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Gaimon The Pirate

Gaimon The Pirate

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Okamakama said:
I'm against the terrorist Muslims and the murderous Israelites. Don't twist my words.

As for footage... they're online. If you cannot accept it as real, then you're a lost cause and likely an extremist.
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Is this the same video evidence that "proves" the beheadings? The women raped in the streets, when the hostage says that they were eating, they were attended by doctors and living almost the same quality of life as the Hamas terrorists?
When you use as a casus belli something that gets proven a lie, you cannot be surprised that the public opinion will start to revalue your "evidence".
Specially with video surfacing of IDF shooting during the Hamas attack.
 
Gaimon The Pirate

Gaimon The Pirate

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Monkey D Theories said:
But I don’t see how people can say that hamas is evil and needs to be eradicated, while being pro IDF. Or even Vice versa.

They both engage in terrorism imo
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Yeah but one engages with terrorism with missiles that are 40 years old or stolen from Afghanistan, driving Toyotas van. The other had the richest army in the world after the USA, an highly militarised state.
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Sekai Saikyō Mihawk said:
"Muh ur just racist and hate xtians..."

The folks in question 🤣

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc...ngelical-christians-support-israel-rcna121481

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ristians-republicans-2024-israel-palestinians
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All the while christian churches are bombed to the ground in Gaza.
Another war crime.
 
Okamakama

Okamakama

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Gaimon The Pirate said:
Is this the same video evidence that "proves" the beheadings? The women raped in the streets, when the hostage says that they were eating, they were attended by doctors and living almost the same quality of life as the Hamas terrorists?
When you use as a casus belli something that gets proven a lie, you cannot be surprised that the public opinion will start to revalue your "evidence".
Specially with video surfacing of IDF shooting during the Hamas attack.
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But ultimately that's just the in-group biases shown by supporters of Hamas. You want to believe that. It suits your narrative. Evidence shows both groups are evil.
 
Gaimon The Pirate

Gaimon The Pirate

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#25,908
Okamakama said:
But ultimately that's just the in-group biases shown by supporters of Hamas. You want to believe that. It suits your narrative. Evidence shows both groups are evil.
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I believe what I see.
And what I see is that there were no beheaded children, no raped women and the hostages claim themselves to be treated with respect.
There was a terror attack at that party lead by Hamas and IDF fought back.
Then a technological giant started bombing a country with no water access, hospitals, churches and apartments.
 
Okamakama

Okamakama

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Gaimon The Pirate said:
I believe what I see.
And what I see is that there were no beheaded children, no raped women and the hostages claim themselves to be treated with respect.
There was a terror attack at that party lead by Hamas and IDF fought back.
Then a technological giant started bombing a country with no water access, hospitals, churches and apartments.
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And the hostages can easily be coerced too -- but such things are just overlooked in favour of the narrative you wish to believe. The difference here is, I don't want one side to be right. I am pretty confident both are wrong. I don't have any skin in this game, so to speak.
 
Gaimon The Pirate

Gaimon The Pirate

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Okamakama said:
And the hostages can easily be coerced too -- but such things are just overlooked in favour of the narrative you wish to believe. The difference here is, I don't want one side to be right. I am pretty confident both are wrong. I don't have any skin in this game, so to speak.
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The Hostages were freed and are home now. What is this, wireless coercion?

I hate this narrative of "both are wrong".
Were vietnamese wrong when USA invaded and fought back making death traps in the jungle?
Were partisans wrong when they were fighting Nazi using guerrilla tactics?
There is a strength unbalance, it's not a videogame.
 
Okamakama

Okamakama

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Gaimon The Pirate said:
The Hostages were freed and are home now. What is this, wireless coercion?

I hate this narrative of "both are wrong".
Were vietnamese wrong when USA invaded and fought back making death traps in the jungle?
Were partisans wrong when they were fighting Nazi using guerrilla tactics?
There is a strength unbalance, it's not a videogame.
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When the situation calls for it, I will certainly say both are wrong. If you can outright deny what Hamas did then you're no different from those who deny the holocaust happened. It doesn't agree with what you want reality to be, so you claim it's all propaganda, conspiracy, and latch onto any argument irrespective of the veracity of the claims or where the information was sourced from.

Fucking hell bro.
 
Roo

Roo

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Gaimon The Pirate said:
Is this the same video evidence that "proves" the beheadings? The women raped in the streets, when the hostage says that they were eating, they were attended by doctors and living almost the same quality of life as the Hamas terrorists?
When you use as a casus belli something that gets proven a lie, you cannot be surprised that the public opinion will start to revalue your "evidence".
Specially with video surfacing of IDF shooting during the Hamas attack.
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There’s video and medical evidence of Hamas beheadings. Literally journalist have reported on this



and ffs the hostages have family still under captivity. Of course they won’t talk shit about Hamas
 
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