It's retarded that Shanks even in the poll
Not more than BB being in poll after all we saw him from so far lol
No
Just because you use a sword doesn't make you a swordsman. GB's main way of fighting is through his logia DF
No it wont
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Why shouldn't Mihawk be stronger?
Every time they are mentioned together in manga or official materials, Mihawk is shown in a better light.
Yeah obviously if all casuals vote, Shanks will win because he has more fans..
I don't understand, to me it seems that you're are conflating haki skills and sword skills, when the two are distinguished.
Whitebeard was the World Strongest Man and he had a non-black sword, and although it's not said, he had probably the best haki in the world, but this is my speculation.
What I am saying is that haki is an integral part of swordsmanship.
So, you can't separate swordsmanship from haki, which is why "Mihawk WSS in swordsfight without haki" is retarded.
Now, regarding Whitebeard, I'm afraid I didn't understand your point well. Prime WB is obviously stronger than Mihawk, old healthy WB should also be stronger than Mihawk.
But again, the comparison is a bit weird because they both belong to different eras
Plus, WB is a mixed blade + DF user. Not a pure blade user.
A better comparison would be say Roger vs Mihawk, because Roger is an actual swordsman
If prime Roger was hypothetically around, I 100% believe that Roger would be WSS instead of Mihawk
My argument is basically this: Do you think that if Whitebeard had fought Mihawk without his fruit he would have lost? That Whitebeard would have lost against a better swordman?
Yes, old healthy WB (i.e WB in meds) without DF would lose against Mihawk, for sure.
The old WB in Marineford (i.e WB off meds) without DF is honestly just commander level and would lose to Marco/Jozu, dude had non existent conqueror's haki and mediocre observation haki.
To answer your question:
- prime WB without DF.....I don't know
- old WB (healthy) without DF would lose, but would put up a good fight
- old WB (off meds) without DF would get folded, DF carried WB in Marineford
I think there is a clear misunderstanding of BB, and Oda is the main culprit.
I believe he is much stronger that his portrayal, and I may have to write a thread about it, but frankly feels like a waste of time since most people are only on the Zoro vs Sanji or Zoro vs Luffy or Yonko vs Admiral train on here, and would just be ignored.
BB is a coward, but he always gets what he wants. Or better, he never loses. I think that this side of his character is what it's gonna make him survive until the end and be the final enemy.
I get what you're saying about BB man.
I actually like BB, amongst my top 10 favs and my favourite amongst the 6 listed here. Just that I got carried away cause the jackass started insulting me.
I understand the character of Blackbeard, and it is amongst the reason BB is my fav.
He avoids fights that aren't worth it, while is ready to risk his life if he deems the price worthy enough.
It has to be said though, that BB hasn't been looking the best since Wano ended.
Law got a clean hit on him. Imagine if this was Shanks or Akainu or Mihawk that caught BB off guard, the dude probably would've died there.
Again, I also understand that BB tends to get hit early on in the fight and is a bit clumsy. But it does bring you down unless you're simply that much more powerful than your opponent (like against Ace, Luffy pre TS. Law post TS)
My main point against BB:
BB hasn't shown the overwhelming attack power, that can offset his mediocre CQC. He can make up for his relatively poor CQC against characters like Law who isn't a top tier (but approaching there), but against the best amongst top tier it would prove be fatal
That being said, BB is obviously going to get stronger and will be top 3 characters by EoS (along with Luffy and Imu).
Just that, he isn't that now.