Speculations The other admirals are probably getting beaten by side characters
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Reasons Sabo has to fight Akainu:
- Killed his brother
- Prove Fire is more powerful than Magma
Reasons Luffy has to fight Akainu:
- Killed his brother in front of him
- The only character to ever successfully break his will
- Gave him a scar that still aches to this day (ignored Blackbeard but reacted to Akainu being mentioned)
- Killed his brother
- Prove Fire is more powerful than Magma
Reasons Luffy has to fight Akainu:
- Killed his brother in front of him
- The only character to ever successfully break his will
- Gave him a scar that still aches to this day (ignored Blackbeard but reacted to Akainu being mentioned)
Irrelevant because of this panel
And it's also shown that the Admirals literally act as the bodyguards and enforcers of the Celestial Dragons, we saw this most recently with Saturn, so Sabo's ultimate goal which is to take down the Celestial Dragons and Gorosei pretty much requires him to go through the Admirals.
This invalidates nothing, the Holy Knights can be a giant obstacle and Sabo can still fight Akainu, they're not mutually exclusive.
The scar thing is pretty much the only argument in favor of Luffy over Sabo, otherwise they have pretty much the exact same arguments, except Sabo's goal practically requires him to go through the Admirals.
But this isn't an automatic thing, Whitebeard was scarred by Roger and yet they were more friends than enemies and Zoro scarred Kaido which amounts to nothing, they're not sworn enemies, of course there are multiple other examples but the point is clear.
Akainu killing Ace applies to Sabo in the exact same way, more so actually now that Sabo has taken Ace's fruit and seemingly his will as well.
Not really, there are fair arguments for both of them, Sabo has the Mera and has seemingly inherited Ace's will, so in a way Sabo defeating Akainu is kinda like Ace defeating Akainu, and there's also the thematic matchup of fire vs magma which sets Sabo up as the underdog given the Mera's inherent inferiority to the Magu.
The scar thing is pretty much the only argument in favor of Luffy over Sabo, otherwise they have pretty much the exact same arguments, except Sabo's goal practically requires him to go through the Admirals.
But this isn't an automatic thing, Whitebeard was scarred by Roger and yet they were more friends than enemies and Zoro scarred Kaido which amounts to nothing, they're not sworn enemies, of course there are multiple other examples but the point is clear.
Akainu killing Ace applies to Sabo in the exact same way, more so actually now that Sabo has taken Ace's fruit and seemingly his will as well.
Not really, there are fair arguments for both of them, Sabo has the Mera and has seemingly inherited Ace's will, so in a way Sabo defeating Akainu is kinda like Ace defeating Akainu, and there's also the thematic matchup of fire vs magma which sets Sabo up as the underdog given the Mera's inherent inferiority to the Magu.
I agree with the match up. Even without powerscaling, I always thought the match up that way especially when learning that Sabo was able to escape at reverie.
Akainu as final villain won't work as Luffy is destined to beat whoever is sitting on the throne. Him as main villain on a separate arc won't work either, as there is no reason for SHs to fight the marines.
Akainu as final villain won't work as Luffy is destined to beat whoever is sitting on the throne. Him as main villain on a separate arc won't work either, as there is no reason for SHs to fight the marines.
Defeated Smoothie 1 v 1
What W does Law have?
I think Holy knights are all Yonko 2nd Commander tier
Except Figarland who is Zoro level
What W does Law have?
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Irrelevant because of this panel
And it's also shown that the Admirals literally act as the bodyguards and enforcers of the Celestial Dragons, we saw this most recently with Saturn, so Sabo's ultimate goal which is to take down the Celestial Dragons and Gorosei pretty much requires him to go through the Admirals.
This invalidates nothing, the Holy Knights can be a giant obstacle and Sabo can still fight Akainu, they're not mutually exclusive.
The scar thing is pretty much the only argument in favor of Luffy over Sabo, otherwise they have pretty much the exact same arguments, except Sabo's goal practically requires him to go through the Admirals.
But this isn't an automatic thing, Whitebeard was scarred by Roger and yet they were more friends than enemies and Zoro scarred Kaido which amounts to nothing, they're not sworn enemies, of course there are multiple other examples but the point is clear.
Akainu killing Ace applies to Sabo in the exact same way, more so actually now that Sabo has taken Ace's fruit and seemingly his will as well.
Not really, there are fair arguments for both of them, Sabo has the Mera and has seemingly inherited Ace's will, so in a way Sabo defeating Akainu is kinda like Ace defeating Akainu, and there's also the thematic matchup of fire vs magma which sets Sabo up as the underdog given the Mera's inherent inferiority to the Magu.
And it's also shown that the Admirals literally act as the bodyguards and enforcers of the Celestial Dragons, we saw this most recently with Saturn, so Sabo's ultimate goal which is to take down the Celestial Dragons and Gorosei pretty much requires him to go through the Admirals.
This invalidates nothing, the Holy Knights can be a giant obstacle and Sabo can still fight Akainu, they're not mutually exclusive.
The scar thing is pretty much the only argument in favor of Luffy over Sabo, otherwise they have pretty much the exact same arguments, except Sabo's goal practically requires him to go through the Admirals.
But this isn't an automatic thing, Whitebeard was scarred by Roger and yet they were more friends than enemies and Zoro scarred Kaido which amounts to nothing, they're not sworn enemies, of course there are multiple other examples but the point is clear.
Akainu killing Ace applies to Sabo in the exact same way, more so actually now that Sabo has taken Ace's fruit and seemingly his will as well.
Not really, there are fair arguments for both of them, Sabo has the Mera and has seemingly inherited Ace's will, so in a way Sabo defeating Akainu is kinda like Ace defeating Akainu, and there's also the thematic matchup of fire vs magma which sets Sabo up as the underdog given the Mera's inherent inferiority to the Magu.
I think Holy knights are all Yonko 2nd Commander tier
Except Figarland who is Zoro level
There arent enough Admirals for everyone.
We have:
- Akainu,Kizaru,Ryo,Fuji,Aokiji(?)
- Luffy,Zoro,Sanji,Coby,Law,Kid,Sabo
Luffy has to defeat one at least.
We can leave Zoro out if you like cuz he has Mihawk.
Sanji has to defeat one or else he'll be a fraud.
Coby/Kuzan has been set up (unfortunately).
We have 1 Admiral (two if you add Aokiji) for 3 people (four if you add Zoro).
We have:
- Akainu,Kizaru,Ryo,Fuji,Aokiji(?)
- Luffy,Zoro,Sanji,Coby,Law,Kid,Sabo
Luffy has to defeat one at least.
We can leave Zoro out if you like cuz he has Mihawk.
Sanji has to defeat one or else he'll be a fraud.
Coby/Kuzan has been set up (unfortunately).
We have 1 Admiral (two if you add Aokiji) for 3 people (four if you add Zoro).
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