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Except the cult leader in this game has an ability called eradicate according to the wiki. Its possible the twerk is he can't use it till they have 4 members and he can ice 2 people with it.
So kills 2 at night, we lynch, replenish, kills 2 at night if we didn't get cult leader, we can lose 4 to 5 in a 2 night span if we mess up.
So kills 2 at night, we lynch, replenish, kills 2 at night if we didn't get cult leader, we can lose 4 to 5 in a 2 night span if we mess up.
I was trying to play the music you linked while I read the plan - which imo is shit - but apparently I can’t multitask like that on mobile 
Anyways. I highly disagree with this plan. The town’s most powerful weapon is lynching. How else are we going to find the cult leader if we don’t start lynching? Especially now when we have Queen as top suspect
If you’re right that there is 3 cult members currently with one of them being Nat who converted, Queen is most likely one of the OG 2. 1 in 2 chances of stopping the cult leader right now and you’re telling us to not lynch anyone?
Anyways. I highly disagree with this plan. The town’s most powerful weapon is lynching. How else are we going to find the cult leader if we don’t start lynching? Especially now when we have Queen as top suspect
If you’re right that there is 3 cult members currently with one of them being Nat who converted, Queen is most likely one of the OG 2. 1 in 2 chances of stopping the cult leader right now and you’re telling us to not lynch anyone?
Which I mentioned in my plan. It means that; We look for the Cult Leader in the first 2 days. If he kills 2 of his own, then that makes it so much easier. Because we 100% will find him in the first 2 days, in a game this inactive.
How? We lynch someone, and the next day or the day after, they're replaced and we're down 1 town. But we don't know who.
We need consistent reads Kiwi. How can you even be sure who is townie right now? Only when Cult is full can we start to be sure of who's who.
IMO, lynching in this game helps the scum a lot more than us.
We are dealing with a hydra and you people want to keep lobbing off heads.
I was trying to play the music you linked while I read the plan - which imo is shit - but apparently I can’t multitask like that on mobile
Anyways. I highly disagree with this plan. The town’s most powerful weapon is lynching. How else are we going to find the cult leader if we don’t start lynching? Especially now when we have Queen as top suspect
If you’re right that there is 3 cult members currently with one of them being Nat who converted, Queen is most likely one of the OG 2. 1 in 2 chances of stopping the cult leader right now and you’re telling us to not lynch anyone?
Anyways. I highly disagree with this plan. The town’s most powerful weapon is lynching. How else are we going to find the cult leader if we don’t start lynching? Especially now when we have Queen as top suspect
If you’re right that there is 3 cult members currently with one of them being Nat who converted, Queen is most likely one of the OG 2. 1 in 2 chances of stopping the cult leader right now and you’re telling us to not lynch anyone?
We need consistent reads Kiwi. How can you even be sure who is townie right now? Only when Cult is full can we start to be sure of who's who.
IMO, lynching in this game helps the scum a lot more than us.
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We are dealing with a hydra and you people want to keep lobbing off heads.
If the cult leader doesn't target his own people, it helps us because now the reads we'll get—consistent and clean and full of delightful questions—will be narrowed down with 2 townies dead.
And once we're reasonably sure who the Maf is?
Bam, Prince kills one. We lynch another at night. next day we lynch 1 more.
We can counter them so much faster if we just NOT LYNCH for a 2 days or so and try to focus on the reads.
And once we're reasonably sure who the Maf is?
Bam, Prince kills one. We lynch another at night. next day we lynch 1 more.
We can counter them so much faster if we just NOT LYNCH for a 2 days or so and try to focus on the reads.
I can't see how we'll win this game at the current pace beyond maybe dumb luck.
We have 1 dead TI and 2 TI claims out there. Both mostly verified.
This means we're probably out of other invest roles. So, we need to rely on reads. But the only way we'll win this way is if we stay one step ahead of Cult.
To put it into perspective, we will always have a better chance of lynching Town and the Cult can find ways to hide among trustworthy players. The way I see this game ending is we're just whittling down the number of players in general—town / Scum—and hope we've gotten enough by final 5 or final 3 so we have majority.
Which, when you include players like Flowa? No. I don't see it as possible. I think we'll end up losing majority if we lynch like this.
We have 1 dead TI and 2 TI claims out there. Both mostly verified.
This means we're probably out of other invest roles. So, we need to rely on reads. But the only way we'll win this way is if we stay one step ahead of Cult.
To put it into perspective, we will always have a better chance of lynching Town and the Cult can find ways to hide among trustworthy players. The way I see this game ending is we're just whittling down the number of players in general—town / Scum—and hope we've gotten enough by final 5 or final 3 so we have majority.
Which, when you include players like Flowa? No. I don't see it as possible. I think we'll end up losing majority if we lynch like this.
I don't know about this..
Being passive is like playing in scum hands. And we also have Neutrals in this game and not just cult.
And,just look at 5 cult abilties on wiki. They can easily mess up Townie especially if we remain passive. Once they got 3 -4 members then they would be like general Mafia we had in earlier games and we would be like sitting duck.
And worse part is we will remain clueless because we won't be lynching anyone especially when there is sus and counter sus going on which need to be resolved
NW claim queen is cult
Queen sus DA,Nat, and TAC
DA sus queen
Nat sus queen and NW
It's really important to resolve this because if unresolved then we would be revolving in circles..and, only way to do so is Lynch.
And, let me remind you @TheAncientCenturion that the reason we (including you)avoided lynching flower yesterday was because she is fool. Lynching a fool before day 3 means there won't be trial for one or two days which is harmful for townie.
In short, townie lynching jester like fool makes townie pay for it by no trials and benefit scums including both cult and Neutrals.
I don't agree with this idea
Being passive is like playing in scum hands. And we also have Neutrals in this game and not just cult.
And,just look at 5 cult abilties on wiki. They can easily mess up Townie especially if we remain passive. Once they got 3 -4 members then they would be like general Mafia we had in earlier games and we would be like sitting duck.
And worse part is we will remain clueless because we won't be lynching anyone especially when there is sus and counter sus going on which need to be resolved
NW claim queen is cult
Queen sus DA,Nat, and TAC
DA sus queen
Nat sus queen and NW
It's really important to resolve this because if unresolved then we would be revolving in circles..and, only way to do so is Lynch.
And, let me remind you @TheAncientCenturion that the reason we (including you)avoided lynching flower yesterday was because she is fool. Lynching a fool before day 3 means there won't be trial for one or two days which is harmful for townie.
In short, townie lynching jester like fool makes townie pay for it by no trials and benefit scums including both cult and Neutrals.
I don't agree with this idea
Vote Queen
Kiwi i have started to sus you not being a Good King.
I think Queen targeting DA bt not going strongly after him could be bussing. This is D3, we lost our advantage to Cult members nw. And its optimum they use Sacrificial strategies.
Also wouldn't put aside that they may try to act fool on purpose, like Queen few posts felt somewhat to me.
I did like Tac reply to Reborn case, bt his flipping even tho reasons make sense was scummy. I mean you can still keep the Vote for reactions and take it back later on bt it felt like you were rather playing safely. You posts last days seems to me like preparwd ones. And only reason i can't completely clear Flowet as Fool is because you were the one that first suggested it.
Reborn case was also weak on tac, it's not unusual for him to questions players that have already voived their reasons. Maybe he wanted a reactn, for nw i would give him the benefit of doubt as trying his best being a Townie. We also can at times become biased against players we sus and read what we want to. So i can understand his post.
Krogothwolf posts appear to me of townie, bt i kept a chck on those who jumped on Nat bandwagon and he also did the same.
And i can vouch for Nat not being converted N2.
Kiwi i have started to sus you not being a Good King.
I think Queen targeting DA bt not going strongly after him could be bussing. This is D3, we lost our advantage to Cult members nw. And its optimum they use Sacrificial strategies.
Also wouldn't put aside that they may try to act fool on purpose, like Queen few posts felt somewhat to me.
I did like Tac reply to Reborn case, bt his flipping even tho reasons make sense was scummy. I mean you can still keep the Vote for reactions and take it back later on bt it felt like you were rather playing safely. You posts last days seems to me like preparwd ones. And only reason i can't completely clear Flowet as Fool is because you were the one that first suggested it.
Reborn case was also weak on tac, it's not unusual for him to questions players that have already voived their reasons. Maybe he wanted a reactn, for nw i would give him the benefit of doubt as trying his best being a Townie. We also can at times become biased against players we sus and read what we want to. So i can understand his post.
Krogothwolf posts appear to me of townie, bt i kept a chck on those who jumped on Nat bandwagon and he also did the same.
And i can vouch for Nat not being converted N2.
So you think blindly lynching is the way to go? Because we are DIRECTIONLESS and every day we need to think of who can and can't be trusted! We're going in blind and giving scum time to make a plan, to convert key players to hide among us. I can't see this benefiting us.
We'll lose majority this way unless we get lucky. But we can't predict luck.
At least with my strat, we force Cult into max. occupancy and then we can try to scum read. Prince dies? Okay. If we can pinpoint 3 Cult players via this plan and take them out in rapid succession? We have a much better chance of victory. And we have good reason to believe Mafia doesn't have factionkill yet. So we're in even less danger.
We'll lose majority this way unless we get lucky. But we can't predict luck.
At least with my strat, we force Cult into max. occupancy and then we can try to scum read. Prince dies? Okay. If we can pinpoint 3 Cult players via this plan and take them out in rapid succession? We have a much better chance of victory. And we have good reason to believe Mafia doesn't have factionkill yet. So we're in even less danger.
Okay, so how is this working out for us though?
We can't trust anyone right now. The most trustworthy guy is NeutralWatcher and I'm not 100% sold he isn't converted right now.
If we let Cult do their thing and convert, we will have the same group of scum interacting, making lies, and being inconsistent for a few days. We can draw on patterns. And once we have enough clues to indicate who is who—assuming we can't rely on TIs—we act.
Because honestly, I'm speaking fully truthfully right now. I don't think I'll be able to reliably scum read the later on in this game we go. It feels like we're just going to hit more unknowns if we let Cult constantly shuffle members into their group. It'll call into question everything anyone says and each day is almost completely isolated when it comes to reads.
We can't keep consistency in the current set up. And without reliable TIs, we need consistency to scum read.
We can't trust anyone right now. The most trustworthy guy is NeutralWatcher and I'm not 100% sold he isn't converted right now.
If we let Cult do their thing and convert, we will have the same group of scum interacting, making lies, and being inconsistent for a few days. We can draw on patterns. And once we have enough clues to indicate who is who—assuming we can't rely on TIs—we act.
Because honestly, I'm speaking fully truthfully right now. I don't think I'll be able to reliably scum read the later on in this game we go. It feels like we're just going to hit more unknowns if we let Cult constantly shuffle members into their group. It'll call into question everything anyone says and each day is almost completely isolated when it comes to reads.
We can't keep consistency in the current set up. And without reliable TIs, we need consistency to scum read.
We'll lose majority the same way unless we get lucky. We also have no idea if our King is good King which could kill our lynch at one point if its a cult king.
We are playing blind and giving up the lynch because you want to play as a tortoise which limits are ability to do so.
You're being way to quick to give up one of towns weapons because you want to play it safe, mafia isn't about being safe, safe gets town slaughtered.
How do you vouch for Nat?
We are playing blind and giving up the lynch because you want to play as a tortoise which limits are ability to do so.
You're being way to quick to give up one of towns weapons because you want to play it safe, mafia isn't about being safe, safe gets town slaughtered.
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How do you vouch for Nat?
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