Character Discussion Why Kid's loss is genuinely infuriating and Shanks is a trash, unrealistic utopia character created by the delusional daydreams of a weakling nerd

He doesn’t like needless violence, but he is not opposed to it when push comes to shove
That's exactly what every generic superhero is like. Superman also uses violence to stop criminals when it comes down to it. Oda will only ever show shanks using "violence" once he has established that the other person is the bad guy first in order to justify shanks as the hero and good guy. The difference is, the writer of superman doesn't pretend that superman is someone he's not, he is what he is meant to be, a hero. Oda however pretends that shanks is a pirate when he's really just a superhero in disguise. Shanks being a pirate makes 0 sense in the first place. He should be a revolutionary
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If it was Kidd here he would have immediately killed Bellamy, this sets the likes of Straw Hats, Blackbeard Pirates and Red Hair Pirates appart from any other pirate.

yeah kid would have killed his and thats exactly what bellamy deserved. Bellamy wasn't some innocent civilian, he was an evil, violent pirate and would beat people up over a gambling game. What's so strange about a pirate killing another pirate that attacked him lol, that is completely normal for pirates. In fact, pirates dont even need a reason to kill other pirates anyway, people become pirates to fight other pirates in the first place lmao. Oda should've made the series about superheroes instead if even pirates defending themselves against other pirates is "evil" now
 
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So kids has his crew that has 1 worth while member vs shanks who had his crew that has several worth while members few of them are most likely high tier and a group of gaints and before we found how weak the fleet was a whole fleet of veteran pirate crews, you thought kid was goner win? thats stupid, don't complain about how the story didn't go way because you were being stupid.

Also Everything you said in your post is stupid.
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All that attacking oda as person is funny because oda Is the biggest mangaka in past 20 years and the top 3 all time and his manga is rivalling batman and superman with sales and who is a multi millionaire, your so pist that the story didn't go your way you attack oda as person who achieved way more than most will ever will and he will leave his mark on entertainment history and easily the history of a whole country of Japan that's pathetic your pathetic.
 
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That's exactly what every generic superhero is like. Superman also uses violence to stop criminals when it comes down to it. Oda will only ever show shanks using "violence" once he has established that the other person is the bad guy first in order to justify shanks as the hero and good guy. The difference is, the writer of superman doesn't pretend that superman is someone he's not, he is what he is meant to be, a hero. Oda however pretends that shanks is a pirate when he's really just a superhero in disguise. Shanks being a pirate makes 0 sense in the first place. He should be a revolutionary
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yeah kid would have killed his and thats exactly what bellamy deserved. Bellamy wasn't some innocent civilian, he was an evil, violent pirate and would beat people up over a gambling game. What's so strange about a pirate killing another pirate that attacked him lol, that is completely normal for pirates. In fact, pirates dont even need a reason to kill other pirates anyway, people become pirates to fight other pirates in the first place lmao. Oda should've made the series about superheroes instead if even pirates defending themselves against other pirates is "evil" now
Shanks isn't out to correct the world's injustices or anything. He's a chill guy, but if you hurt his friends he will hit back.

Don't see what the huge issue is
 
That's exactly what every generic superhero is like. Superman also uses violence to stop criminals when it comes down to it. Oda will only ever show shanks using "violence" once he has established that the other person is the bad guy first in order to justify shanks as the hero and good guy. The difference is, the writer of superman doesn't pretend that superman is someone he's not, he is what he is meant to be, a hero. Oda however pretends that shanks is a pirate when he's really just a superhero in disguise. Shanks being a pirate makes 0 sense in the first place. He should be a revolutionary
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yeah kid would have killed his and thats exactly what bellamy deserved. Bellamy wasn't some innocent civilian, he was an evil, violent pirate and would beat people up over a gambling game. What's so strange about a pirate killing another pirate that attacked him lol, that is completely normal for pirates. In fact, pirates dont even need a reason to kill other pirates anyway, people become pirates to fight other pirates in the first place lmao. Oda should've made the series about superheroes instead if even pirates defending themselves against other pirates is "evil" now
You just have a weird idea of what it means to be a pirate. In one piece piracy is about freedom which is the kind of pirates shanks and luffy are.

Kids problem was he had an ego problem and got humbled.
 
Lol imagine believing Kidd was ever important to the story, I certainly never did.

Oda never fails to trap readers into sticking to characters who aren't important to the grand scheme of things but are believed to be by readers just because Oda gave them a moment to shine. Characters like that are dime a dozen in One Piece and Eustass Captain Kidd is no different.
 
That scene in Jaya was the worst and most inconsistent scene in the whole manga. Luffy has no problem in attacking absolutely anyone that mildly insults him or gets in his way. Never has there been a single instance since jaya where luffy refuses to fighting someone that attacks him because it "isnt worth it". The scene is one big outlier to force a parallel with the scene with shanks
This has to be one of the stupidest comments on this forum. Blackbeard of ALL people was the one complimenting them for not fighting
 
Kids problem was he had an ego problem and got humbled.
I don't know how little reading comprehension or attention spans people have to not understand that Kidd tried to fight Shanks, his crew, his fleet and two giants on home turf at once.

And all he had was himself and Killer.

And no, people do not even need to bring up Luffy fighting the odds considering he does in fact get a lot of help.
 
the kid is trash, how you gaslit yourself into believing he was going to be anything more than a hype tool is beyond me.
hopefully he can join the very short list of deaths in this story.
failing that then hopefully he retires from piracy and stars a vineyard.
 
So kids has his crew that has 1 worth while member vs shanks who had his crew that has several worth while members few of them are most likely high tier and a group of gaints and before we found how weak the fleet was a whole fleet of veteran pirate crews, you thought kid was goner win? thats stupid, don't complain about how the story didn't go way because you were being stupid.

Also Everything you said in your post is stupid.
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All that attacking oda as person is funny because oda Is the biggest mangaka in past 20 years and the top 3 all time and his manga is rivalling batman and superman with sales and who is a multi millionaire, your so pist that the story didn't go your way you attack oda as person who achieved way more than most will ever will and he will leave his mark on entertainment history and easily the history of a whole country of Japan that's pathetic your pathetic.
Sales means nothing much
People like you are the reason why Oda can continue writing nonsense or making retcons that are silly but he knows you and other fans will love it and give our excuses

Who doesn't know he's the biggest mangaka in term of sales?
Does that change his writings being subpar since WCi second half? NOPE
 
You just have a weird idea of what it means to be a pirate. In one piece piracy is about freedom which is the kind of pirates shanks and luffy are.

Kids problem was he had an ego problem and got humbled.
Luffy is about freedom, Shanks is not. Shanks has an obsession of wanting everything to be controlled. Shanks didn't want ace going after blackbeard because he didn't want the world to "spiral in to chaos". That's why he's also talking with the gorosei. Shanks never tried to take down a yonko. Thats because he wants a system to be in place. Hes not about freedom, Shanks wants peace. His character suits a superhero, not a pirate. Luffy on the other hand doesnt care about creating conflict or breaking the system, his priority is his freedom not peace
 
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