Doflamingo's entire kit is centered around stalling so he's literally the perfect opponent for Dressrosa G4, however Doflamingo's AP is seriously just pathetic, his strongest awakening attack did zero damage to Dressrosa Boundman whereas a no name cut from Cracker almost cut Luffy's arm off.
Convenient plot stalling was present, yes but Doffy didnt defend with Awakening in 1st round, afaik.
If he defended with it from the get-go and if there was no damage from GK, he would outlast it anyway.
We know that Luffy couldnt defeat any of Doffy, Cracker and Katakuri without help. It's his thing.
Doflamingo's entire kit is centered around stalling so he's literally the perfect opponent for Dressrosa G4, however Doflamingo's AP is seriously just pathetic, his strongest awakening attack did zero damage to Dressrosa Boundman whereas a no name cut from Cracker almost cut Luffy's arm off.
Why does Doffytards ignores G4 power in order to hype and want Doffy?
They come with bullshit like Doffy fought Law before Luffy, Gamma Knife and bla bla bla.
I'm not gonna even debate that both Doffy and Luffy stated that the other wasn't in good condition because both had fights before their final fight.
Get fresh Doffy. Can be current since he is probably slightly stronger than the one who lost at Dressrosa. And puts him to fight out of timeskip Luffy.
DOFFY IS STILL LOSING!
Did you guys saw the fight? Doffy was helpess against G4 power. He couldn't stand himself, he couldn't defend himself, he couldn't counter attack and damage him.
Oh almost forgot. They also have the bullshit excuse of Luffy needing 2 rounds of G4 and people helping him to escape from Doffy. What about all that time that Luffy spend doing nothing thinking Doffy was already done? All he needed was give him another Kong Gun or calverin and he was done.
And even without all the fight. Fresh Doffy would be knocked out by a single King Kong Gun.
Horrible take mate!
Everything you stated is wrong; Doffy not only kept G4 at bay until it ran out but also did it after destroying Law.
A fresh Doffy would mid diff Luffy.
GK destroyed his internal limbs, he did a first aid with his own power. Also he was using birdcage, it's not an automatic technique that works without doffy. Exactly like Kaido who lifted Onigashima while fighting. Both useless moves but still a way for Oda to nerf them.
We can't also deny that doffy wasn't out after one round. Without the help, he would have killed Luffy.
You said luffy took lots of time to beat him ... yes but that's luffy's style : wasting time/playing/fighting style which requires many moves.
But one thing is sure doffy had 0 answer against g4 but luffy's haki limit is the issue during DR.
Horrible take mate!
Everything you stated is wrong; Doffy not only kept G4 at bay until it ran out but also did it after destroying Law.
A fresh Doffy would mid diff Luffy.
GK destroyed his internal limbs, he did a first aid with his own power. Also he was using birdcage, it's not an automatic technique that works without doffy. Exactly like Kaido who lifted Onigashima while fighting. Both useless moves but still a way for Oda to nerf them.
We can't also deny that doffy wasn't out after one round. Without the help, he would have killed Luffy.
You said luffy took lots of time to beat him ... yes but that's luffy's style : wasting time/playing/fighting style which requires many moves.
But one thing is sure doffy had 0 answer against g4 but luffy's haki limit is the issue during DR.
It was never stated that birdcage and lifting Onigashima nerfs them. This is the same saying Sugar was nerfed by transforming too much toys or Aokiji by using Ice Age on Tsunamis.
Luffy can easily won Doffy with one round. First he can one shot with KKG. Second he wasted time doing nothing while he thought he had finished Doffy.
Just like Kaido said Doffy is weak and Jack is not.
They say Mingo was on the verge of death with his reflexes severely nerfed that's why.
1. Luffy was also heavy damage and this was stated directly so no reason to pretend Luffy was fresh
2. Mingo's best reaction feat was after GK
3. Mingo himself said he was rapidly reconstructing his organs aka reparining them, and feat wise it was working; Mingo went from getting punched out by Base Luffy to dodging G4 point blank in quick succession.
This "on the verge of death" Mingo is nonexistent and contradicts what was said and what we've seen.
Fresh Doffy is still one shotted by KKG and he can't damage G4.
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It was never stated that birdcage and lifting Onigashima nerfs them. This is the same saying Sugar was nerfed by transforming too much toys or Aokiji by using Ice Age on Tsunamis.
Luffy can easily won Doffy with one round. First he can one shot with KKG. Second he wasted time doing nothing while he thought he had finished Doffy.
Just like Kaido said Doffy is weak and Jack is not.
Nope, it was told that Kaido lifting strength got weaker because he himself got weaker not the opposite. And it is only obvious since he is the source of the force.
Again this is like saying that Sugar got weaker because she transformed many toys.
And even that statement about Kaido was pure bullshit since he fought a lot more after and Oda never touched the issue again.
Nope, it was told that Kaido lifting strength got weaker because he himself got weaker not the opposite. And it is only obvious since he is the source of the force.
Again this is like saying that Sugar got weaker because she transformed many toys.
And even that statement about Kaido was pure bullshit since he fought a lot more after and Oda never touched the issue again.
But that does means his lifting is connected to stamina no? He becomes weaker which affects lifting strength. It isn't a passive ability. That is my point
Nope, it was told that Kaido lifting strength got weaker because he himself got weaker not the opposite. And it is only obvious since he is the source of the force.
Again this is like saying that Sugar got weaker because she transformed many toys.
And even that statement about Kaido was pure bullshit since he fought a lot more after and Oda never touched the issue again.
Fresh Doffy is still one shotted by KKG and he can't damage G4.
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It was never stated that birdcage and lifting Onigashima nerfs them. This is the same saying Sugar was nerfed by transforming too much toys or Aokiji by using Ice Age on Tsunamis.
Luffy can easily won Doffy with one round. First he can one shot with KKG. Second he wasted time doing nothing while he thought he had finished Doffy.
Just like Kaido said Doffy is weak and Jack is not.
Fresh Doffy is still one shotted by KKG and he can't damage G4.
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It was never stated that birdcage and lifting Onigashima nerfs them. This is the same saying Sugar was nerfed by transforming too much toys or Aokiji by using Ice Age on Tsunamis.
Luffy can easily won Doffy with one round. First he can one shot with KKG. Second he wasted time doing nothing while he thought he had finished Doffy.
Just like Kaido said Doffy is weak and Jack is not.
Dofla is top tier and nothing will change that... we saw how cracker was defensless vs Kuzan where doffy countered him easily... Dofla wasnt afraid of admiral, and we all know only admirals would be sent to deal with him.... and now greenbull confirmed that by negging two YCs
C'mon Man, Aokiji did nothing more than a warning. If he actually went ALL out on doffy at the end of punk Hazard, dressrosa Arc wouldn't have happened.
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I really can't see any scenario where doflamingo is weaker than king or Queen, doffy would be extremely useful as a YONKO COMMANDER had he not been arrogant af.
But that does means his lifting is connected to stamina no? He becomes weaker which affects lifting strength. It isn't a passive ability. That is my point
Two completely different things. Kaido could handle a lot of G5 strikes. When I say handle I mean he not only tanked but dodged and defended himself. And against BG he CLASHED for a long time and almost won.
Doffy was sent backwards for meters if not kilometers everytime G4 touched him. And he couldn't clash with KKG since it immediately broke his strings.
@Herrera95 Sugar's DF has nothing to do with Kaido's DF. They are 2 separate DFs. They are not even is same class for that matter. It's very obvious by yamato's statement that Kaido's stamina is related to lifting and Yamato as Kaido's daughter knows much more than us
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