Controversial General Political Discussion

[Gaimon The Pirate]

And the hostages can easily be coerced too -- but such things are just overlooked in favour of the narrative you wish to believe. The difference here is, I don't want one side to be right. I am pretty confident both are wrong. I don't have any skin in this game, so to speak.

The Hostages were freed and are home now. What is this, wireless coercion?

I hate this narrative of "both are wrong".
Were vietnamese wrong when USA invaded and fought back making death traps in the jungle?
Were partisans wrong when they were fighting Nazi using guerrilla tactics?
There is a strength unbalance, it's not a videogame.

 

[Okamakama]

The Hostages were freed and are home now. What is this, wireless coercion?

I hate this narrative of "both are wrong".
Were vietnamese wrong when USA invaded and fought back making death traps in the jungle?
Were partisans wrong when they were fighting Nazi using guerrilla tactics?
There is a strength unbalance, it's not a videogame.

When the situation calls for it, I will certainly say both are wrong. If you can outright deny what Hamas did then you're no different from those who deny the holocaust happened. It doesn't agree with what you want reality to be, so you claim it's all propaganda, conspiracy, and latch onto any argument irrespective of the veracity of the claims or where the information was sourced from.

Fucking hell bro.

 

[Sekai Saikyō Mihawk]

American Conservatives ( and please, I don't want to talk about Dems vs Reps) are religiously attached to their only faith. Money.

That and being in support of killing Arabs in the middle east

 

[Roo]

Is this the same video evidence that "proves" the beheadings? The women raped in the streets, when the hostage says that they were eating, they were attended by doctors and living almost the same quality of life as the Hamas terrorists?
When you use as a casus belli something that gets proven a lie, you cannot be surprised that the public opinion will start to revalue your "evidence".
Specially with video surfacing of IDF shooting during the Hamas attack.

There’s video and medical evidence of Hamas beheadings. Literally journalist have reported on this

and ffs the hostages have family still under captivity. Of course they won’t talk shit about Hamas

 

[NikaInParis]

The Hostages were freed and are home now. What is this, wireless coercion?

I hate this narrative of "both are wrong".
.

That's what happens when people become aware of a decades long conflict 2 weeks ago...and just laser focus on one day during those two weeks time they've been following it.

 

[Okamakama]

There’s video and medical evidence of Hamas beheadings. Literally journalist have reported on this

and ffs the hostages have family still under captivity. Of course they won’t talk shit about Hamas

Trust my sources bro. Only my pro-Hamas sources are accurate bro.

 

[Zenos7]

His response will certainly be interesting.

Some of his posts Sound like satire tbh

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

When the situation calls for it, I will certainly say both are wrong. If you can outright deny what Hamas did then you're no different from those who deny the holocaust happened. It doesn't agree with what you want reality to be, so you claim it's all propaganda, conspiracy, and latch onto any argument irrespective of the veracity of the claims or where the information was sourced from.

Fucking hell bro.

Are you uncapable of reading, my friend? Are you perhaps a Naruto fan?
Read what I write:

I believe what I see.
And what I see is that there were no beheaded children, no raped women and the hostages claim themselves to be treated with respect.
There was a terror attack at that party lead by Hamas and IDF fought back.
Then a technological giant started bombing a country with no water access, hospitals, churches and apartments.

What am I denying?
I am denying that there were beheadings and raping in the streets, because there are 0 pictures and 0 videos of it.
All the while, I write that Hamas led a terror attack?
Why so defensive?

 

[Roo]

Trust my sources bro. Only my pro-Hamas sources are accurate bro.

You have the Islamist nut job spreading fake interviews here as well lol.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Trust my sources bro. Only my pro-Hamas sources are accurate bro.

If the sources are so good, why is it impossible to see them?
Where are the videos of these heinous acts?
Because if I were to see them, I'd be the first to condemn the acts.
Just as I call the attack a terror attack.

 

[Sekai Saikyō Mihawk]

The evidence comes from a Netanyahu's media guy

https://twitter.com/mrconfino?t=9QRzQMEp2s9GqyX55sKxcg&s=09

Zionists have zero shame lmao.

 

[Zenos7]

You have the Islamist nut job spreading fake interviews here as well lol.

Wut?

 

[Okamakama]

Are you uncapable of reading, my friend? Are you perhaps a Naruto fan?
Read what I write:


What am I denying?
I am denying that there were beheadings and raping in the streets, because there are 0 pictures and 0 videos of it.
All the while, I write that Hamas led a terror attack?
Why so defensive?

Perhaps I am defensive because you're essentially stating that you can't blame him for doubting any terror attack happened because of something you believe (no beheadings, etc).

Maybe I am defensive of the clear denial of culpability from one side, but a willing demonization of another group (which has been in the wrong in many ways, btw).

Maybe I'm sick of this Islamist v Christian/Jewish/Zionist/West/White/Athiest Etc Etc.

It's so fucking divisive and the double standards are just plain as day.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

There’s video and medical evidence of Hamas beheadings. Literally journalist have reported on this

and ffs the hostages have family still under captivity. Of course they won’t talk shit about Hamas

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...oundtable-jewish-community-leaders-rcna119865
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...e House has walked,leaders at the White House.

There is no evidence.
Just like you should not trust Hamas propaganda, you shouldn't trust the other side.

 

[Roo]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...oundtable-jewish-community-leaders-rcna119865
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/12/white-house-walks-back-bidens-claim-he-saw-children-beheaded-by-hamas#:~:text=The White House has walked,leaders at the White House.

There is no evidence.
Just like you should not trust Hamas propaganda, you shouldn't trust the other side.

The 40 babies story is something else, there were definitely beheadings going on.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Perhaps I am defensive because you're essentially stating that you can't blame him for doubting any terror attack happened because of something you believe (no beheadings, etc).

Maybe I am defensive of the clear denial of culpability from one side, but a willing demonization of another group (which has been in the wrong in many ways, btw).

Maybe I'm sick of this Islamist v Christian/Jewish/Zionist/West/White/Athiest Etc Etc.

It's so fucking divisive and the double standards are just plain as day.

I understand that you might be frustrated about the situation and I frankly understand, I don't want to engage in hostile conversation about sensitive topics.
But just as I find hard to believe Hamas propaganda, I don't trust IDF's propaganda.
If evidence is there, just like there is evidence of churches being bombed and water being cut out, I'll be the first to look at it and condemn,
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The 40 babies story is something else, there were definitely beheadings going on.

Source: Roo on Worstgen

 

[Roo]

The evidence comes from a Netanyahu's media guy

https://twitter.com/mrconfino?t=9QRzQMEp2s9GqyX55sKxcg&s=09

Zionists have zero shame lmao.

Foreign editor
@JewishnewsUK
& freelance correspondent:
@BBCWorld

@CBSNews

@SkyNews

@usatoday

@haaretzcom

@DailyMailUK

@TheSun

@timesradio
mrconfino@gmail.com

So all Jews are Zionist now?

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

So all Jews are Zionist now?

?
What is this strawman?
The only source has always been that guy, close to Netanyahu, and you want me to believe him on his word. During one of the most heinous wars in the modern era.

 

[Sekai Saikyō Mihawk]

So all Jews are Zionist now?

You're slow af. Didnt expect much from a zionist nutjob ngl

 

[Roo]

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Source: Roo on Worstgen

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/isra...-hamas-attacks_n_65353999e4b011a9cf79eaca/amp

there’s literally a video out there of Hamas be heading someone with a shove lol.