Character Discussion Can Oda write Zoro becoming WSS without winning the fight?

[Master OF Haki]

Oh about this

Skill,strength,and haki are individually integral factors in swordsmanship

So being WSS is not only about Skill that woukd be dumb

Rather the question would be when did he become WSS.. And how come even with superior skill he left his "legendary" battle with Shanks unsettled
And if its unsettles doesn't that mean he became the WSS before his stalemate fights with Shanks?

Exactly. Btw, based on the story Mihawk last interest in Shanks after he lost his arm. But the question is, Why doesn't Mihawk challenge other strong swordsman?

 

[Phoenix D. King]

But WSS isn’t about winning the fight… It’s about skill

Only would be true if it was publicly obvious that Mihawk cheated. Which makes no sense. But then you Shanksters would have to admit that Shanks cheated too or lost

 

[HA001]

Exactly. Btw, based on the story Mihawk last interest in Shanks after he lost his arm. But the question is, Why doesn't Mihawk challenge other strong swordsman?

Because he is > Shanks and Shanks is the second strongest.

His vc literally says he dreams of the day someone comes who surpasses Shanks

 

[BleakAsh]

Exactly. Btw, based on the story Mihawk last interest in Shanks after he lost his arm. But the question is, Why doesn't Mihawk challenge other strong swordsman?

According to the viver card, he waits for someone stronger than shanks which puts more substance to their stalemate, but tbh alot of Shanks's current abilities, skills with his sword and strength are left in the dark. Even in an SBS oda "wonders" how Shanks has adapted to his handicap..

What we do know is that Kaido didn't want no smoke with him, his haki is some of the best we have seen to this day and he has likely trained his sole arm to be able to make it in the ranks of people who likely would have whooped kaido.

So there us a alot to look forward to with regards to both of these rivals.

 

[nik87]

Shanks splitting skies with WB clears every zoro feat
EOS Zoro >> shanks is obvious tho, no problem with that

Equal clash with healthy WB is enough
Not to mention stopping war and scaring admiral away

How much damage does a sky split do to Kaido?
According to their clash, not enough to leave a scar which brings us back to Zoro having better feats than Shanks and we encountered a double standard...

 

[soheilhazrat]

How much damage does a sky split do to Kaido?
According to their clash, not enough to leave a scar which brings us back to Zoro having better feats than Shanks and we encountered a double standard...

http://imgur.com/a/PYjTzZz

 

[NikaInParis]

http://imgur.com/a/PYjTzZz

Post the real panel of Mihawk in 5 different poses behind Goofy

 

[Lor D. Coast]

This is for the people who think WSS is about skill and not strength

If Skill is what makes WSS then winning the fight against WSS isn’t important right?

That means it’s possible for Oda to write Zoro losing his final fight as long as he is still given the title of WSS simply because he has MORE SKILL…right?

Skill or strength memes aside a final clash between Zoro and Mihawk and Oda not showing how it ends and later we are told that Zoro won and Mihawk is back in his castle.

 

[L55]

Same reason why no one wants Luffy vs Shanks.

What has mihawk vs zoro to do with luffy and shanks?
Even when zoro got acoc we still got the flashback "until i defeat that man"

 

[roronoa_fan]

Mihawk never defeated shanks so

No, that doesn't mean Mihawk beat Shanks ever.

剣を業とする全ての者が畏れる"鷹の目"は、かつて刃を交えた"赤髪"を凌ぐ使い手の到来を、未来に見据えている・・・!!
Every swordman fears "Hawk-Eye." He looks forward to the arrival of a swordman who can surpass his rival "Red Hair," with whom he crossed blades in the past.

If they've dueled in the past and Mihawk is the strongest, the conclusion that Shanks lost is logical.

 

[Boiroy]

Tbh, it's high time that we see some feats from Mihawk.
Although I do believe that Mihawk>Handicap Shanks>Kaido n BM.

But it's very frustrating to argue without feats, it's just the bounty and title we can go with and yes SH's vice captain feats who'll one day surpass him.

 

[Buggy D Clown]

Exactly. Btw, based on the story Mihawk last interest in Shanks after he lost his arm. But the question is, Why doesn't Mihawk challenge other strong swordsman?

Why would the strongest challenge others?

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

It's about winning fights against other swordsmen

Since you're fishing for it:
No, that doesn't mean Mihawk beat Shanks ever.

Shanks isn’t a swordsman

 

[Erkan12]

According to ZKKboys who run crying after ZKK failure:

- Mihawk is a swordsman
- Shanks is a swordsman
- Mihawk is more skilled as a swordsman since Brannew said it.

Then how Mihawk failed to defeat Shanks despite having an edge in skill department?

Thats like 1 DF user can use awakening the other DF user can't use awakening but somehow awakening user can't beat the other, how?

If the non-awakening DF user has other techniques or greater Haki that would make sense.

Either:
- Shanks has other fighting styles that can neutralize Mihawk's skill advantage and Mihawk can't beat him.

- Or Shanks has greater Haki so he can neutralize Mihawk's skill advantage and Mihawk can't beat him.

- Or Mihawk become WGS without needing to defeat his swordsman rival, if that makes sense to you then Zolo doesn't need to defeat Mihawk as well.

Oh about this

Skill,strength,and haki are individually integral factors in swordsmanship

So being WSS is not only about Skill that woukd be dumb

Rather the question would be when did he become WSS.. And how come even with superior skill he left his "legendary" battle with Shanks unsettled
And if its unsettled, doesn't that mean he became the WSS before his stalemate fights with Shanks?

Good thing I mentioned this before ZKKboys were in delusion that they believe it doesn't say ''settle''.

If they've dueled in the past and Mihawk is the strongest, the conclusion that Shanks lost is logical.

I will remain on the sideline laughing at those who thinks "skilled" is what made Mihawk the "strongest" swordman. They all fail to comprehend that this fight between Zoro and Mihawk isn't about just skill. When the 1st thing Zoro noticed during his attempt to fight Mihawk was "Strength gap" not skill gap. Even during the timeskip Zoro never came with any new skills or techniques only "stronger" versions of his set.

Let them keep denying it. This is one of the longest debates this series have introduced. A 20years+ in the making. Soon Soon.

Its ''Strongest only in swordsmanship'', too bad ZKKboys keep spamming this 'strongest' shit but it doesn't make a different title, its only for swordsmanship, you don't become stronger in every area only in sword skill area you can become strongest.

The title is also called ''greatest swordsman'' many times for a reason, ''Dai Kengou'' not saikyo shit.

Called 'greatest' , 'dai kengou' many times:

Which is why VIZ even translate it as Greatest in here to make it consistent and not let users get confused because the title was called Greatest before but it says Saikyo here still VIZ called it Greatest in here because thats more accurate translation because you don't say strongest marksman in English you say greatest marksman in English. Its all same.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

You mean just like Mihawk received the WSS title without defeating anyone?

@Master OF Haki
Who told you Mihawk didn’t defeat anyone? Find the panel of that

 

[L55]

According to ZKKboys who run crying after ZKK failure:

- Mihawk is a swordsman
- Shanks is a swordsman
- Mihawk is more skilled as a swordsman since Brannew said it.

Then how Mihawk failed to defeat Shanks despite having an edge in skill department?

Thats like 1 DF user can use awakening the other DF user can't use awakening but somehow awakening user can't beat the other, how?

If the non-awakening DF user has other techniques or greater Haki that would make sense.

Either:
- Shanks has other fighting styles that can neutralize Mihawk's skill advantage and Mihawk can't beat him.

- Or Shanks has greater Haki so he can neutralize Mihawk's skill advantage and Mihawk can't beat him.

- Or Mihawk become WGS without needing to defeat his swordsman rival, if that makes sense to you then Zolo doesn't need to defeat Mihawk as well.


Good thing I mentioned this before ZKKboys were in delusion that they believe it doesn't say ''settle''.



''Strongest in swordsmanship'' too bad ZKKboys keep spamming this shit but it doesn't make a different title.

The title is also called ''greatest swordsman'' many times for a reason, ''Dai Kengou'' not saikyo shit.

Which is why VIZ even translate it as Greatest in here to make it consistent and not let users get confused because the title was called Greatest before but it says Saikyo here still VIZ called it Greatest in here because thats more accurate translation ;

Cry u are scared of z vs mihawk
Im wondering how u gonna donwplay when they spliy the sky

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Strongest in swordsmanship'

What does this mean? Does it mean Mihawk can defeat every swordsman on the planet? Or does it mean Zoro can become WSS without defeating mihawk?

 

[HA001]

According to ZKKboys who run crying after ZKK failure:

- Mihawk is a swordsman
- Shanks is a swordsman
- Mihawk is more skilled as a swordsman since Brannew said it.

Then how Mihawk failed to defeat Shanks despite having an edge in skill department?

Thats like 1 DF user can use awakening the other DF user can't use awakening but somehow awakening user can't beat the other, how?

If the non-awakening DF user has other techniques or greater Haki that would make sense.

Either:
- Shanks has other fighting styles that can neutralize Mihawk's skill advantage and Mihawk can't beat him.

- Or Shanks has greater Haki so he can neutralize Mihawk's skill advantage and Mihawk can't beat him.

- Or Mihawk become WGS without needing to defeat his swordsman rival, if that makes sense to you then Zolo doesn't need to defeat Mihawk as well.


Good thing I mentioned this before ZKKboys were in delusion that they believe it doesn't say ''settle''.



Its ''Strongest only in swordsmanship'', too bad ZKKboys keep spamming this 'strongest' shit but it doesn't make a different title, its only for swordsmanship, you don't become stronger in every area only in sword skill area you can become strongest.

The title is also called ''greatest swordsman'' many times for a reason, ''Dai Kengou'' not saikyo shit.

Called greatest 'dai kengou' many times:

Which is why VIZ even translate it as Greatest in here to make it consistent and not let users get confused because the title was called Greatest before but it says Saikyo here still VIZ called it Greatest in here because thats more accurate translation ;

That's because viz was shit translations then lmfao
Stephen Paul's says strongest.

The title is Introduced as WORLDS STRONGEST
He is both the greatest and strongest swordsman

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

If Mihawk admits his inferiority.

@BleakAsh You mean Mihawk will just look at Zoro and tell Zoro is “more skilled” than he is and renounce his title?

 

[NikaInParis]