Controversial General Political Discussion

[Adam 🍎]

Headshot for refusing to comply after a roadside check, he pressed on the accelerator and had the car smashed into a wall or whatever at the end of street. No car chase

Killing him was too harsh, but him escaping road check didn't help his situation at all

 

[notAfanboy]

Honest mistakes lul.

He clearly didnt understand even the basics of what he was talking about yet still said all of this nonsense with confidence. He is a joke.

I would like to see his reaction to these mistakes.
Maybe he should just stick to one subject.

 

[Logiko]

Killing him was too harsh, but him escaping road check didn't help his situation at all

He did not escape

The car was in auto. The cops arrested the car. The cops arrived pointing their gun toward the young guys in the car. The three young guys in the car went scared and close three windows but the one on the front. One of the cops said "shoot him, shoot him" while the other one took place in front of the car while banging the young kid's head with the cross. The kid was punched three times, on the third punch, he fainted, the foot realeased the stop pedal. The car took off and the cops in front shot the guys. The car accelerated while the young guy was agonising on the wheel, he went toward a wall and his friend by his side run off out of fear. (this is him who gave the details)

 

[Phoenix D. King]

This is the lie leaders of the west managed to make you believe in.

The right IS the idealist side, the left is the realistic one.

Free Will = Myth
Merit = Myth
You can if you want strong enough = Myth
Work lead to success = Myth

The right dynamic is the idealistic one. The left only fonction based on reality. Why do you think scientists are leaning toward the LEFT side ??

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1674886925474230274

political correctness and risk adversion on your last point

As far as realism vs idealism... there has never been a society remotely like your ideal left one. Every single country, society, etc, remains on the right. Much of the reasoning for this is due to the greed and selfishness of few, but fabricating a "left" society does not rid it of greed.

You are also wrong, success can most definitely be founded in work.

You hold such an extreme perspective on the nature vs nurture debate (which is this entire argument youve made atp), in reality both are responsible for a person's outcomes. Society is not fair, and never will be, so you can either assume your place or learn how to get above. No matter the means.

 

[Adam 🍎]

young kid's head with the cross.

Yeah okay buddy lmfaoooooooo

Sounds fake af

 

[Logiko]

As far as realism vs idealism... there has never been a society remotely like your ideal left one

Well.. Who do you think has the power in a capitalistic society ?

You are also wrong, success can most definitely be founded in work.

Well, sorry to burst your bubble buddy, but this is a myth. The only reason you think that way is because of a thing called survivor bias.

You hold such an extreme perspective on the nature vs nurture debate (which is this entire argument youve made atp

I know, this is why I'm the most radical leftist here. But trust me, I'm not really that radical.

Society is not fair, and never will be

Who told you that lie ?

Yeah okay buddy lmfaoooooooo

Sounds fake af

This is the testimony of one of the guy inside the car in front of justice.

 

[Adam 🍎]

This is the testimony of one of the guy inside the car in front of justice.

Yea because people in the court never lie, esp those that wanna stoke the flames

That is fake af

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Think its mostly due to the religion not being compatible with the society taking in the refugees

What on earth are you talking about

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For some reason, George Floyd's death had the whole West protest. I wonder why the same thing isn't happening for Nahel

probably because everyone cares when anything happens in America

but Americans similarly dgaf about anything happening anywhere else

 

[Logiko]

Yea because people in the court never lie, esp those that wanna stoke the flames

That is fake af

You can literally hear and see the cops on the video bro..

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

probably because everyone cares when anything happens in America

I hope you only mean within the US, because otherwise we both know that's untrue lmao.

 

[Midnight Delight]

I hope you only mean within the US, because otherwise we both know that's untrue lmao.

The Floyd stuff barely got any coverage in my country

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

The Floyd stuff barely got any coverage in my country

Not surprised

 

[Phoenix D. King]

Well, sorry to burst your bubble buddy, but this is a myth. The only reason you think that way is because of a thing called survivor bias.


Who told you that lie ?

Not really, there are exceptions and it isnt guaranteed, but nobody who starts from the bottom can get any higher by lazying around. And it is not guaranteeed, but also not impossible, to work yourself from nothing.
Your arguing that its an absolute truth, that people are destined by their own volition. But its never 100%

 

[Logiko]

Not really, there are exceptions and it isnt guaranteed, but nobody who starts from the bottom can get any higher by lazying around. And it is not guaranteeed, but also not impossible, to work yourself from nothing

Its like saying that a Bomb can land on the ground without exploding. Yes its possible, but it would be a matter of luck.

This and was always a matter of luck.

Let's say that I jump into the illusion of freewill. Well, even there its a matter of luck. In a capitalist society, you can only go so far. We don't have the same chances and most of the time work won't.. work.

If work was enough to get you a good life, people wouldn't be losing their lifespan on factory line work. Sometimes, you are just screwed.

This is why the left exist. We consider that we must even the plainfield. That we must help MORE the ones with the less chances and LESS the ones with a road in front of them.

Because success - right now - is an exception.

 

[Zolo]

 

[Tejas]

That's the thing.. ISIS do fall in a political category:

The Far-right.

Wrong

Yes, this is not instinctive but its the reality. You see, the far right is not only something that contain christianized and puritain people or guys with white hat or Neonazis.

Right is the system that advocates free enterprise and private ownership, and typically favors socially traditional ideas

The far right's structure is fascism and authoritarism:

- Ultranationalism
- LGBTphobia
- Conservatism
- Reactionnarism
- Sexism
- Hierachism
- Conspiracy theorism
- Antisemitism
- Terrorism
- Xenophobia
- Cult of personnality

All of those are the structure of fascism but also the structure of the far right anywhere in the world.

Wrong. Right favors moralism, traditionalism and order. The structures of right are Religion, society, free enterprise and meritocracy

ISIS IS Far Right, just like Russia or China ARE Far right.

Wrong. ISIS uncategorized. Russia and CHina are products of the Left

That's the great things leaders like The orange punpkin, Putin, Khamenei or even Xi Jinpin managed to hide to guys like you. The far right, anywhere in the world is the SAME. It just change faces.

TRump amd Putin are nationalists

Careful, the far right is not always fascist, it can be also authoritarian. That's why it's sometime hard to spot. And yes, sometimes, authoritarian begin in the left and ends up on the far right spectrum, Musolini was a great example of that, he was a strong leftist, but lost his way, begun a anakin character arc and ended up creating fascism (the opposite of what he believed at the start). But do not be mistaken, this is still the far right.

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There is you must understand Tejas. The right and the left are just the reflection of a clash of value. We now live in a global world so those value are mixed. No civilisation on earth live in otarcy (beside maybe some tribes) meaning that anywhere in the world, the political spectrum concerning the left and the right are the same.

Looking everything through the narrow lens of Right and Left is a classic case of misclassification and failed triage

THE LEFT : The left is not against establishment and do not aim toward the destruction of existing one. The left is the representation (in absolute) of the following notion: The environment sculpt you. Meaning that for the left, you are not in full control of your path. In practice it is used to develop the idea that the states (the environment) must help the people.

THE RIGHT: Is the opposite. For the right, YOU shape the environment. Meaning that for the right, you are in control of your path. This is used to develop the idea that YOU must help the state and YOU are in charge of your destiny.

Hence why the value of the right/far right are centered among the notion of the cult of personality/merit. And the left/far left values are centered among the progressive value toward the minorities and the seize of the mean of production by the workers.

Everywhere in the world, you will see that dichotomy. It's everywhere. And its always the same scheme.

Again you are ignoring the systems which both shape the environment and let the environment shape the system in a symbiotic and cohesive pattern ensuring the thriving of both. Sanatana Dharma for example respects environment by promoting conservation of nature by letting nature shape systems such as Gurukulas(Forest schools), Astronomical Calendar and Vanaprastha Ashrama(Forest Retirement of old people) and systems shape environment by making rain by Yagnas and taming animals


Another fallacy is that you support that left is not in control of its path and still tries to push it which is just the beautification of anarchy

This is why Macron is not a leftist but the entry point of the right, in fact that's WHY liberals are NOT leftists and why you were completely LIED to by FAR RIGHT personnality concerning the nature of the left side.

Every successful Leftist goes down the path of becoming a dictator because he has no moral compass and hence gets corrupted by power.

Logic without Morals inevitably leads to narrow mindedness

Because here is the big reveal mate:

When we talk about reality, humanity and society, there can't be two winning sides, there is necessaraly one side that is right and one side that is wrong.

Wrong again. It all depends on the nature of the conflict

And the spoiler is:

When you go rogue, you are not a leftist, when you beat criminal with your own hand, you are not a leftist, when you do justice by yourself, you are not a leftist, when you preach for more security, you are not a leftist, when you systematically censor, you are not a leftist..

..you are the right... and maybe the far right. And you are WRONG.

because of the absence of a moral compass

It's time for you to clear your mind of the lies fed up to you by cult leaders and supremascist. The left is and NEVER was the danger, the RIGHT is:

Left aims at anarchy and Chaos while Right aims for Dicatotorship of powerful

- The right doesn't understand that there is no such thing as merit

There is merit

- The right doesn't understand that more security only lead to more violence

Clash of ideologies leads to violence

- The right doesn't understand that you can't just work your way up toward success when you start at the bottom

You can. I am a living Example

- The right doesn't understand systemic issues (discrimination/Police violence/Gun control etc.)
- The right doesn't understand that differences makes us stronger

True

The right is wrong and the left is RIGHT. Time for you to understand that simple fact.

Both are wrong because of lack of morality

The left did not destroy your country, the RIGHT did. So start aiming at your actual ennemies and not toward people who want justice for minority.

Both did . Right atleast said they were doing it.

Did you EVER saw me insult anyone directly on this forum?

I may be the most radical leftist here, still, I have caused NO harm here. No matter the circounstances. Even when guys like Bob where literally insulting women, when guys like seth were insulting trans people, where guys like nameless were promoting gun ownership... I've always be on the side of change toward you all. I did called out your problematic behavior but All I did is tried to changed your mind.

This. Is. What. The. Left. DOES.

We are not here to erease your civilization, we want equity, equality and progress. For ALL.

I never once saw you comment anything on Hindus suffering in Bangladesh for starters

Listen Tejas, try to listen for once, and reread what I just write a second time. Try to look at the way Trump, Putin, and all those people try to make you target the minorities, the Lgbtq, the people of color, the muslim or the Jew.. Listen carefully to their discourse. Do you really think that we (the left) are the one trying to manipulate you ...

or is it the complete opposite ?

Again you have the thing wrong.

Yezidis, Christians of Lebanon, Hindus of Pakistan and Bangladesh, Kashmiri pandits are some of the real cases of Minorities being targeted
No Leftist took their side.

The Left is busy about pronouns.


Again the left gets directly played by Globalists, ends up supporting Radical Minorities alone and once they get into power, they decimate the left. Take Iran for Example

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Wrong

Right is the system that advocates free enterprise and private ownership, and typically favors socially traditional ideas


Wrong. Right favors moralism, traditionalism and order. The structures of right are Religion, society, free enterprise and meritocracy


Wrong. ISIS uncategorized. Russia and CHina are products of the Left


TRump amd Putin are nationalists



Looking everything through the narrow lens of Right and Left is a classic case of misclassification and failed triage



Again you are ignoring the systems which both shape the environment and let the environment shape the system in a symbiotic and cohesive pattern ensuring the thriving of both. Sanatana Dharma for example respects environment by promoting conservation of nature by letting nature shape systems such as Gurukulas(Forest schools), Astronomical Calendar and Vanaprastha Ashrama(Forest Retirement of old people) and systems shape environment by making rain by Yagnas and taming animals


Another fallacy is that you support that left is not in control of its path and still tries to push it which is just the beautification of anarchy



Every successful Leftist goes down the path of becoming a dictator because he has no moral compass and hence gets corrupted by power.

Logic without Morals inevitably leads to narrow mindedness


Wrong again. It all depends on the nature of the conflict


because of the absence of a moral compass



Left aims at anarchy and Chaos while Right aims for Dicatotorship of powerful


There is merit


Clash of ideologies leads to violence


You can. I am a living Example



True




Both are wrong because of lack of morality



Both did . Right atleast said they were doing it.





I never once saw you comment anything on Hindus suffering in Bangladesh for starters



Again you have the thing wrong.

Yezidis, Christians of Lebanon, Hindus of Pakistan and Bangladesh, Kashmiri pandits are some of the real cases of Minorities being targeted
No Leftist took their side.

The Left is busy about pronouns.


Again the left gets directly played by Globalists, ends up supporting Radical Minorities alone and once they get into power, they decimate the left. Take Iran for Example

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[Tejas]

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[Bisoromi Bear]

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[Tejas]

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