[FNZ] Salem of Lies Round 09: Throne of Lies

[Dark Admiral]

Cinera Vs Sera is going to be troublesome cause Cinera hasn’t been active in the game today.
Queen is going to be the least risky lynch if we don’t get enough on Sera Vs cinera.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

natallija also claims to have investigated nuetral last night
and she thinks he's seeker.

So let me get this straight....

Yo Tan verifies Nat.
Nat claims she invested NeutralWatcher.
NeutralWatcher claims he invested Queen.

So, NeutralWatcher is almost the key to understanding Queen's affiliation, whether or not Nat can be trusted and then whether or not Yo Tan can be trusted.

 

[Reborn]

Cinera Vs Sera is going to be troublesome cause Cinera hasn’t been active in the game today.
Queen is going to be the least risky lynch if we don’t get enough on Sera Vs cinera.

What you think of tac weird game play?

 

[Dark Admiral]

Also Drago coming in to clear NW name would still mean Queen is scummy due to her debates after being falsely accused.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

natallija also claims to have investigated nuetral last night
and she thinks he's seeker.

It's her opinion tho, both Paledkn n Seeker belong to same class, so her Night ability don't help much.

 

[Dark Admiral]

What you think of tac weird game play?

As you said it Weird. But I would hate to believe him being a cult though. His no lynch strategy also made some sense in few grounds and must be pretty painful to come up with such strategy so he’s clear in my view.
Queen never questioning him after the physician claim puts extra point on him.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

So let me get this straight....

Yo Tan verifies Nat.
Nat claims she invested NeutralWatcher.
NeutralWatcher claims he invested Queen.

So, NeutralWatcher is almost the key to understanding Queen's affiliation, whether or not Nat can be trusted and then whether or not Yo Tan can be trusted.

yes
but neutral said his results changed.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

@Yo Tan Wa what you think of cinera and flower situation?

I first suspected both Flower n Tac cult members working together.
Then Flower acting Scorn D2 to keep us into thinking she was Fool acting Scorn so to not get lynched.

Bt with so many claims everything messed up. Didn't sus Cinera as much last Night phase, bt since he was inactive today, thought he might be converted last Night, hence quoted hkm to get his opinion. Don't think Cinera used Flower, if he was Fool he would have achived getting Lynched anyway.
Bt Sera n Cinera nw, it could also be Cult relying on sacrificial strategies, Hence Sera could have claimed Butler role.

Problm with all this is Queen gameplay also was unusual rhat would bave cleared Tac as cult. None of the things so far are going in our favoue.
Our Investigative Users are susing each others when they shpuld be sussing major sus, and so many role have been claimed.

 

[NeutralWatcher]

@Dragomir

Can you clarify about the mistake you made on my Night Action result?

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

So Sera claims Butler.

Tac why are you highlighting it?

Initially I did. But when going back to make my strategy, I went to the wiki to quote the killing powers. I saw the cooldown and decided that Nat's statement is a lot less suspicious because of that. Her early insistence on Unseen / not trusting NeutralWatcher early on is off. Because, IMO, it was good to trust NeutralWatcher before this kerfuffle expanded alongside his own self doubt

Not convinced.

Also i only see you saying Cool down period, is this TMI?

I'll accept that my strategy is unorthodox. But let's look at the deck we've been handed Yotan. We can't trust our two TI claims. I just skimmed the last 8 pages and it seems NeutralWatcher's even less of a solid source now? There's some issue with messed up results, he claims? As of last night, Nat was a big source of suspicion.

So, in my remedy to this, we manage to play in a way that let's not rely on TI. But on consistent reads.

No i mean why you didn't cross check, question Queen who claimed your role?

o, NeutralWatcher is almost the key to understanding Queen's affiliation, whether or not Nat can be trusted and then whether or not Yo Tan can be trusted.

Are you suggesting lynching NW?

Also, Tac you didn't reply to my previous post? Kiwi don't agree her Gameplay changed, what towncleared her for you in D3.

 

[Dragomir]

@Dragomir

Can you clarify about the mistake you made on my Night Action result?

Yes, I did make a mistake.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I got a couple notifications in pm rn

the troll box is just one post not the entire day. I also got info that can confirm
neutral results were miscalculated


unvote
Vote lynch natalijat

 

[NeutralWatcher]

Yes, I did make a mistake.

No problem then. Good to know. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Finalbeta]

So there's indeed a chance a role has framed Flower? But can this apply with Queen as well?

In that case my primary suspect would be Cinera since him and Sera claimed the same role however the former observed the weirdest behaviour in the game so far

 

[Ena]

Yes, I did make a mistake.

@Kiwipom @Finalbeta

 

[Dark Admiral]

I got a couple notifications in pm rn

the troll box is just one post not the entire day. I also got info that can confirm
neutral results were miscalculated


unvote
Vote lynch natalijat

Wait what..?? Didn’t you trusted Yo Tan wa’s decision before..??

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

after

Wait what..?? Didn’t you trusted Yo Tan wa’s decision before..??

trust me here
I received changes to my actions in pm too which is why I was so sure.

 

[Finalbeta]

Yes, I did make a mistake.

Unvote

Vote Lynch Cinera

Maybe the picture will be more clear now

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

@Kiwipom @Finalbeta

queen natallijat
I will have yall take a look at her defense in tac in the meantime

 

[Natalija]

This is just weird.

NW flipfloppin

Nata isn't credible to me

Sera claims cinera is lying

Queen and tac claimed physician but queen wanted DA to get lynched first while tac wanted no Lynch at all

Now let's assume there is can't be duplication then definitely
Between queen and tac - one is LYING

Between - sera and cinera one is lying.

And,our invest reads aren't credible

Now, if I consider timing of sera claim then if he was cult then he could have simply taken back seat with already big mess going on.

But instead he proactive claimed cinera is lying. This doesn't sound like scummy.

Infact, I actually believe sera because if cinera doesn't flip Butlersl then he would be branded as sus yet instead of hiding under such messy situation, he claimed cinera is lying. This doesn't seem to be scummy game play


So, Vote lynch cinera

Your logic is all over the place, this is why I think you’re dodgy.

It got me Mis-Lynched.

Hehehe, clever answer.

No, they did not surely convert two players. They might have targeted conversion immune players, they might have been redirected, they might have been Role Blocked. There are many ways the night interactions could have played out so far, and there's not much reason to assume that Cult was able to successfully convert both nights.
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That’s a lot of might haves, my friend. As I said, there are a lot of players, so it’s not that hard to pick two BY LUCK EVEN and convert them. It’s a scenario we should go by instead of being optimistic.