Future Events Why Zoro and Sanji will face Calamities
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It's true that Kid should fight Kaido along with Luffy, after all he did say he would take Kaido's head so he can't afford to be stuck in another difficult fight.
However I can see why someone would think he should defeat a Calamity. Kid is one of the most powerful and important SNs along with Luffy and Law so he needs to be hyped up big time. Law already got his moment of glory in PH and Dressrosa when he defeated Smoker, Vergo and Trebol, Kid didn't get to defeat any powerful enemy. If his only fight in the arc is against someone he's not meant to defeat, that won't do him justice.
But then again, we can't forget the BMPs are part of the equation. Kid could fight Smoothie, for example. Heck, he could even team up with Law, Drake and Killer to defeat BM and be the one to land the final blow. Then he would join Luffy to fight Kaido.
Another option would be to hype up Apoo then make Kid beat him in convincing fashion.
However I can see why someone would think he should defeat a Calamity. Kid is one of the most powerful and important SNs along with Luffy and Law so he needs to be hyped up big time. Law already got his moment of glory in PH and Dressrosa when he defeated Smoker, Vergo and Trebol, Kid didn't get to defeat any powerful enemy. If his only fight in the arc is against someone he's not meant to defeat, that won't do him justice.
But then again, we can't forget the BMPs are part of the equation. Kid could fight Smoothie, for example. Heck, he could even team up with Law, Drake and Killer to defeat BM and be the one to land the final blow. Then he would join Luffy to fight Kaido.
Another option would be to hype up Apoo then make Kid beat him in convincing fashion.
The thing is, that should have already happened by now. If he has a battle vs someone on that caliber before facing 2 yonko, thats a bit too much. Even Luffy had a day of rest before fighting Katakuri after Cracker. Udon was a wasted opportunity to show off Kid defeat someone, should have made Apoo a guard there or something
I am getting the Mr3 vibe from Queen. He probably isnt 2nd strongest underling but was effective in his tasks so far.
Same situation like with Mr3 being a higher ranked number than Mr4 despite being weaker than him.
Tobi Roppo discussing his replacement also doesnt work in Queen's favor.
The plague is probably what keeps him in the game, find a counter for plague and rip Queen, probably.
Same situation like with Mr3 being a higher ranked number than Mr4 despite being weaker than him.
Tobi Roppo discussing his replacement also doesnt work in Queen's favor.
The plague is probably what keeps him in the game, find a counter for plague and rip Queen, probably.
One got nothing to do with the other.
Queen, despite possibly being weaker than Jack and perhaps some F6 members, appears to still be above Kaido Jr.
King is by far the most dangerous commander, I am not sure if Beckman can beat him but giving him the benefit of the doubt due to hype. Perhaps only Shiryu will surpass King.
Queen, despite possibly being weaker than Jack and perhaps some F6 members, appears to still be above Kaido Jr.
King is by far the most dangerous commander, I am not sure if Beckman can beat him but giving him the benefit of the doubt due to hype. Perhaps only Shiryu will surpass King.
because he deserves an actual 1v1
if he only fights kaido, then he will do nothing apart from being upstaged by Luffy. Oda said that Kidd was the most important supernova so imo its basically granted he will get a 1v1 this arc. I mean even in dressrosa, Law took out trebol. There's no reason Kidd shouldn't get a fight.
Same goes for Law imo.
if he only fights kaido, then he will do nothing apart from being upstaged by Luffy. Oda said that Kidd was the most important supernova so imo its basically granted he will get a 1v1 this arc. I mean even in dressrosa, Law took out trebol. There's no reason Kidd shouldn't get a fight.
Same goes for Law imo.
The Ashura Douji, Jack ≤ Denjiro ≈ Zoro comparison looks good enough for me, also the idea that someone who can compete with X Drake could theoretically stretch towards Queen.
One could also frame the question as who would want to stall the YCs when Luffy, Law and Kidd want to rush for Kaido (and Big Mom), even if they likely engage with the YCs first?
Zoro, Sanji, Jinbe, but also some others like Killer, Denjiro, Ashura Douji, Inu, Neko etc are possible. If one wants to be strictly consistent I think two or more of those could actually make minced meat of either of the YCs (though Ino and Neko more as support or tanks than attack). That's also why Zoro and Sanji in 1-on-1s seems to make sense. They will of course grow beyond their limits yada-yada and all that.
Jinbe seems like he will primarily be involved with Big Mom and her family, and I think he might face Smoothie. I can also imagine Denjiro or Killer fighting Smoothie, as sword/blade-fighters, although Denjiro seems more like he will stick with Wano's enemies, and vice versa. I can imagine King will pick Denjiro out if he sees him early enough.
Since there are quite a few high-tier alliance members, it seems one or the other will be "extra" anyway. And if one doesn't want to be completely strict about the Jack-comparison or it is misleading, I can imagine Denjiro fighting King first but Zoro having to finish it alone. Then Killer could possibly assist Sanji.
Ashura Douji will probably face Jack, as he had before.
Inu and Neko seem like they would be good picks to take out the Big Mom mid-to-low-tier.
That aside, Oda doesn't necessarily intend the difference between Luffy and Zoro to be huge, and people might exaggerate that. Although Sanji remains a bit tricky. And let's not forget that fighting enemies which seem (somewhat) above characters is a common theme of end-fights.
One could also frame the question as who would want to stall the YCs when Luffy, Law and Kidd want to rush for Kaido (and Big Mom), even if they likely engage with the YCs first?
Zoro, Sanji, Jinbe, but also some others like Killer, Denjiro, Ashura Douji, Inu, Neko etc are possible. If one wants to be strictly consistent I think two or more of those could actually make minced meat of either of the YCs (though Ino and Neko more as support or tanks than attack). That's also why Zoro and Sanji in 1-on-1s seems to make sense. They will of course grow beyond their limits yada-yada and all that.
Jinbe seems like he will primarily be involved with Big Mom and her family, and I think he might face Smoothie. I can also imagine Denjiro or Killer fighting Smoothie, as sword/blade-fighters, although Denjiro seems more like he will stick with Wano's enemies, and vice versa. I can imagine King will pick Denjiro out if he sees him early enough.
Since there are quite a few high-tier alliance members, it seems one or the other will be "extra" anyway. And if one doesn't want to be completely strict about the Jack-comparison or it is misleading, I can imagine Denjiro fighting King first but Zoro having to finish it alone. Then Killer could possibly assist Sanji.
Ashura Douji will probably face Jack, as he had before.
Inu and Neko seem like they would be good picks to take out the Big Mom mid-to-low-tier.
That aside, Oda doesn't necessarily intend the difference between Luffy and Zoro to be huge, and people might exaggerate that. Although Sanji remains a bit tricky. And let's not forget that fighting enemies which seem (somewhat) above characters is a common theme of end-fights.
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How can you run and use the acclerators at the same time its impossble once the acclerators are activated hes moving on his own his legs are no longer do the work. We seen it with all the vinsmokes none of them use accleration while running. Sanji also never used accerlators while running.
So far oda has only showed us that the suit is durable and is used as a shield. It doesn't show us that it has increased his power.
The only way the raid suit can incrase his power is if he uses his kicks and then adds on the acclerators on top of the kick. like judge did here
Coa makes your attack stronger because its harder. The raid suit has never been said to be "hard" the material is not "hard" like coa its just durable.
So far oda has only showed us that the suit is durable and is used as a shield. It doesn't show us that it has increased his power.
The only way the raid suit can incrase his power is if he uses his kicks and then adds on the acclerators on top of the kick. like judge did here
Coa makes your attack stronger because its harder. The raid suit has never been said to be "hard" the material is not "hard" like coa its just durable.
COA increases durability. If you get an increase in durability, your attacks hit harder. The suit is more durable than Sanji's body and that's why his attack power increases.
He can kick with the boosters too and that increases attack power. So either way there is an increase
Look here the shield is used to block bullets aka the cape. The suit itself is durable but not hard like a sword or coa haki coating. ITs flexible and flimsy.
Now if you told me that Sanji got niji's raid suit then i can agree his speed increase because Niji's ability is lighting / light speed.
Sanji ability is stealth which is invsiblity. Even you saw franky say "wow hes moving so fast we can't see" but law corrected him and said its wrong stealth black turns invisble not move at a fast speed.
Now if you look at sanji without the raid suit and his speed on oven. This is the true " wow hes moving so fast you cant see" that franky mention and not invsiblity powers.
You can see the difference here which i'm showing you in "stealth" and "speed".
Sanji's raid suit is literally named "stealth black" the suit itself is meant to fit his style of being sneaky and undercover.
Ichiji's suit is explosions/lasers /destructive power
Nijiji's suit is lighting / speed
Yonji's suit is raw power and strength
Reiju suit is confusing might be posion but thats her devil fruit so idk..
Now if you told me that Sanji got niji's raid suit then i can agree his speed increase because Niji's ability is lighting / light speed.
Sanji ability is stealth which is invsiblity. Even you saw franky say "wow hes moving so fast we can't see" but law corrected him and said its wrong stealth black turns invisble not move at a fast speed.
Now if you look at sanji without the raid suit and his speed on oven. This is the true " wow hes moving so fast you cant see" that franky mention and not invsiblity powers.
You can see the difference here which i'm showing you in "stealth" and "speed".
Sanji's raid suit is literally named "stealth black" the suit itself is meant to fit his style of being sneaky and undercover.
Ichiji's suit is explosions/lasers /destructive power
Nijiji's suit is lighting / speed
Yonji's suit is raw power and strength
Reiju suit is confusing might be posion but thats her devil fruit so idk..
Again his suit is more durable than his body and therefore his attacks will be stronger. It is quite simple.
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