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Do you agree with Rayleigh scaling?


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Luffy is telling Kizaru he is 100 times stronger than the last time they meant when Kizaru owned them

How can it be any clear
It takes someone 100 times stronger than Sabaody Supernova to match Kizaru
Which is why Rayleigh did it in his old age
Which is why Luffy can do it

It includes Zoro too as he too was a Supernova hence his strength was also 1/100th of what it is now and 1/100th of Rayleigh

So it directly says Old Rayleigh = Current Luffy = Current Zoro <= Kizaru
Luffy said "WE ARE 100x stronger", meaning that the SHs, in average, are 100x stronger than 2 years ago.

However, we both know that Luffy got the most progression among the SHs over that so Luffy is >100x stronger than 2 years ago.

Meaning, that Luffy > old Rayleigh if you use this shit to compare them.

It's basic maths.
 
Luffy is telling Kizaru he is 100 times stronger than the last time they meant when Kizaru owned them

How can it be any clear
It takes someone 100 times stronger than Sabaody Supernova to match Kizaru
Which is why Rayleigh did it in his old age
Which is why Luffy can do it

It includes Zoro too as he too was a Supernova hence his strength was also 1/100th of what it is now and 1/100th of Rayleigh

So it directly says Old Rayleigh = Current Luffy = Current Zoro <= Kizaru
Old Ray wasn't equal to Kizaru and he himself stated that he would only be able to hold him.
Luffy is beating Kizaru here, these maths are nonsense lmao
 
Old Ray was confirmed to be 100 times stronger, Luffy himself now confirmed the same.
kaido was beaten by this Luffy.
Simple
Ohhh I thought I was intentional that Luffy said that. Ray was said to 100 stronger than Luffy back then and Luffy now says it to imply that now they are on the same level. To me that does not necessarily mean Kizaru>old ray=Luffy > Kaido. It only implies that they are in the same league now.
 
Luffy is telling Kizaru he is 100 times stronger than the last time they meant when Kizaru owned them

How can it be any clear
It takes someone 100 times stronger than Sabaody Supernova to match Kizaru
Which is why Rayleigh did it in his old age
Which is why Luffy can do it

It includes Zoro too as he too was a Supernova hence his strength was also 1/100th of what it is now and 1/100th of Rayleigh

So it directly says Old Rayleigh = Current Luffy = Current Zoro <= Kizaru
You forgot Usopp.
 
The 100 times stuff is fully bullshit. It implies kid was anywhere remotely near to 1% old Rayleigh :yurazclear:
Yep. Law, Kidd, Luffy, Zoro - they all were meant to be comparable to each other, thus their role as rivals. But it changed when Luffy and Zoro got top tier mentors while Kidd sailed to the New World all on his own without preparation and got his ass whooped lots of times. In the middle of that he learned mediocre Haki and better DF control but that's it. Same as Law.

Luffy and Zoro came out stronger in the timeskip than them.
 
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Lifting took a toll


Kaido was fighting continously.
9 Scabbards
5 Supernova
Yamato
3 rounds of Pre G5 Luffy
The clouds got weaker because Kaido got weaker(not confirmed just a question of Yamato, it never happened again when he was fighting Luffy who was suppose to be stronger than Yamato or when fighting Nika who is suppose to be stronger than Luffy). It was never said that Kaido was nerfed by carrying Onigashima.
 
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