Who will be the Next Strawhat?


  • Total voters
    506
Luffy is the protagonist, so, it's really about what he says.

Like, Luffy invited Gaimon, a man trapped in a treasure chest, to join his crew. And he was 100% serious.

Luffy invited Brook, a talking skeleton, to join his crew, without knowing really anything about him.

So, you need an invite, a dream that involves sailing around the world, and, as much as I hate to give this to C4N, a "shining Nakama moment".

Gaimon already had a dream that didn't align with Luffy's; he wanted to stay on the island with his weird animal buddies.

Brook had a dream, to recover his shadow and then return to Laboon, that originally didn't align with the Straw Hats, but, circumstances led to their goals being the same, so he joined after being invited more formally.

Momo's dream to become a great Shogun of Wano doesn't keep him from joining the Straw Hats, and he has an invite, and a SNM (Shining Nakama Moment) in stopping Onigashima from falling and killing... well, pretty much everyone. So, he can join, if Oden's journal/Momo's role as Shogun involves him going to Laugh Tale.

Kinemon's dream was to kill Kaido and help Momo rule as Shogun, but, he's never really had a shining moment, IMO, and his dream is connected to Momo, not the Straw Hats themselves, making him more like a Pedro. He won't actually join (I think Kinemon will die when Pluton is activated).

Vivi's dream was to protect and rule her kingdom. So, she couldn't sail with the Straw Hats. BUT, now that the WG is a direct enemy of Alabasta, Vivi will join the Straw Hats, who have declared war on the WG and Celestial Dragons multiple times by now. The only way Alabasta can be protected, is through Joy Boy/the Straw Hats. Vivi also has plenty of Shining Moments, from stopping the bomb in Alubarna, to fighting the Bananagator to try to save the crew. So, Vivi will join soon.

Yamato's dream was to fulfill Oden's Will, defeat Kaido, and open the borders of Wano so she could set sail to the sea. However, since Momo didn't have Zunesha open the borders at the end of the raid, Yamato still needs to fulfill Oden's will. Yamato will join, but only after Pluton is activated and the borders are open. Her shining moments were catching Luffy as he fell, holding back Kaido, and defending Momo and Shinobu from multiple enemies.



And then there's the mutherfucking problem child, the god damn rabbit.

Oda made Carrot a huge focus in Whole Cake, giving her a mentor death, a Roger tie-in, a tie-in to bringing about the Dawn, and having her interact with the crew regularly. By the end of Whole Cake, when you look back at Zou, Carrot had interacted heavily with the entire crew, including Jinbei. This is something neither Yamato, nor Vivi ever achieved.

Carrot also had many Shining Nakama moments, from trying to avenge her mentor, Pedro, to help the Straw Hats escape, to her conversation with Sanji, to her trap with Chopper against Brulee, to her super cool Sulong rampage that saved the Straw Hats from sure death.

SO WHERE'S THE FUCKING INVITE, ODA?!?!?!?

There's no way the Straw Hats never talked to Carrot about her future before leaving after they've sailed and fought together so much. And, guess what? We saw from Yamato that Oda has no problem holding shitty Wano Nakama flashbacks till later.

The most likely answer here is that Carrot already declined an invite to the crew, in order to rebuild Zou, the same way Vivi did. Once Zou is attacked by the WG, and Zunesha is killed, the Minks will migrate to Wano, and Carrot will be able to join.

We'll get a flashback of Carrot declining to join the next time we see Zou, most likely with Bepo swimming to the island with Law, since Bepo has a Vivre Card of Zou and Zou would be the closest island to Winners Island where the Heart Pirates took their big L.

Carrot's dream is to fulfill Pedro's Will, and Pedro's Will/dream was to sail with Roger, the Pirate King, to bring about the Dawn. So, we just need an invite, and Carrot to be forced to leave Zou like Vivi was forced to leave Alabasta (Carrot is the Vivi of the New World, a foreign royal connected to the Ancient Kingdom who was left behind to rule her kingdom).

If Oda actually sidelined Carrot being asked to join the crew for multiple volumes, though, he's a fucking madman, and I hope a dog scratches its ass all over his carpet for making me read C4N's thread-derailment-syndrome for another 6 months. STOP HOLDING BACK INFORMATION JUST TO DESTROY YOUR OWN FANBASE'S SANITY, GOD DAMN IT ODA.
Man u know that Gaimon invitations was for comedian purposes, we know he's not going to join.
Vivi really has a high chance.
Kinmon & Momo got their, and in chapter 1057 was just their farewell moment.
as for Carrot, Oda didn't hint at Carrot joining at all, that was only fans wishes.
 
Last edited:
Quit being arrogant :holdthisl:ogiko
Where am I arrogant dude ? Quite being on the defensive because I'm confident in my analysis.


What are you going to say when Yamato shows up again? Yamato's story either continues or starts anew, Either way I'm winning.
That Oda created a new story for Yamato


as for Carrot, Oda didn't hint at Carrot joining at all, that was only fans wishes.
Not directly but in the subtext hecreated Carrot mainly like a strawhat.
 
We can only predict who is the closest looking at the common parameters with the strawhats, nothing more.

And sorry, but Yamato's story is over. The choices she had to make were made.
those parameters you are talking about are irrelevant to joining matters.
you are seeing that Yamato's story is over because you can't interpret what the characters say properly. but the truth is that Yamato has all the requirements to join SHs.
 
There's no way the Straw Hats never talked to Carrot about her future before leaving after they've sailed and fought together so much. And, guess what? We saw from Yamato that Oda has no problem holding shitty Wano Nakama flashbacks till later.
Nah, I think Oda just wanted to get rid of her character because he had been planning on doing so for a while if her absence during most of the arc was an indicator. If Carrot was supposed to be a Straw Hat he wouldn’t treat her with such indifference.

Or maybe he was told to finish Wano in X amount of chapters after One Piece Film: Red was announced, so he had to rush to wrap things up. IIRC we usually get a big dinner party at the end of an arc but I don’t think we got that in this one?

Greenbull also appeared and got beaten unusually fast considering he’s an ADMIRAL?? :luuh:
 
If Carrot was supposed to be a Straw Hat he wouldn’t treat her with such indifference.
Not necessaraly. Oda is known - at least in the analysis community - to create very subtle character arc. This is what was done for Carrot partially. For a reason not to bring her more to the light its simple, Carrot's story didn't have much to do with the story of the Kozuki and Momo or even Yamato.


that's only your conclusion, but nothing from the manga
No, its from the manga.

There are 10 parameters that all the strawhats have. Meaning that we can say who is constructed like a strawhat by looking at those parameters. And Carrot fits most of them.
 
Why ?



No on the contrary, I'm saying that because I understand perfectly her character arc.

Yamato was indeed partially constructed like a strawhat
it's not a matter of constructed like SH or not, what really matters is what is said in the Manga, Yamato said she wants to join, she asked straw hats to join, she was going to join before GB comes to Wano, it's as simple as that, it doesn't need parameters or equations or whatever calculus you are studying, this is different, it's a story which can be reshaped according to what the writer thinks, it's not math
 
Are we all just going to skip over the fact that @Logiko straight up admitted that even if Oda came out and said he didn't build Carrot like a strawhat, he would still consider himself right?
If Oda told you that Strawhats don't have dreams. Would you believe him ?


9th Pillar: The post.


she asked straw hats to join
Careful. Yamato NEVER asked the strawhat or Luffy to join. All of her interactions regarding this matter where affirmations, not questions. Its very important in term of narration.

Because what happens is actually a subversion.
 
Even if Oda himself would came here and Tell him Carrot was never build like a strawhat in mind, C4N would be right.
Indeed. That's because I don't care about the words of an author about his story, only what is in the sotry matter. A lot of Author often do things without knowing it, instinctively.
The level of delusion is mindblowing:usoprice:
 

CoC: Color of Clowns

People trust Whistleblowers until it's Aliens/UFOs
Nah, I think Oda just wanted to get rid of her character because he had been planning on doing so for a while if her absence during most of the arc was an indicator. If Carrot was supposed to be a Straw Hat he wouldn’t treat her with such indifference.

Or maybe he was told to finish Wano in X amount of chapters after One Piece Film: Red was announced, so he had to rush to wrap things up. IIRC we usually get a big dinner party at the end of an arc but I don’t think we got that in this one?

Greenbull also appeared and got beaten unusually fast considering he’s an ADMIRAL?? :luuh:
When you love Film Red as a movie but hate what it did to the Manga.

It's fine, Oda was going to rush to get Dragon into 1,100, anyway.

When Perospero tells Carrot to go back and eat grass, and then Shank's mows Green Bulls' lawn.

The fact that Oda made Uta canon in the same chapter with that silhouette flashback makes it even more egrigious. Some Wano stuff just got tabled for later, like Pluton, but what Oda did to Carrot fans at the end of Wano is a criminal cartoon comic act.
Post automatically merged:

Tama's going to be the worst addition, because of the community reaction.

I'm dreading the day Shinobu ages up Tama so much. I hated it with Momo, and I'll hate it when it happens again.

No one should have given Oda access to age regression and age progression in this manga, fucking Jump editors.
 
The level of delusion is mindblowing
Sure :milaugh:


The fact that Oda made Uta canon in the same chapter with that silhouette flashback makes it even more egrigious. Some Wano stuff just got tabled for later, like Pluton, but what Oda did to Carrot fans at the end of Wano is a criminal cartoon comic act.
Looking at the way fans are treating this end (and the fact that even non Carrot fans are saying that this is weird).. I feel like this is very unlikely to be just a mistakes.

It COULD be. After all Carrot was almost non existent in Wano and oda could have simply brushed aside her character.. but this doesn't fit with the way he is used to do things.. the guys is cartezian to the point of obsession with his characters so letting such a mistakes go under the radar is too weird and unlikely for him.

I mean the guy spent two entire page on it.. Meaning at least 1 to 5 hours of work (I don't know how fast he outlines and draws) and not once in the meantimes the though of this being very strange popped up ? BS.

Nah, this is perfectly thought out. This is just the beginning.
Where do you see a question here ?
 
Top