Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1071 Spoilers Discussion

[mly90]

I haven't kept up with the thread. How have Zorobros reacted to this Kaku clash?

Not too bad sleep diffing kaku for starters most exciting stuff is still ahead of us

 

[ZenZu]

I know it's a call back to that, but the difference is, back then, Lucci got up and went right back after Luffy. Here however, Luffy had time to talk to Sentamaru, and then hop on a shuttle to be carted away.

If there is one thing Oda emphasized about awakened Lucci, it was his speed. If he was conscious, he was more than fast enough to intercept anyone who was trying to get onto that shuttle. He was out for at least a minute or two.

That's complete headcanon though, it took Lucci some time even in EL after G3 to compose himself. If he fell into water he would have drowned. He didn't attack Luffy right away back then, Luffy came to him and he countered. No point calculating time like this.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Without sugarcoating, Gear 5 Luffy looks really underwhelming against Lucci
Not only he couldn't KO him, he also saw Sentomaru got injured and he got pissed

Yet even then, pissed off Gear 5 still couldn't KO Lucci and fanboys resort to awakening recovery excuse.
Unfortunately the shitty part doesn't end there. Gear 5 even left injured Sentomaru behind.
He ran away from battlefield, without KOing his opponent, and while leaving injured comrade behind!

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I haven't kept up with the thread. How have Zorobros reacted to this Kaku clash?

think they are coming with the expectation hes going to neg him
tho kaku is still in base.

 

[AkainuTheGrimReaper]

The eggland ar currently is getting like enies lobby arc with fighting cp0 and escaping from marine ships.
Watch Kizaru didn’t fight or use full power in this arc,

Strawhats crew escape as usual to reach elbaf island or another island .

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Without sugarcoating, Gear 5 Luffy looks really underwhelming against Lucci
Not only he couldn't KO him, he also saw Sentomaru got injured and he got pissed

Yet even then, pissed off Gear 5 still couldn't KO Lucci and fanboys resort to awakening recovery excuse.
Unfortunately the shitty part doesn't end there. Gear 5 even left injured Sentomaru behind.
He ran away from battlefield, without KOing his opponent, and while leaving injured comrade behind!

when you put it like that
I can't argue .

 

[Topi Jerami]

The underwhelming dumbass also made Seraphims changing sides.

Lucci literally showed the dumbass how to make seraphims changing side: by KOing the person with current highest authority.
After Sentomaru is down, the person with current highest authority is Lucci and CP0.
More reason to KO Lucci, yet the underwhelming dumbass chose to ran away.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

That's complete headcanon though, it took Lucci some time even in EL after G3 to compose himself. If he fell into water he would have drowned. No point calculating time like this.

Well what's the difference between the first time Luffy sent Lucci flying, and he recovered in seconds to blitz Sentomaru, and the second time?

We can either assume he was out for a minute, which gave everyone time to escape, or he didn't want no more smoke, and let them intentionally escape, so he could finish off Sentomaru.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

I know it's a call back to that, but the difference is, back then, Lucci got up and went right back after Luffy. Here however, Luffy had time to talk to Sentamaru, and then hop on a shuttle to be carted away.

If there is one thing Oda emphasized about awakened Lucci, it was his speed. If he was conscious, he was more than fast enough to intercept anyone who was trying to get onto that shuttle. He was out for at least a minute or two.

Lucci took time to get back every time he got hit—the difference is just that overwhelming. He wasn't KO'ed though.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

luffy might be bound to clash with lucci again
him saying he doesn't recognize him as a yonko is telling
he has to go at him more seriously
this arc is about proving themselves.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

him saying he doesn't recognize him as a yonko is telling

Zoro's about to show him why Luffy's a Yonko.

 

[ZenZu]

Well what's the difference between the first time Luffy sent Lucci flying, and he recovered in seconds to blitz Sentomaru, and the second time?

We can either assume he was out for a minute, which gave everyone time to escape, or he didn't want no more smoke, and let them intentionally escape, so he could finish off Sentomaru.

The difference is the attack hurt him more lol? Took him longer to get back on his feet and start fighting again? All attacks aren't built the same. When Lucci took G3, he didn't just bounce right back up, nor did he shrug it off immediately. But he also was not actually knocked out, simply knocked down. I don't see any reason that doesn't apply here.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Zoro's about to show him why Luffy's a Yonko.

that wouldn't make lucci respect luffy
as much as you think it would.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Not too bad sleep diffing kaku for starters most exciting stuff is still ahead of us

Amen

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

what happens if Zoro wipe them all out then?

that's the thing
he won't

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

Yeah, everyone knows you don't have an agenda

That's my boy Preach

complex: complex to refer to something that is not simple. Something complex has two or more related parts, or is not simple in its structure

a character with good motives but their ways of execution being wrong doesn't sound simple does it.
look at your description of Garp
or most of the straw hats
noble goals,
perfect decision makers ,
nonconflicting motives,
if you are looking for characters who aren't complex
these are the people you should be talking about.

matter of fact most

Its difficult to generalise why we like or dislike fictional characters

 

[Gol D. Roger]

that wouldn't make lucci respect luffy
as much as you think it would.

It would because it'll make him realize how much Luffy held back. But again, I don't think Zoro can wipe them out without a hard fight and I don't see that kind of fight happening. Someone's gonna intervene, so what you say might even happen or Lucci realizes Luffy's worth when he sees Kizaru's defeat.

 

[silverfire]

Think it's because Yonkou fans like the characters because of their hype/wank, as Yonkou don't share many other similarities with each other (completely different designs, fighting styles, personalities etc.). Admirals are more grounded in this regard, they simply have a job to do and are following orders. There isn't this rebellious free air around them, and the wank that comes with it naturally.

Garp embodies that free air, and the wank that comes with it. He's linked to the MC. It's the portrayal over substance type of character, similar to Shanks. A lot of talk, not a lot of action. Admirals are complete opposite of this, where they are all action and receive very little wank/help from Oda. They speak through their feats, not through links to the MC and intangible hype.

Garp's assessment falls more in line with the Yonkou than the the rest of the marines. It's why majority of marine haters are drawn to him.

I wish I could upvote this a dozen times. Sums up how admiral fans and yonko fans view things very well.

I am just saying why Garp is more likable than Akainu. I understand if people like Aokiji or Fuji. Whats so complex about Akainu? He is just a madman.

I don’t think Akainu is a madman, and he’s likely to shape up to be someone more complex than expected.

It’s been interesting watching him go from bloodlusted soldier to military commander perpetually being tangled up by bureaucratic red tape. And one has to wonder what made him this way.

Then you’ve got these legendary, chosen ones, special blood-lined, stuff of prophecy shonen characters - Whitebeard, Ace and Luffy, who Akainu, a regular soldier, is undaunted by and mutilates without hesitation.

It was also more interesting to me to see good guy Aokiji have to fight this conflict within himself, having to stomach the heinous acts the organization he worked for committed, while continuing to follow orders and grapple with himself as to the meaning of justice.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Don't lie, don't be biased. @Celestial D. Dragon
Who looked more intimidating:

Enraged Luffy after seeing fallen comrade

Or Enraged Zoro after seeing fallen comrade:

 

[ZenZu]

That's my boy Preach

Quit dickriding lmao