishman and it's reinforced by Jinbei joining the crew. Vasco Shot will most likely be his opponent. You can also see he has piercings where fishmen gills are. As for Shanks it's unknown, so you can't make that statement.

That's a pretty mega assumption lol. Nowhere was it ever stated he was in the slightest, and he doesn't even have a hint of Fishman like qualities.

Only thing is maybe his 11th crewmember/the 10th unrevealed captain is a fishman

 

[Rootbeer]

That's a pretty mega assumption lol. Nowhere was it ever stated he was in the slightest, and he doesn't even have a hint of Fishman like qualities

Carrot joining the crew is a huge assumption too given that she's a really poorly written character. Have you ever seen a one piece character or someone in real life with piercings on each sides of their trapezius muscles? We have seen fishmen gills right at those specific places. He has also the same skin color as octopus fishmen and his alcohol gourd is an identical pattern with the fishman Hyouzou on fishman island. With Vasco Shot's big nose and reddish skin color he ressemble a blobfish.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Carrot joining the crew is a huge assumption too given that she's a really poorly written character. Have you ever seen a one piece character or someone in real life with piercings on each sides of their trapezius muscles? We have seen fishmen gills right at those specific places. He has also the same skin color as octopus fishmen and his alcohol gourd is an identical pattern with the fishman Hyouzou on fishman island. With Vasco Shot's big nose and reddish skin color he ressemble a blobfish.

I see the resemblance now, thanks. To be honest though, I still think it has nothing to do with anything, but rather a random connection you are trying to piece together to disprove Minks though....

She's not a poorly written character any more than Chopper or Nami or Robin or Zoro have been the last 400 chapters lol.