Current Events Fujitora kills Mihawk and steals his title

Honk! Honk!

Since when they said Shanks is just a swordsman and nothing more? Never. Not even Oda said it in SBS.
The fact he always pull out a sword in confrontation. The fact his jolly roger is a sword.

That skill title means nothing.
Nah, it's a strength title.

It's confirmed that Vista is close to mihawk and Shanks is on a different level than Vista.
Only thing confirmed is Mihawk didn't go 100%.
 
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They are just funny, they just can't accept the fact Luffy >>>> Zoro, and mihawk is no where near Yonko level like Shanks.
They will say zoro = luffy Or nearly equal even when they arent.

yet cant accept the fact Mihawk and shanks were equal only in the past

Now it is a toss up and shanks looks better while Mihawk is oftenly placed with high tiers and cnt show superiority.
 
The fact he always pull out a sword in confrontation. The fact his jolly roger is a sword.

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Is this your evidence.... :suresure: Pathetic.

Look what Oda says;

Question: ''What's the name of Red-Haired Shanks's sword? -P.N. Kooshi''
Eiichiro Oda: ''Apparently it's called Griffon. We've known Shanks ever since the first chapter, but how does he actually fight?''
--- SBS Volume 87


Since you don't know better than Oda, you're simply lying.

Nah, it's a strength title.
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Physical strength?
Haki?
Speed?

Wtf :milaugh:

Every fighter need those, not only swordsman.

Thus that title is for swordsmanship only. Sorry to dissapoint your swordsman dreams.

Zoro novel clearly tells us that WSS title has nothing to do with power levels.

Zoro Novel: ''One marine claims that the strongest swordsman in the world is definitely Mihawk, the other marine claims it's Zoro. They witnessed their sword techniques in marineford and dressrosa. Mihawk cut down gigantic ice block. Zoro cut down gigantic Pica. They start talking about other candidates: Vista, Shanks and Ryuuma. A marine says Vista was able to fight Mihawk equally for a short moment. Ryuma is strong, but he is already dead. According to another marine, Shanks is said to be the rival of Mihawk. He faced Akainu without fear. 2 of the marines have heard that Shanks is a very strong swordsman. But another marine says it's not that Shanks showed his great technique with his sword in Marineford.''
--- Translation by Sandman



In here, they said WSS title has nothing to do with power. They compared a Yonko commander to a Yonko, and DR Luffy's sidekick DR Zoro to a Yonko.

What we learned from here that WSS is based on skill not power.

Only thing confirmed is Mihawk didn't go 100%.
mihawk asks permission from vista to postpone the duel.

marco sends vista alone to stop mihawk.

These two alone enough to prove mihawk isn't superior to Vista. Let alone databook which said Vista = mihawk.
 

Light D Lamperouge

𝖂𝖍𝖆𝖙 𝕮𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝕳𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝕭𝖊𝖊𝖓
@Light D Lamperouge

You're pathetic. :suresure: The guy posted the true translation, it says ''former'' rival.

You think Shanks and mihawk are still rivals?

Shanks: you come here to duel?
mihawk: *he makes an excuse*

There is no rivalry anymore.

Even Kaido and Big mom are better rivals, they fight whenever they want.

mihawk accepted vista as a rival when the moment he recognized his sword skills and he proposed to postpone the duel, meaning that they will duel with vista in the future, they are rivals.

You lost your mind if you think mihawk was superior to vista when he asks permission to postpone the duel. :milaugh:

Kuina?

That's dumb, because Kuina believes men are superior to women in everything, not only sword. If Kuina was a martial artist she would say the same things, lmao. Swordsmanship is just a fighting style, stop being dumb. :giogio:

Fujitora,

Even the translator said mihawk doesn't beat Fujitora due to his sword title :steef:

''Shanks a Yonko, pulling out his sword in every on panel clash/fight/preparation for a fight ''

This is really retarded. :tchpepe: You think you know everything about Shanks? Because he stopped Akainu and challenged WB? What if WB did the same with his bisento when he stopped Akainu? You were going to say WB has nothing but his bisento because that's what they showed us.

Even E.Oda says Shanks' fighting style is a mystery, you on ther other hand, Zoro mihawk troll believe that you know everything about Shanks because that retarded logic helps you to wank Zoro / mihawk. :gokulaugh:
Lmao, how stupid can a person be? This is the translation , learn how to read.

What excuse? Mihawk told him I do not fight one-armed has-beens.

WTF? Dude you are completely insane, not the mention that Mihawk did that because the marines for preparing to launch their plan, plus it is in Mihawk's character to do things like that, he did the same with Krieg, is Krieg his rival as well? Lmao, if Vista was worth Mihawk's time he would have sought him out later in the war, or even after the war.


how are you this stupid? I mean I know you do not know how to read the manga, but still. Kuina who was beating adults, and Zoro who was beating adults since they were kids. Kuina knows all about the title, and says that she will lose to men in the physical department and cannot be the WSS because of that. The first thing Mihawk taught Zoro was haki, Zoro is still using the same techs he used pre TS, that got him negged against Mihawk, but only their strength increased.


Lmao Fujitora is called a swordsman.

What the fuck? The translator's job is not to tell your dumb ass who would win in a fight, it is to translate the things.

What the hell again?

WB pulled up in MF and quaked the place

Shanks pulled up in MF and pulled out his sword.

What kind of a fighting style does Shanks have? Show me a panel in which Shanks is preparing for a fight and is not using his sword.
 
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Cyrus the Cactus

Mihawk Reigns Supreme
Can someone please explain to me what exactly are exactly are you guys arguing about???
@Erkan12 is convinced that Mihawk's title refers to skill while Whitebeard's refers to strength, despite them both being nearly identical in Japanese. He then says that Japanese isn't such a simple language that comparing the kanji(?) in those two titles is enough to prove that they are, in fact, almost identical.

...even though Stephen Paul said that they were the same thing.
 
Lmao, how stupid can a person be? This is the translation clown, learn how to read you dumbass.

What excuse? Mihawk told him I do not fight one-armed has-beens.
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You just proved that you're

This dumbass seriously believes mihawk underestimates SHANKS.

When he asks permission from VISTA to postpone the duel
And when marco sends Vista ALONE to duel with mihawk
Crocodile solo stops mihawk.

Shanks stops Kaido.
Big mom says that she wanted to defeat Shanks she couldn't.
Shanks challenges WB and he doesn't lose.
Shanks stops Akainu and Akainu pussied out.
Light d dumbass believes mihawk underestimates Shanks

:steef::steef::steef::steef:

Lmao Fujitora is called a swordsman.
Fujitora can be swordsman, sniper, rokushiki master, Ryusoken, Fishmen karate, DF user, karate master, sumo wrestler, boxer.

Is this mean he will lose to a swordsman definitely? Who forbids Fujitora to use other techniques in a battle? No one.

This is why zoro mihawk fanboys like you don't understand the power levels. :kayneshrug:

What kind of a fighting style does Shanks have? Show me a panel in which Shanks is preparing for a fight and is not using his sword.


You are an incredible dense person, who was schooled here by everyone and is only wasting time.
Lmao, you're so dense that you don't understand the fact that Shanks might have use one technique more and mihawk's skill would mean nothing to him.

That's why Shanks is on a different level.

While mihawk is vista level. Shanks is Kaido level.

Stop being dumb. :pepeke:
 
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Then saying ''World's greatest man'' would be a right translation for WB?
No. The reasoning would be that, and correct me if I’m wrong, while “greatest swordsman” can imply that the person is the strongest swordsman, the title “greatest man” seems to be more about the guy’s personality/achievement rather than his strength. So while WGS would still be a somewhat accurate translation, WGM would not be.

So the difference is in English, they used the same description in Japanese.
 
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Is this your evidence.... Honk! Honk! Pathetic.

Look what Oda says;

Question: ''What's the name of Red-Haired Shanks's sword? -P.N. Kooshi''
Eiichiro Oda: ''Apparently it's called Griffon. We've known Shanks ever since the first chapter, but how does he actually fight?''
--- SBS Volume 87


Since you don't know better than Oda, you're simply lying.
So he's asking how does he fight with "Griffon?" If he fights best with Griffon, then he's not stronger than Mihawk.

Physical strength?
Haki?
Speed?

Wtf Honk! Honk!
Based on who can kick who's ass.

Every fighter need those, not only swordsman.
Okay, what's your point.

Thus that title is for swordsmanship only. Sorry to dissapoint your swordsman dreams.

Zoro novel clearly tells us that WSS title has nothing to do with power levels.

Zoro Novel: ''One marine claims that the strongest swordsman in the world is definitely Mihawk, the other marine claims it's Zoro. They witnessed their sword techniques in marineford and dressrosa. Mihawk cut down gigantic ice block. Zoro cut down gigantic Pica. They start talking about other candidates: Vista, Shanks and Ryuuma. A marine says Vista was able to fight Mihawk equally for a short moment. Ryuma is strong, but he is already dead. According to another marine, Shanks is said to be the rival of Mihawk. He faced Akainu without fear. 2 of the marines have heard that Shanks is a very strong swordsman. But another marine says it's not that Shanks showed his great technique with his sword in Marineford.''
--- Translation by Sandman
Where does this prove it has nothing to do with power levels? This is just fodders having a conversation.

In here, they said WSS title has nothing to do with power. They compared a Yonko commander to a Yonko, and DR Luffy's sidekick DR Zoro to a Yonko.
Attaching buzzwords like "sidekick" is not going to make EoS Zoro far from EoS Luffy. It's not going to make Mihawk below Vista.

What we learned from here that WSS is based on skill not power.
Where?

mihawk asks permission from vista to postpone the duel.

marco sends vista alone to stop mihawk.
And his captain thought Jozu was enough for Aokiji. Doesn't mean anything.

These two alone enough to prove mihawk isn't superior to Vista. Let alone databook which said Vista = mihawk.
Which one?
 
Lmao clown.

How do you make a post and not address a single thing in it? Stop quoting me and wasting my time dumbass.


Everything you said was explained and debunked and yet you fail to bring up anything new or even remotely similar to an argument. It should not be surprising though, after all you do not know how to read the manga.

Stop quoting me until you have an actual argument clown, but I do not think that will happen anytime soon.
You lose as always.

You've no way to win this.

You know I am %100 right.

You can be a zoro / mihawk fanboy without wanking their power levels.
 
So he's asking how does he fight with "Griffon?" If he fights best with Griffon, then he's not stronger than Mihawk.
He says ''how does he fight'', lol. Stop adding anything to that sentence.

Based on who can kick who's ass.
Funny.

Is this why mihawk kicked no one's ass in the entire manga history?

Except for fodder Daz Bones and Iva's newkama swordsmen fodders?

:steef:

Okay, what's your point.
You know my fucking point. :sus:

WSS = skill title.

The only difference between WSS title and other titles is sworsmanship skill.

Read Rurouni Kenshin.

Kenshin is the ''strongest man'' in Japan. Not the ''strongest swordsman'' despite being a swordsman, E.Oda was working in that manga series.

Attaching buzzwords like "sidekick" is not going to make EoS Zoro far from EoS Luffy. It's not going to make Mihawk below Vista.
Troll,

Those people were talking about Dressrosa Zoro. Not EoS Zoro.

They compared Dressrosa Zoro to a Yonko.

Every being in One Piece knows Shanks >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dressrosa Zoro.

But they say Dressrosa Zoro might be a stronger swordsman than Shanks.

Do the math.

And his captain thought Jozu was enough for Aokiji. Doesn't mean anything.
He was right.

Aokiji did nothing to Jozu until Jozu got distracted.

What an idiotic counter argument from you, I am not surprised though.


Mihawk asks permission from Vista to postpone the duel.
Marco sends Vista alone to fight with Mihawk.

:steef:
 
No. The reasoning would be that, and correct me if I’m wrong, while “greatest swordsman” can imply that the person is the strongest swordsman, the title “greatest man” seems to be more about the guy’s personality/achievement rather his strength. So while WGS would still be a somewhat accurate translation, WGM would not be.
Though Mihawk does have a title of “世界一の大剣豪”, which means the “world’s No.1 swordsman”.
So the difference is in English, they used the same description in Japanese.
you will lose some cells if you stay at here any longer our lady . you can witness with your own eyes that every kind of creature exist at power level discussion threads. Dont choose the way of Fujitora and protect your eyes from this bullshit for our sake
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