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This makes no fucking sense. You are telling people to be suspicious of me and Celestia but you don't believe we are scum?
You give me the vibe of someone who is afraid of jumping onto the Celestia wagon, almost the way TAC was defending her.
And now Drago is dead.
But this point is weak, I doubt townies would listen to you specifically.
This strikes me as odd. I don't see the benefit for the SK to kill TAC specifically. Unless if the SK believed that he was killing a townie, I don't see why SK would target scum so early.
Last day phase, you were asking people about their opinions on lynching vs not lynching. Did what they say match with their actual actions?
I'll have to go back and read it
So? This was the weirdest part for me, you suspected Celestia yet didn't want to vote her.
Why are you bringing up past game experience? We get it, scum may defend their buddies or they might also egg on and vote them. This tells me nothing except that I see both strategies present between you and TAC's reaction just like Bogard mentioned.
You defended TAC first, then TAC tried to distance from you.
Oh great, now you're blaming Celestia for acting suspicious, which means that you suspected her. Yet. You. DIdn't. Vote. For. Her.
I see where Drago is coming from, the people who voted Celestia were:
Reborn
Drago
HA001
Rej
Both Reborn and Drago I had strong town reads on. As for HA001, he had a reason to do so since Celestia was coming for him. Lastly, Rej I'm sitting on the fence. Could of been mafia joining the wagon but with TAC defending Celestia, I feel that the mafia were afraid of joining the Celestia lynch. Nonetheless, this doesn't townclear Rej for me. Just, he doesn't seem like a big suspect.
Moving on, let's not forget about Playa's last minute switch from Yo Tan Wa to Celestia.
What are you trying to say Cinera? That Don is suspicious or that he is a terrible player?
I do think Don is suspicious and I also said that I am not against your strategy of taking out bad players but that only applies in cases where we have no direction. And right now, we have other players to take a look at. Yet you are fixated on voting Don for being a bad player and interfering with your reads. Why not talk about his actions or gameplay?
This seems like an excuse that if Don somehow flips town, you have something to fall back to.
Not this deflection again.
This is a good point
You give me the vibe of someone who is afraid of jumping onto the Celestia wagon, almost the way TAC was defending her.
And now Drago is dead.
But this point is weak, I doubt townies would listen to you specifically.
This strikes me as odd. I don't see the benefit for the SK to kill TAC specifically. Unless if the SK believed that he was killing a townie, I don't see why SK would target scum so early.
Last day phase, you were asking people about their opinions on lynching vs not lynching. Did what they say match with their actual actions?
I'll have to go back and read it
So? This was the weirdest part for me, you suspected Celestia yet didn't want to vote her.
Why are you bringing up past game experience? We get it, scum may defend their buddies or they might also egg on and vote them. This tells me nothing except that I see both strategies present between you and TAC's reaction just like Bogard mentioned.
You defended TAC first, then TAC tried to distance from you.
Oh great, now you're blaming Celestia for acting suspicious, which means that you suspected her. Yet. You. DIdn't. Vote. For. Her.
I see where Drago is coming from, the people who voted Celestia were:
Reborn
Drago
HA001
Rej
Both Reborn and Drago I had strong town reads on. As for HA001, he had a reason to do so since Celestia was coming for him. Lastly, Rej I'm sitting on the fence. Could of been mafia joining the wagon but with TAC defending Celestia, I feel that the mafia were afraid of joining the Celestia lynch. Nonetheless, this doesn't townclear Rej for me. Just, he doesn't seem like a big suspect.
Moving on, let's not forget about Playa's last minute switch from Yo Tan Wa to Celestia.
What are you trying to say Cinera? That Don is suspicious or that he is a terrible player?
I do think Don is suspicious and I also said that I am not against your strategy of taking out bad players but that only applies in cases where we have no direction. And right now, we have other players to take a look at. Yet you are fixated on voting Don for being a bad player and interfering with your reads. Why not talk about his actions or gameplay?
This seems like an excuse that if Don somehow flips town, you have something to fall back to.
.This is a good point
@bold when Tac flipped Mafia, my first thought was Bogard sussed him so strongly on such weak claim due to Night phase. That made sense to me.
Bt it appears to be pure luck, I guess your gut feeling was on point.
Tho that doesn't really confirms you are townie for me. Your engagement with Tac really was scummy.
I really don't understand you Cinera. At one side i can't see a scum being so bold about his moves to push someone, just based on inactivity n terrible gameplay, at other hand i also can't see eye to eye with how a townie would push for inactiveness as a reason to lynch instead of sus when this is basically why we got 48 hours on our side? Plus Dragomir reason for how even a mislynch benefit us more.
You gameplay also feels different than last one, if i remember correctly you didn't try lynching based on inactiveness and terrible gameplay last game, when we had only 24 hours, why? Why change it nw?
I am assuming only Mafia would be benefited from such to not get aware of abilities, it won't benefit Town to clean a body since Mafia are already aware of abilities.
Which means Mafia killed Dragomir(suggesting he was townie) and also cleaned his body, so we might not get more idea bout eavh other roles to figure things out.
Maybe not, bt voting and not voting are the only major clues we get from D1, we got to make something out of it.
It might not even have tk hint someone scum, bt can also be used to get hints who might be townies.
Caught you, scum.
Silently passing sus on someone while laying low?
Unless you had prepared this in mind beforehand.
You just vote with no particular sus on Celestia? And you say a vote doesn't matter? Lame excuse.
I read on you so far is townie Final Beta. Also on Jew n Reborn. Rest i have no clear idea bout or i sus em.
For some reason, I just don't feel any sus vibes coming from you. I hope it's not simply because you are fellow S fan. 👊
Bt it appears to be pure luck, I guess your gut feeling was on point.
Tho that doesn't really confirms you are townie for me. Your engagement with Tac really was scummy.
I really don't understand you Cinera. At one side i can't see a scum being so bold about his moves to push someone, just based on inactivity n terrible gameplay, at other hand i also can't see eye to eye with how a townie would push for inactiveness as a reason to lynch instead of sus when this is basically why we got 48 hours on our side? Plus Dragomir reason for how even a mislynch benefit us more.
You gameplay also feels different than last one, if i remember correctly you didn't try lynching based on inactiveness and terrible gameplay last game, when we had only 24 hours, why? Why change it nw?
I am assuming only Mafia would be benefited from such to not get aware of abilities, it won't benefit Town to clean a body since Mafia are already aware of abilities.
Which means Mafia killed Dragomir(suggesting he was townie) and also cleaned his body, so we might not get more idea bout eavh other roles to figure things out.
Maybe not, bt voting and not voting are the only major clues we get from D1, we got to make something out of it.
It might not even have tk hint someone scum, bt can also be used to get hints who might be townies.
Caught you, scum.
Silently passing sus on someone while laying low?
Unless you had prepared this in mind beforehand.
You just vote with no particular sus on Celestia? And you say a vote doesn't matter? Lame excuse.
I read on you so far is townie Final Beta. Also on Jew n Reborn. Rest i have no clear idea bout or i sus em.
For some reason, I just don't feel any sus vibes coming from you. I hope it's not simply because you are fellow S fan. 👊
I agree from what I saw janitor is a mafia power, and this allows to hide from us the power and alignment of the dead. So there are good chance that the dead people is townie. But I think it can be a smart move to janitor an independant player because it will lead town to believe that one town is dead, and bring confusion and miscalculations upon the town about the number of townies independant etc.
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