Yes. Kyou En wasn’t just a GG but a head of state military lol. But they were generals in Zhao so I gauge them as generals. Who knows what rank Mougou or Choutou would hold in a small state.
If we exclude the Heavenly King caliber tho, yeah probably all GGs > all non Chu generals.
Not bad at all actually. I’m noticing this template doesn’t have Earl Shi on there. This is sacrilege. I’m assuming you would’ve put him in Wei 7 tier which is probably the correct tier.
Alright some thoughts:
-I really strongly believe this forum has severely underestimated both Kanmei and Moubu. I don’t know how so many people can put Kanmei and Oukotsu in the same tier. It’s just a mystery to me. Looking at your list, I have no idea how people like Rinshoujou and Shouheikun are supposed to beat these two. Rinshoujou’s best defense was overcame by Shin, imagine what Kanmei or Moubu would do to it. Idk, I could rant on this matchup for a long time but I just don’t see Rinshoujou or Ousen above these guys. I would count them in that same tier.
-Is the forum consensus that Gakuhaku Kou is Heavenly King tier? This pleases me if so. @RayanOO ’s slander campaign has ended in miserable failure. Lol
-People say I don’t like Rokuomi, but you really did Rokuomi dirty here lol. I would bump him up a tier.
-I must be the only person on WorstGen who wasn’t even remotely impressed by Raido. Literally I don’t think he had a single feat that made me think of him as being above 5K commander level.
-My man forgot about Zuocci and Chousou lol. Zuocci ain’t a general so he’s unrankable really, Chousou would go in the good general tier of your list.
-Is the forum consensus that Gakuhaku Kou is Heavenly King tier? This pleases me if so. @RayanOO ’s slander campaign has ended in miserable failure. Lol
-I must be the only person on WorstGen who wasn’t even remotely impressed by Raido. Literally I don’t think he had a single feat that made me think of him as being above 5K commander level.
Zenou never defeated anyone noteworthy and the likes of Kisui and Bafuuji were able to survive encounters with him. He is good at what he does, but let's not disrespect Heavenly Kings.
All H4 and the likes of same level (Gyou Un, Banana, likely Kansaro etc) are all monsters martially (except Genpou) + have great warfare understanding or unique traits
I prefer to have a Banana a Gyou Un or a Kaishibou all day compared to a Zenou
All H4 and the likes of same level (Gyou Un, Banana, likely Kansaro etc) are all monster martially (except Genpou) + have great warfare understanding or unique traits
I prefer to have a Banana a Gyou Un or a Kaishibou all day compared to a Zenou
Riboku had to babysit Bananji so he doesn't get crushed by Zenou
I'm taking most of these HK level Vassals like Gyou'Un, Akou etc.. over him but let's not act like Zenou can't crush some of these guys
He belongs in that tier maybe towards the lower end but he's not a tier below them
Riboku had to babysit Bananji so he doesn't get crushed by Zenou
I'm taking most of these HK level Vassals like Gyou'Un, Akou etc.. over him but let's not act like Zenou can't crush some of these guys
He belongs in that tier maybe towards the lower end but he's not a tier below them
Yeah but this thread isn't about scaling just their strength, it is a commander scaling list that considers the overall abilities of each character as a General.
Ignoring the fact that Zenou was never a General, even if Zenou could crush Akou/Bananji/Gyou'un in a fight, those three can easily realise that they aren't winning a duel and simply switch over to dealing with Zenou through tactics. Zenou had no answer to a tactical counter because he is just a bipedal battering ram.
That talks about the Zenou Clan overall, not Zenou alone. The Shuma Clan got compared to the Zenou Clan in overall capability but I sure wouldn't call Shuma a martial equal to Zenou.
Besides, I call bull on that statement since there is no way an injured Moubu would have been stalled by the fodder troops protecting Riboku from Zenou. Moubu was plowing through the Chu HQ after an extreme diff fight with Kanmei that left him an arm down.
If an equally injured Moubu was switched with Zenou in that scenario, Riboku would be dead. Lol.
If Zenou was the commander in chief of an army (lol) and going up against a General leading a similar one - let alone an Heavenly King - he'd get cooked. He is no General.
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