Current Events Outcome of Zoro vs Lucci
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2 Sword Style Zoro matched Zombie Ryuma & beat him with Hiryu Kaen - a 1 Sword Finisher.
Kaku was a stronger opponent though who fought 3 Sword Style Zoro.
You're right in that the fight was evenly matched when Zoro was using 2 Swords but what you're missing is that Zoro was Nerfed after Enies Lobby.
Kaku was a stronger opponent though who fought 3 Sword Style Zoro.
You're right in that the fight was evenly matched when Zoro was using 2 Swords but what you're missing is that Zoro was Nerfed after Enies Lobby.
And honestly, it matters that Ryuma never landed any hits on Zoro.
Daz Bones landed many hits on Zoro and Zoro kept standing up. So, what the fight showed is that while Zoro could oneshot Ryuma with an upper end technique, the same was not true.
@Celestial D. Dragon.
Daz Bones landed many hits on Zoro and Zoro kept standing up. So, what the fight showed is that while Zoro could oneshot Ryuma with an upper end technique, the same was not true.
@Celestial D. Dragon.
If there is one system that maintains a standard for ranks among the 3 main powers, it's the admirals. GB announced it'd be a bad look for him to lose to underlings after beating a YC1 and a YC2, so obviously certain expectations are meant to be met while deciding an admiral candidate. They shouldn't even be contenders if they're considered too weak to even apply that they're looking for outsiders to fill their ranks.
Meaning, that even with Fujitora and GB around, the two VAs were still considered candidates before it was eventually determined that the Monster duo was the better choice.
Meaning, that even with Fujitora and GB around, the two VAs were still considered candidates before it was eventually determined that the Monster duo was the better choice.
Well again, they were so far from Admiral level that the navy said nah we need to do a once in a lifetime draft to appoint someone a position that should take a life time of promotions to get if that. A position with so much power and influence, and they would rather two newbies than even entertain the thought of the VAs being promoted.
I mean let's face it compared to the VAs we've seen, Kat, Marco, King damn near look like Admirals next to them. They would beat them in bunches.
We haven't even seen a VA that was legit SC/Calamity lvl, let alone YC1 level.
I mean let's face it compared to the VAs we've seen, Kat, Marco, King damn near look like Admirals next to them. They would beat them in bunches.
We haven't even seen a VA that was legit SC/Calamity lvl, let alone YC1 level.
And did you read what I wrote lmfao? Because next to the other Vice Admirals they look like Admirals. The gap between a YC1 and someone like Doberman is prob so big you can fit a universe in there.
They legit had no choice BUT to select them as Admirals. But they were so weak that they needed to do something unprecedented and make non marines Admirals and give them essentially highest ranking post in the world.
That is insanely telling of just how far those Admiral candidates are from Admiral lvl.
They legit had no choice BUT to select them as Admirals. But they were so weak that they needed to do something unprecedented and make non marines Admirals and give them essentially highest ranking post in the world.
That is insanely telling of just how far those Admiral candidates are from Admiral lvl.
The larger the group, the weaker they are on an average as a thumb rule.
Like take Beast Pirates f.ex., Tobi Roppo were just introduced before the War to be defeated whereas Calamities got proper intros - Jack first & then King & Queen.
Same for other crews too.
Here, only Doberman has been shown before, the rest just look like new glorified Tobi Roppo-esque groups which are just made to be defeated in this arc tbh.
People really think Vergo & Smoker are weak VAs when they are probably the strongest VAs outside of Zodiacs & obvious exceptions like Garp or Tsuru.
Like take Beast Pirates f.ex., Tobi Roppo were just introduced before the War to be defeated whereas Calamities got proper intros - Jack first & then King & Queen.
Same for other crews too.
Here, only Doberman has been shown before, the rest just look like new glorified Tobi Roppo-esque groups which are just made to be defeated in this arc tbh.
People really think Vergo & Smoker are weak VAs when they are probably the strongest VAs outside of Zodiacs & obvious exceptions like Garp or Tsuru.
Dude they are too weak to be Admirals which is why the Navy went out of their way to do something damn near illegal.
By default they are Admiral candidates by virtue of being the strongest marines at the time.
The default is not the thing you focus on but rather the unprecedented. And what was unprecedented is the military draft because the Admiral candidates were that disappointing.
That's because it takes a very very strong reason/reaction to take such extreme measures to the point of risking newbies to hold such powerful influential position. If the Admiral candidates were even sniffing the lvl they would be Admirals rn just based off that fact alone.
By default they are Admiral candidates by virtue of being the strongest marines at the time.
The default is not the thing you focus on but rather the unprecedented. And what was unprecedented is the military draft because the Admiral candidates were that disappointing.
That's because it takes a very very strong reason/reaction to take such extreme measures to the point of risking newbies to hold such powerful influential position. If the Admiral candidates were even sniffing the lvl they would be Admirals rn just based off that fact alone.
Bro, I am not sure why you're being so stubborn about it. You said for yourself that they're considered too weak to be admirals and that they looked for as outsiders, and if this happened after they're well of the fact that these two are stronger than all other VAs, that literally means these two are never even considered for this position. But that's clearly not the case. They were in the picture until Fujitora and GB were selected. How on Blue Planet is something so obvious going over your head? lmao
And the drafting didn't happen only for admirals. Let's not turn this into something that it's not. They recruited all kinds of people. These two were originally meant to replace Kuzan and Akainu until Oda changed the idea. Also, I don't know why you're acting like it was mentioned somewhere that they're far weaker than Fujitora and GB. The difference could be as small as 90-95 for all we know.
And the drafting didn't happen only for admirals. Let's not turn this into something that it's not. They recruited all kinds of people. These two were originally meant to replace Kuzan and Akainu until Oda changed the idea. Also, I don't know why you're acting like it was mentioned somewhere that they're far weaker than Fujitora and GB. The difference could be as small as 90-95 for all we know.