Character Discussion Why do people downplay Blackbeard?
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cause Luffy speed blitzed him pre-ts that’s about it.
the only other excuse you hear is him not wanting to fight Akainu with his newly formed crew nor Shanks which he openly admitted “we’re” not ready for you yet that was more of a statement for crew vs crew Teachs crew would’ve been rocked rightfully so, and then the latest not fighting Rayleigh.
but I don’t see how someone on his caliber with solid Observation to gauge others actually understood regardless if he wins his crew would be heavily damaged or outright nonexistent after clashes with either one of the 3.
MF - Teach just barely reached phase 2 of his plan I guess lol Yami->Shichibukai to infiltrate ID & gain new crew members->gain Gura->whatever was next
I think he already solidified himself when he killed Thatch a YC for WB then went onto beating Ace with what mid/high diffs then bodied Marco and the remnants plus he was able to take over Hachinosu with help from Koby given Koby is relatively still weak I say it was more of numbers suppressing and Teach beat Wang in a 1on1 or else he wouldn’t actually be king there.
his crew was never strong to begin with outside of maybe Lafitte and Augor - he just gathered a group that was imprisoned so they are rusty unable to actually fight on par with an actual Yonko Crew and one who’s crew are all experts in Haki that was a solid call not wanting to actually fight there, for shanks concerns against him he let him walk so that also goes to show Teachs own caliber that Shanks didn’t pursue him. Akainu just became a FA edging out Aokiji another Admiral at best his second strongest at the time was Shiryuu who was I’d say YC2/3 levels then Akainu would’ve lost to Teach but his crew would’ve been gone in that exchange and Rayleigh he was was fine with losing some members and taking Hancock DF but you can’t underestimate the dark king as he has witnessed his prowess since he was a a kid and that just goes to show the level that Rayleigh was on compared to others as unlike WB he was still fresh and can use Haki at will. Wasn’t a good match up at that moment as he would’ve potentially had to 3v1 Koby, Hancock and Rayleig.
people just bitch and nitpick at anything that Luffy “wouldn’t do” even though we’ve seen Luffy choose to do things and get absolutely neg diff decimated where he almost lost his entire crews lives on several occasions.
it’s called being smart and knowing your strengths and weaknesses not stupidly charging head into every fight with brute force.
the only other excuse you hear is him not wanting to fight Akainu with his newly formed crew nor Shanks which he openly admitted “we’re” not ready for you yet that was more of a statement for crew vs crew Teachs crew would’ve been rocked rightfully so, and then the latest not fighting Rayleigh.
but I don’t see how someone on his caliber with solid Observation to gauge others actually understood regardless if he wins his crew would be heavily damaged or outright nonexistent after clashes with either one of the 3.
MF - Teach just barely reached phase 2 of his plan I guess lol Yami->Shichibukai to infiltrate ID & gain new crew members->gain Gura->whatever was next
I think he already solidified himself when he killed Thatch a YC for WB then went onto beating Ace with what mid/high diffs then bodied Marco and the remnants plus he was able to take over Hachinosu with help from Koby given Koby is relatively still weak I say it was more of numbers suppressing and Teach beat Wang in a 1on1 or else he wouldn’t actually be king there.
his crew was never strong to begin with outside of maybe Lafitte and Augor - he just gathered a group that was imprisoned so they are rusty unable to actually fight on par with an actual Yonko Crew and one who’s crew are all experts in Haki that was a solid call not wanting to actually fight there, for shanks concerns against him he let him walk so that also goes to show Teachs own caliber that Shanks didn’t pursue him. Akainu just became a FA edging out Aokiji another Admiral at best his second strongest at the time was Shiryuu who was I’d say YC2/3 levels then Akainu would’ve lost to Teach but his crew would’ve been gone in that exchange and Rayleigh he was was fine with losing some members and taking Hancock DF but you can’t underestimate the dark king as he has witnessed his prowess since he was a a kid and that just goes to show the level that Rayleigh was on compared to others as unlike WB he was still fresh and can use Haki at will. Wasn’t a good match up at that moment as he would’ve potentially had to 3v1 Koby, Hancock and Rayleig.
people just bitch and nitpick at anything that Luffy “wouldn’t do” even though we’ve seen Luffy choose to do things and get absolutely neg diff decimated where he almost lost his entire crews lives on several occasions.
it’s called being smart and knowing your strengths and weaknesses not stupidly charging head into every fight with brute force.
Oda could have done a better job with his crewmates from impel down
Vasco shot is ok and so is avalro, shiryuu is boring af. Catarina is pretty boring as well. Also Oda has a habit of dehyping opponents meant for the weaker crewmates. Blackbeard and his first appearance and build up is perfect. Though he was ruined ino when he begged WB for his life. That one moment tainted his character for me. Say what you will about Moria when he's faced with death he stares at it like a true pirate. Kurohige is still good just nit a dream villian like he could have been.
Also Aokiji being on the crew as a double agent or evenba legitimate member is just.. whatever.
Vasco shot is ok and so is avalro, shiryuu is boring af. Catarina is pretty boring as well. Also Oda has a habit of dehyping opponents meant for the weaker crewmates. Blackbeard and his first appearance and build up is perfect. Though he was ruined ino when he begged WB for his life. That one moment tainted his character for me. Say what you will about Moria when he's faced with death he stares at it like a true pirate. Kurohige is still good just nit a dream villian like he could have been.
Also Aokiji being on the crew as a double agent or evenba legitimate member is just.. whatever.
Imo Oda clearly favors some members of the BB pirate (no particular order):
1. Van Augur - Looked cool in Blackbeard vs Law fight
2. Shiryu - Got some solid credit from stabbing through Garp
3. Lafitte - The only BB Pirate never to have a bad showing
4. Pizarro - Took a combined effort of Garp Coby and Grus just to stop Pizarro from destroying the ship
These are also the four Blackbeard pirates that were with BB when Luffy became the fifth emperor too so these are probably going to be main villains
1. Van Augur - Looked cool in Blackbeard vs Law fight
2. Shiryu - Got some solid credit from stabbing through Garp
3. Lafitte - The only BB Pirate never to have a bad showing
4. Pizarro - Took a combined effort of Garp Coby and Grus just to stop Pizarro from destroying the ship
These are also the four Blackbeard pirates that were with BB when Luffy became the fifth emperor too so these are probably going to be main villains
There are 3 reasons for Blackbeard downplay
1) Erkan - guy coz of his agenda was able to drive many Z bois against BB just to get under Erkan nerves despite liking BB
2) Power level - Many people don't care about personality characterisation. To them, it's all about power levels and feats.
If you show some godly feats, they will become fan of yours. I mean just look at Kaido fan base - many simply like him coz of his strength and feats. 🤷
It's like they deliberately wanks strong characters with feats...
And, to add, people don't feel much tension with Blackbeard.
This is kind of absurd. I mean Luffy is a yonkou now. He is at top level. How on earth you feel tension when you are almost at your peak? Not to mention, Blackbeard hasn't even got his arc and proper hype yet.
He is still doing what he was doing since Jaya arc.... growing himself
3) Blackbeard portrayal - His portrayal come across as coward. He has been portrayed as a villain - defeated Ace, Law (favourite characters of many) thus hated by many and most importantly, he isn't your typical villain which we have seen so far. Even his looks works against him as he doesn't look badass like kaido or cool like doffy or croc...
But I think he is the best fleshed out character bar SHs in one piece.
He has been portrayed as not some massive monster but there is touch of different sorts of personality traits we humans have.
You gotta see the depth Blackbeard has as a character to like him - coward, cunning, jealousy, determination, zeal, patience, sadness, opportunistic, strength, authoritative and so on....
He and luffy are two sides of same coin.
Where luffy ends up growing as nice kid, BB circumstances drove him to become an evil villain.
1) Erkan - guy coz of his agenda was able to drive many Z bois against BB just to get under Erkan nerves despite liking BB
2) Power level - Many people don't care about personality characterisation. To them, it's all about power levels and feats.
If you show some godly feats, they will become fan of yours. I mean just look at Kaido fan base - many simply like him coz of his strength and feats. 🤷
It's like they deliberately wanks strong characters with feats...
And, to add, people don't feel much tension with Blackbeard.
This is kind of absurd. I mean Luffy is a yonkou now. He is at top level. How on earth you feel tension when you are almost at your peak? Not to mention, Blackbeard hasn't even got his arc and proper hype yet.
He is still doing what he was doing since Jaya arc.... growing himself
3) Blackbeard portrayal - His portrayal come across as coward. He has been portrayed as a villain - defeated Ace, Law (favourite characters of many) thus hated by many and most importantly, he isn't your typical villain which we have seen so far. Even his looks works against him as he doesn't look badass like kaido or cool like doffy or croc...
But I think he is the best fleshed out character bar SHs in one piece.
He has been portrayed as not some massive monster but there is touch of different sorts of personality traits we humans have.
You gotta see the depth Blackbeard has as a character to like him - coward, cunning, jealousy, determination, zeal, patience, sadness, opportunistic, strength, authoritative and so on....
He and luffy are two sides of same coin.
Where luffy ends up growing as nice kid, BB circumstances drove him to become an evil villain.
I like Kaidou for his personality, design, etc. personally.
His power is one of the reasons of course but still.
So there's certainly fans of him that like him for more than his power level.
@MonsterKaido is like that too I think.
His power is one of the reasons of course but still.
So there's certainly fans of him that like him for more than his power level.
@MonsterKaido is like that too I think.
It’s because of how he’s written. We’re supposed to dislike Blackbeard so that his defeat is all the more satisfying. He’s a character written to be opportunistic, somewhat cowardly and dishonorable. Many readers like those aspects of him as a villain but most readers will naturally root for his downfall because again, he’s written to be unlikable.
