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luffy can't move because of gear 5 drawback
kizaru can't move because he was gadooshed in the head
learn the difference kid
and what the fuck do you mean down for good, are you saying luffy is dead?
- He down because he went all out.
- Kizaru wasn't even trying to fight
- Luffy used up everything to land one attack.
- KIZARU is still speaking and will get up before Luffy , mark my words.
- Going all out was necessary because he negged G4 easily. G5 (peak) + AdCoC. He did went all out here.
- still couldn't KO Kizaru.
- barely took any damage , one punch and he's out. Name me a Yonkou who would be down after landing one attack.
- types of Kaidou and Shanks would have murdered Kizaru and would be still standing.
 
I just can't see how anyone can keep reading these chapters and keep arguing against Luffy fighting Saturn.

The chapters keep beating you over the head that Nika is important to Bonney and Kuma's storyline.
At this point they're probably only arguing against it because they claimed Kizaru would be the arc villain and now they look like absolute fools for it as usual
 
straight up delusional lol
What’s delusional? If you mean those trying to claim temporarily knocking down an opponent as a defeat, then you’re right
:cheers:

There better not be any shocked Pikachu faces when Kizaru gets up and continues to showcase moves. Can’t be playing pretend on basic stuff after 1000 chapters…
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At this point they're probably only arguing against it because they claimed Kizaru would be the arc villain and now they look like absolute fools for it as usual
The only foolish thing here is pretending Durableguy’s projections have any bearings on anyone’s positions.
The only thing I’ve seen is some claiming that Kizaru is Luffy’s fight, not that he’s the arc villain. I believe it was @Paperchampion23 that was being harassed for that, but even he acknowledges that Saturn is the overall big bad even if Luffy’s main fight were to be Kizaru.

And again, you’d just be peas in a pod with them for looking like absolute fools for suggesting that it was Zoro fighting Kizaru instead
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What’s delusional? If you mean those trying to claim temporarily knocking down an opponent as a defeat, then you’re right
:cheers:

There better not be any shocked Pikachu faces when Kizaru gets up and continues to showcase moves. Can’t be playing pretend on basic stuff after 1000 chapters…
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The only foolish thing here is pretending Durableguy’s projections have any bearings on anyone’s positions.
The only thing I’ve seen is some claiming that Kizaru is Luffy’s fight, not that he’s the arc villain. I believe it was @Paperchampion23 that was being harassed for that, but even he acknowledges that Saturn is the overall big bad even if Luffy’s main fight were to be Kizaru.

And again, you’d just be peas in a pod with them for looking like absolute fools for suggesting that it was Zoro fighting Kizaru instead
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Nah, look back at the chapter where that cover with Luffy and Kizaru was released, people kept spamming about Kizaru being the arc villain lol
 
luffy vs don krieg

luffy with the decisive blow
luffy after the fight :

luffy still won

luffy vs crocodile

luffy with the decisive blow

luffy after the fight :

luffy still won

luffy vs lucci

luffy with the decisive blow

luffy after the fight :

luffy still won

there are still many more examples in the manga of luffy winning the fight but still getting fucked up in the end
that doesnt equate it into a" draw " the win always goes to luffy

but according to some retards , kizaru had a draw against luffy even tho he got the decisive blow


and was literally out of the fight after that attack
this guy narratively failed in his mission too which was to kill vegapunk and it was luffy's job to immobilise kizaru so that he doesnt go after vagapunk


calling this fight a draw is like calling luffy vs lucci a draw
u are simply neglecting how oda concludes fights and think a character who didnt even give out the decisive blow somehow equalled it into a tie
 
luffy vs don krieg

luffy with the decisive blow
luffy after the fight :

luffy still won

luffy vs crocodile

luffy with the decisive blow

luffy after the fight :

luffy still won

luffy vs lucci

luffy with the decisive blow

luffy after the fight :

luffy still won

there are still many more examples in the manga of luffy winning the fight but still getting fucked up in the end
that doesnt equate it into a" draw " the win always goes to luffy

but according to some retards , kizaru had a draw against luffy even tho he got the decisive blow


and was literally out of the fight after that attack
this guy narratively failed in his mission too which was to kill vegapunk and it was luffy's job to immobilise kizaru so that he doesnt go after vagapunk


calling this fight a draw is like calling luffy vs lucci a draw
u are simply neglecting how oda concludes fights and think a character who didnt even give out the decisive blow somehow equalled it into a tie
In all of those cases, Luffy remained conscious longer than his opponent, and his opponent was cleanly ko’ed. Here Luffy is ko’ed and his opponent is still conscious. I’ll also say I’d classify each of those cases as an extreme diff.
 
Nah, look back at the chapter where that cover with Luffy and Kizaru was released, people kept spamming about Kizaru being the arc villain lol
Like whom? Like I said, most of what I saw was that he would be the main arc fight, not that he was the arc villain.
In fact, most were comparing it to WCI were Big Mom was the villain while Luffy fought Katakuri. Or even Spandam in EL.
PaperChampion, Sir Yasheen, Kinyagi & Sakazuki had that position irc.

I’m pretty sure it was even one of the usual suspects trying to argue that whomever Luffy fights is the arc villain and had to be corrected.
 
Like whom? Like I said, most of what I saw was that he would be the main arc fight, not that he was the arc villain.
In fact, most were comparing it to WCI were Big Mom was the villain while Luffy fought Katakuri. Or even Spandam in EL.
PaperChampion, Sir Yasheen, Kinyagi & Sakazuki had that position irc.

I’m pretty sure it was even one of the usual suspects trying to argue that whomever Luffy fights is the arc villain and had to be corrected.
:seriously:Sure buddy what everyou say
 
What’s delusional? If you mean those trying to claim temporarily knocking down an opponent as a defeat, then you’re right
:cheers:

There better not be any shocked Pikachu faces when Kizaru gets up and continues to showcase moves. Can’t be playing pretend on basic stuff after 1000 chapters…

"i dont think i will be mobile anytime soon"
lol


In all of those cases, Luffy remained conscious longer than his opponent, and his opponent was cleanly ko’ed. Here Luffy is ko’ed and his opponent is still conscious. I’ll also say I’d classify each of those cases as an extreme diff.
luffy is not koed
he is still there
his g5 time limit just makes him look super fucked up

u can classify those cases as extreme diff but surely not luffy vs kizaru
as we know luffy still has a lot left in his bag

and the moment he used acoc , kizaru got rekt
cant call it an extreme diff like that
 
luffy vs don krieg

luffy with the decisive blow
luffy after the fight :

luffy still won

luffy vs crocodile

luffy with the decisive blow

luffy after the fight :

luffy still won

luffy vs lucci

luffy with the decisive blow

luffy after the fight :

luffy still won

there are still many more examples in the manga of luffy winning the fight but still getting fucked up in the end
that doesnt equate it into a" draw " the win always goes to luffy

but according to some retards , kizaru had a draw against luffy even tho he got the decisive blow


and was literally out of the fight after that attack
this guy narratively failed in his mission too which was to kill vegapunk and it was luffy's job to immobilise kizaru so that he doesnt go after vagapunk


calling this fight a draw is like calling luffy vs lucci a draw
u are simply neglecting how oda concludes fights and think a character who didnt even give out the decisive blow somehow equalled it into a tie
You’re getting very close…but it seems the common thread is still eluding you.

In all those cases, Luffy trumps his opponents’ best attacks then KO’s them for good at the end of the arc. He’s in better shape than them right after as well.

Now think long and hard about what possible differences there may be in the current case. It ain’t rocket science.
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No, it’s what others have said that’s the topic of discussion. I have nothing to do with it…so I’m not sure why you’re acting like I put words in others mouths.

It should be the easiest thing in the world to point to those claiming Kizaru is the arc villain.
I’m not omniscient and you could have seen some that I didn’t, so I don’t get your response
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"i dont think i will be mobile anytime soon"
lol



luffy is not koed
he is still there
his g5 time limit just makes him look super fucked up

u can classify those cases as extreme diff but surely not luffy vs kizaru
as we know luffy still has a lot left in his bag

and the moment he used acoc , kizaru got rekt
cant call it an extreme diff like that
Yes, Kizaru is getting up in a while and likely showcasing his higher end attacks…and?

I mean…did you think the regular beam he used before WSG was the best he could do?
That’s what you’re going for, lol?!
 
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You’re getting very close…but it seems the common thread is still eluding you.

In all those cases, Luffy trumps his opponents’ best attacks then KO’s them for good at the end of the arc. He’s in better shape than them right after as well.

Now think long and hard about what possible differences there may be in the current case. It ain’t rocket science.
we are not comparing entire scenarios here :milaugh:
the people i mentioned were the main arc villains unlike kizaru
what i wanted to show was luffy being in a terrible condition even after giving out the decisive blow doesnt mean it was a draw
think hard admiral bro :amazing:
fights in onepiece arent concluded with "A is in a better condition than B "
it ends with who made the decisive blow and whether the opponent is capable of fighting anymore
which in kizaru's case is clearly a NO

Yes, Kizaru is getting up in a while and likely showcasing his higher end attacks…and?

I mean…did you think the regular beam he used before WSG was the best he could do?
That’s what you’re going for, lol?!
and why does that exactly matter to the fight ?
kizaru was rekt before he was able to showcase his " higher end attacks "
 
we are not comparing entire scenarios here :milaugh:
the people i mentioned were the main arc villains unlike kizaru
what i wanted to show was luffy being in a terrible condition even after giving out the decisive blow doesnt mean it was a draw
think hard admiral bro :amazing:
fights in onepiece arent concluded with "A is in a better condition than B "
it ends with who made the decisive blow and whether the opponent is capable of fighting anymore
which in kizaru's case is clearly a NO


and why does that exactly matter to the fight ?
kizaru was rekt before he was able to showcase his " higher end attacks "
Why use main arc villains if you don’t think the comparison applies then?
Lol, then your argument doesn’t even work because it was not just Luffy being in terrible condition, but Luffy being in worse condition than his opponent. That still makes the win or draw claims ridiculous because it’s simply inconclusive.
Also, Spandam still counts as the main arc villain for EL btw.

And Kizaru is obviously still capable of fighting. He hasn’t even used any higher end moves let alone his trump card.
You do remember that being down for a moment isn’t the same as being defeated, right? Luffy literally does this almost every arc, so you can’t blame anything other than amnesia.
Again, did you think the regular ass laser Kizaru used was the best he could do? Think buddy, it ain’t hard. Are you really going to try and pretend that Kizaru isn’t getting up, lmao?!

Like I said, playing pretend just doesn’t work after 1000 chapters. An opponent is defeated when they use their best and get trumped and put down for good….not when you’re in a worse state and they just get up in a while.
 
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