Gk = gamme knife.
GK destroyed his internal limbs, he did a first aid with his own power. Also he was using birdcage, it's not an automatic technique that works without doffy. Exactly like Kaido who lifted Onigashima while fighting. Both useless moves but still a way for Oda to nerf them.
We can't also deny that doffy wasn't out after one round. Without the help, he would have killed Luffy.
You said luffy took lots of time to beat him ... yes but that's luffy's style : wasting time/playing/fighting style which requires many moves.
But one thing is sure doffy had 0 answer against g4 but luffy's haki limit is the issue during DR.
GK destroyed his internal limbs, he did a first aid with his own power. Also he was using birdcage, it's not an automatic technique that works without doffy. Exactly like Kaido who lifted Onigashima while fighting. Both useless moves but still a way for Oda to nerf them.
We can't also deny that doffy wasn't out after one round. Without the help, he would have killed Luffy.
You said luffy took lots of time to beat him ... yes but that's luffy's style : wasting time/playing/fighting style which requires many moves.
But one thing is sure doffy had 0 answer against g4 but luffy's haki limit is the issue during DR.
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Fresh Doffy is still one shotted by KKG and he can't damage G4.
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It was never stated that birdcage and lifting Onigashima nerfs them. This is the same saying Sugar was nerfed by transforming too much toys or Aokiji by using Ice Age on Tsunamis.
Luffy can easily won Doffy with one round. First he can one shot with KKG. Second he wasted time doing nothing while he thought he had finished Doffy.
Just like Kaido said Doffy is weak and Jack is not.
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It was never stated that birdcage and lifting Onigashima nerfs them. This is the same saying Sugar was nerfed by transforming too much toys or Aokiji by using Ice Age on Tsunamis.
Luffy can easily won Doffy with one round. First he can one shot with KKG. Second he wasted time doing nothing while he thought he had finished Doffy.
Just like Kaido said Doffy is weak and Jack is not.
They say Mingo was on the verge of death with his reflexes severely nerfed that's why.
1. Luffy was also heavy damage and this was stated directly so no reason to pretend Luffy was fresh
2. Mingo's best reaction feat was after GK
3. Mingo himself said he was rapidly reconstructing his organs aka reparining them, and feat wise it was working; Mingo went from getting punched out by Base Luffy to dodging G4 point blank in quick succession.
This "on the verge of death" Mingo is nonexistent and contradicts what was said and what we've seen.
1. Luffy was also heavy damage and this was stated directly so no reason to pretend Luffy was fresh
2. Mingo's best reaction feat was after GK
3. Mingo himself said he was rapidly reconstructing his organs aka reparining them, and feat wise it was working; Mingo went from getting punched out by Base Luffy to dodging G4 point blank in quick succession.
This "on the verge of death" Mingo is nonexistent and contradicts what was said and what we've seen.
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Nope, it was told that Kaido lifting strength got weaker because he himself got weaker not the opposite. And it is only obvious since he is the source of the force.
Again this is like saying that Sugar got weaker because she transformed many toys.
And even that statement about Kaido was pure bullshit since he fought a lot more after and Oda never touched the issue again.
Again this is like saying that Sugar got weaker because she transformed many toys.
And even that statement about Kaido was pure bullshit since he fought a lot more after and Oda never touched the issue again.
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C'mon Man, Aokiji did nothing more than a warning. If he actually went ALL out on doffy at the end of punk Hazard, dressrosa Arc wouldn't have happened.
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I really can't see any scenario where doflamingo is weaker than king or Queen, doffy would be extremely useful as a YONKO COMMANDER had he not been arrogant af.
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I really can't see any scenario where doflamingo is weaker than king or Queen, doffy would be extremely useful as a YONKO COMMANDER had he not been arrogant af.
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Like I told about Sugar. If that was true than she would be highly nerfed. Which she won't.
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He got exhausted because he was pushing clouds way before that. He was beated by Kanjuro, almost died on stage, was 100% tensed all the raid.
He used clouds just in the end. He was already tired way before that.
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King Kong Gun my man.
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Two completely different things. Kaido could handle a lot of G5 strikes. When I say handle I mean he not only tanked but dodged and defended himself. And against BG he CLASHED for a long time and almost won.
Doffy was sent backwards for meters if not kilometers everytime G4 touched him. And he couldn't clash with KKG since it immediately broke his strings.
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He got exhausted because he was pushing clouds way before that. He was beated by Kanjuro, almost died on stage, was 100% tensed all the raid.
He used clouds just in the end. He was already tired way before that.
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King Kong Gun my man.
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Two completely different things. Kaido could handle a lot of G5 strikes. When I say handle I mean he not only tanked but dodged and defended himself. And against BG he CLASHED for a long time and almost won.
Doffy was sent backwards for meters if not kilometers everytime G4 touched him. And he couldn't clash with KKG since it immediately broke his strings.
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@Herrera95 Sugar's DF has nothing to do with Kaido's DF. They are 2 separate DFs. They are not even is same class for that matter. It's very obvious by yamato's statement that Kaido's stamina is related to lifting and Yamato as Kaido's daughter knows much more than us