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I'm TERRIFIED for digital artists. We need some legislations all around the world real quick
I think we should look at other ways for digital artists not to lose their income rather than regulating technology itself.
A few months ago I was thinking about learning how to craft stuff in one of these fields, but quickly I figured that I'd lose way too much time and then money to become skillful at it because the AIs will probably take over in 1 or 2 years at most.
"over expensive 3D artist" ? Do you know how much work goes into 3D or digital work in general ?? There is no such thing as over expensive digital artist. They are right now struggling to survive. Not to mention that the work you will be doing by AI will most of the time be STOLEN work from preexisting artist.
You really have no idea how the industry work. THOUSANDS of digital artists will lose there revenues because of that. FUrthermore don't think that it will stop to 3D or animation, its the ENTIRE CREATIVE processes that will be impacted.
Its not about the technology. The technology can be good if used ethically and without taking the job of thousands of artists. For example, I might use AI to help my work on the One Piece spin off project, but the AI will be nourrished from MY work, not the work of others.
Sure, why learn how to create when you can just use stolen work from previous artist to go faster? Why bother understanding how the craft work when you can have a bad product in result. You remind me of this guy Shadowdiversity that is thinking that because he learned for hours how to use an IA then he is better at understanding art and creating art than regular artists when its in fact the total opposite.
AI is a tool, it shouldn't be the answer to problems of cost and time.
That the most of out touch thing I think I saw you post here. Art is WORK. And work should not be free, never. Unless we live in a utopia.
You really have no idea how the industry work. THOUSANDS of digital artists will lose there revenues because of that. FUrthermore don't think that it will stop to 3D or animation, its the ENTIRE CREATIVE processes that will be impacted.
Its not about the technology. The technology can be good if used ethically and without taking the job of thousands of artists. For example, I might use AI to help my work on the One Piece spin off project, but the AI will be nourrished from MY work, not the work of others.
Sure, why learn how to create when you can just use stolen work from previous artist to go faster? Why bother understanding how the craft work when you can have a bad product in result. You remind me of this guy Shadowdiversity that is thinking that because he learned for hours how to use an IA then he is better at understanding art and creating art than regular artists when its in fact the total opposite.
AI is a tool, it shouldn't be the answer to problems of cost and time.
That the most of out touch thing I think I saw you post here. Art is WORK. And work should not be free, never. Unless we live in a utopia.
"over expensive 3D artist" ? Do you know how much work goes into 3D or digital work in general ?? There is no such thing as over expensive digital artist. They are right now struggling to survive. Not to mention that the work you will be doing by AI will most of the time be STOLEN work from preexisting artist.
You really have no idea how the industry work. THOUSANDS of digital artists will lose there revenues because of that. FUrthermore don't think that it will stop to 3D or animation, its the ENTIRE CREATIVE processes that will be impacted.
Its not about the technology. The technology can be good if used ethically and without taking the job of thousands of artists. For example, I might use AI to help my work on the One Piece spin off project, but the AI will be nourrished from MY work, not the work of others.
Sure, why learn how to create when you can just use stolen work from previous artist to go faster? Why bother understanding how the craft work when you can have a bad product in result. You remind me of this guy Shadowdiversity that is thinking that because he learned for hours how to use an IA then he is better at understanding art and creating art than regular artists when its in fact the total opposite.
AI is a tool, it shouldn't be the answer to problems of cost and time.
That the most of out touch thing I think I saw you post here. Art is WORK. And work should not be free, never. Unless we live in a utopia.
You really have no idea how the industry work. THOUSANDS of digital artists will lose there revenues because of that. FUrthermore don't think that it will stop to 3D or animation, its the ENTIRE CREATIVE processes that will be impacted.
Its not about the technology. The technology can be good if used ethically and without taking the job of thousands of artists. For example, I might use AI to help my work on the One Piece spin off project, but the AI will be nourrished from MY work, not the work of others.
Sure, why learn how to create when you can just use stolen work from previous artist to go faster? Why bother understanding how the craft work when you can have a bad product in result. You remind me of this guy Shadowdiversity that is thinking that because he learned for hours how to use an IA then he is better at understanding art and creating art than regular artists when its in fact the total opposite.
AI is a tool, it shouldn't be the answer to problems of cost and time.
That the most of out touch thing I think I saw you post here. Art is WORK. And work should not be free, never. Unless we live in a utopia.
I was answering to "there is no point in learning because i'll be out of job due to AI".
My answer is that art should be pursued for passion not money.
If you don't think this is true, you are just a stupid person. Chasing money is a fool's errand.
My bad I didn't see the quote, in the context it felt like you were saying that artist should not care about Ai as long as they have passion. Simply because this is an argument that comes back a lot when we talk about working in the industry of art
Yes passion should be the prime motor indeed. SOrry
Yes passion should be the prime motor indeed. SOrry
Only a few % of them. Most artist struggle.
No, it will be the majority mate. We are talking here about:
- Screenwriters
- Compositors
- 2D (Concept artist-storyboarders etc.)
- 3D artist (From modelers to animators)
- Visual effect artist
- Even Actors in some cases
We are taking about thousands and THOUSANDS of people losing their job because a CEO doesn't understand how real art is made and because they want to make more money in less time.
Yeah, that would help you actually understand why using AI non ethically hurt a LOT of people.
Understanding how art is done, why its done, why there is so much work put into it. Why it can't be improvised. Why using AI based on othersd people work, will not help you make better art but will actually be non beneficial for you in the long run
o/ Hi, non pro animator Here with family in animation. I don't want to use those skills now but I have the qualification for this job. And now, I know that no matter my future, there is very low chances for me to come back to that if I need to. Because of the evolution of AI and its unethical usage in videogame and movie industry.
No, it will be the majority mate. We are talking here about:
- Screenwriters
- Compositors
- 2D (Concept artist-storyboarders etc.)
- 3D artist (From modelers to animators)
- Visual effect artist
- Even Actors in some cases
We are taking about thousands and THOUSANDS of people losing their job because a CEO doesn't understand how real art is made and because they want to make more money in less time.
Yeah, that would help you actually understand why using AI non ethically hurt a LOT of people.
Understanding how art is done, why its done, why there is so much work put into it. Why it can't be improvised. Why using AI based on othersd people work, will not help you make better art but will actually be non beneficial for you in the long run
o/ Hi, non pro animator Here with family in animation. I don't want to use those skills now but I have the qualification for this job. And now, I know that no matter my future, there is very low chances for me to come back to that if I need to. Because of the evolution of AI and its unethical usage in videogame and movie industry.
Your screenshot was about "animation". Of course I hate what Netflix and other mofo companies will do by supplying us garbage for the masses instead of real crafts. But AIs will take jobs wether you like it or not. What do you want exactly ? Regulating AIs in the whole world ? Never gonna happen. Jobs are created by computers and deleted by computers.
Anyway, only thing I could re-formulate is the "over-expensive" thing. Other part of the post is legitimate.
Anyway, only thing I could re-formulate is the "over-expensive" thing. Other part of the post is legitimate.
Artists complainining about AI is like cowboys complaining about cars. Technology cannot be stopped, art is, in most cases, patterns, and we should not be surprised that AI is gonna be able tl make music, pictures and possibly movies in the future.
What we should do is understand that this is the future no matter what, so, where do we go from here?
What we should do is understand that this is the future no matter what, so, where do we go from here?
Despite what you think, this is not something that is inevitable.
Yes. Simple. Regulation of the Usage of AI all over the world to have some ethical usage.
Boy. Aside from 3D artist, none of the jobs quoted above were created by computers.
No, its just plain unethical, egoitistical, ignorant and hurtfull for the actual artist that will nourrish the AI you will be working on.
Nobody is saying that AI must be stopped. In fact we need to improve AI. We are saying that they must be used ethically and not taking the jobs of creators. You are completely missunderstanding the problem here.
In the future ? Bro, on what planet are you living on? Its happening RIGHT NOW. Thousands of artist are already losing their job as we speek. This is something that must be takled NOW.
Toward more ethical usage of AI. You don't see countries over the world launching thousands of nuclear war heads per month, right ? Well this is what ethical usage mean. Because a technology exist doesn't mean we absolutely need to use it entirely and bypassing human ressources.
Yes. Simple. Regulation of the Usage of AI all over the world to have some ethical usage.
Boy. Aside from 3D artist, none of the jobs quoted above were created by computers.
No, its just plain unethical, egoitistical, ignorant and hurtfull for the actual artist that will nourrish the AI you will be working on.
Nobody is saying that AI must be stopped. In fact we need to improve AI. We are saying that they must be used ethically and not taking the jobs of creators. You are completely missunderstanding the problem here.
In the future ? Bro, on what planet are you living on? Its happening RIGHT NOW. Thousands of artist are already losing their job as we speek. This is something that must be takled NOW.
Toward more ethical usage of AI. You don't see countries over the world launching thousands of nuclear war heads per month, right ? Well this is what ethical usage mean. Because a technology exist doesn't mean we absolutely need to use it entirely and bypassing human ressources.
When real life fails you over and over constantly, you tend to welcome the existence and the presence of AI in your daily basis.
But what I'd like to see how the existence of programs like Chat GPT affects the lives of kids pursuing education. Chat GPT seems to answer questions related to school subjects (even math) just fine as long as the user feeds it enough information into the initial question needing to be asked.
"Can you summarize and condense this chapter of a textbook into notes for study please?"
"Any suggestions on how to solve this math problem that I am stuck on?"
But what I'd like to see how the existence of programs like Chat GPT affects the lives of kids pursuing education. Chat GPT seems to answer questions related to school subjects (even math) just fine as long as the user feeds it enough information into the initial question needing to be asked.
"Can you summarize and condense this chapter of a textbook into notes for study please?"
"Any suggestions on how to solve this math problem that I am stuck on?"
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Well...at least prostitutes will still have jobs for a long ass time
There is no stopping technology,chief.
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There is no stopping technology,chief.
It was many a growing teenager's goal to become a digital artist while spending half of their days in a discord server trying to solicit nude pics because that's the only way people like that could get some.
The days of an artist's career developing into something respectable over time may be pretty much at an end now...