Speculations Kizaru won the fight against Luffy

#82
And then he stopped using it while using Snakeman? Lol.
Zoro is using it against Lucci and can't get past his claws, COCless Luffy had a much better performance against the same opponent.
COC is not the autowin you want it to be. You need to land clean hits for it to be effective, Kizaru easily parried and blitzed snakeman at point blank. Luffy would just waste his already mediocre stamina in G4 and G5 for an opponent he has trouble tagging unlike damage sponge Kaido.
Oda has been careful to never draw Luffy's COA with black lightning since Wano started, that was 200 chapters ago. Somehow he decided to break that pattern one time... just because.
The only reason why people even deny Luffy's kick was imbued with COC is because Kizaru easily blocked it instead of having his arm broken.
But I'm not really interested in arguing about that again.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#84
Oda has been careful to never draw Luffy's COA with black lightning since Wano started, that was 200 chapters ago. Somehow he decided to break that pattern one time... just because.
So what about the lightning against Lucci? Lool.

You confidently talk about CoCless Luffy three shotting Lucci where there was lightning but here you cope about people ignoring "lighting".

All of this to gift Kizaru wank feats that he doesn't deserve.
 
#85
So what about the lightning against Lucci? Lool.

You confidently talk about CoCless Luffy three shotting Lucci where there was lightning but here you cope about people ignoring "lighting".

All of this to gift Kizaru wank feats that he doesn't deserve.
There is no lightning in Luffy's Dawn Rocket or Mole Pistol attacks on Lucci small or otherwise
 
#88



So what about the lightning against Lucci? Lool.

You confidently talk about CoCless Luffy three shotting Lucci where there was lightning but here you cope about people ignoring "lighting".

All of this to gift Kizaru wank feats that he doesn't deserve.
There was only black lightning when there was a clash, clashes have their own visual rules. If you can show me one panel of black lightning when Luffy hits Lucci, be my guest

"No wank feats" here. You're the one who have to PROVE Oda suddenly represented Luffy's COA with black lightning when he has bene consistent with Luffy's COA for 200 chapters by now. THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON COC DENIERS NOT ON ME


THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON COC DENIERS NOT ON ME
 
#92
ODA HAS BEEN CONSISTENT IN HOW LUFFY'S COA IS REPRESENTED FOR THE LAST 200 CHAPTERS, EVEN AFTER THAT SCENE (EVERYONE AGREED LUFFY WAS JUST USING COA IN SNAKEMAN) AND I'M THE ONE WHO GET ACCUSED OF BEING BIASED BECAUSE KIZARU BLOCKING BASE LUFFY COC KICK SHATTER THEIR WORLDVIEW LMAO
HEY GENIUS ARAMAKI SHRUGGED OFF YAMATO ACOC CHEAPSHOT TO THE BACK OF THE HEAD, KUZAN GARP THE FIRST ACOC UPPERCUT TO THE CHIN AND LUCCI IS CURRENTLY CLASHING WITH KING OF HUFFS ACOC IMBUED SWORDS WITH HIS CLAWS. WHAT KIZARU DID IS NOTHING SPECIAL NO NEED TO BE IN DENIAL LMAO.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#93
There was only black lightning when there was a clash, clashes have their own visual rules. If you can show me one panel of black lightning when Luffy hits Lucci, be my guest
And what was Kizaru v. Luffy if not a clash?
What are these visual rules in clashes?
Did Oda tell you those?

"No wank feats" here. You're the one who have to PROVE Oda suddenly represented Luffy's COA with black lightning when he has bene consistent with Luffy's COA for 200 chapters by now. THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS COC DENIERS NOT ON ME
Quite the opposite, in this very arc - you have virtually no explanation for the Lucci scene and are simply brushing it under the rug.

Your own criterion is flawed, and you want others to agree with it totally.

ODA HAS BEEN CONSISTENT IN HOW LUFFY'S COA IS REPRESENTED FOR THE LAST 200 CHAPTERS, EVEN AFTER THAT SCENE (EVERYONE AGREED LUFFY WAS JUST USING COA IN SNAKEMAN) AND I'M THE ONE WHO GET ACCUSED OF BEING BIASED BECAUSE KIZARU BLOCKING BASE LUFFY COC KICK SHATTER THEIR WORLDVIEW LMAO
HEY GENIUS ARAMAKI SHRUGGED OFF YAMATO ACOC CHEAPSHOT TO THE BACK OF THE HEAD, KUZAN GARP THE FIRST ACOC UPPERCUT TO THE CHIN AND LUCCI IS CURRENTLY CLASHING WITH KING OF HUFFS ACOC IMBUED SWORDS WITH HIS CLAWS. WHAT KIZARU DID IS NOTHING SPECIAL NO NEED TO BE IN DENIAL LMAO.
No need to have another meltdown bruh lool.
 
#95
ODA HAS BEEN CONSISTENT IN HOW LUFFY'S COA IS REPRESENTED FOR THE LAST 200 CHAPTERS, EVEN AFTER THAT SCENE (EVERYONE AGREED LUFFY WAS JUST USING COA IN SNAKEMAN) AND I'M THE ONE WHO GET ACCUSED OF BEING BIASED BECAUSE KIZARU BLOCKING BASE LUFFY COC KICK SHATTER THEIR WORLDVIEW LMAO
HEY GENIUS ARAMAKI SHRUGGED OFF YAMATO ACOC CHEAPSHOT TO THE BACK OF THE HEAD, KUZAN GARP THE FIRST ACOC UPPERCUT TO THE CHIN AND LUCCI IS CURRENTLY CLASHING WITH KING OF HUFFS ACOC IMBUED SWORDS WITH HIS CLAWS. WHAT KIZARU DID IS NOTHING SPECIAL NO NEED TO BE IN DENIAL LMAO.
Its just yonkotards excuse to downplay admirals who did not show it.

Now it backfired because Kizaru without acoc outlasted G5 Luffy , while on the other side Kaido with constant usage of Acoc lost to the same G5 Luffy :suresure:.
 
#98
Where did bro read that?
Dude just makes up his own arguments to reframe when he's "right" in the future lol. You can see how his goalposting changes. It went from "Kizaru will never get up" to "Stupid, its OBVIOUS the Marines will lose".

Like no shit, weve been saying they will lose this arc, you just dont want Luffy to fight Kizaru specifically lmao

Old man yelling at cloud mentality
 
#99
Did Kizaru hit Luffy? Dont remember. Did Kizaru k.o Luffy?

Did Kizaru catch Vegapunk? Nope


What did Kizaru accomplish? Get up faster?

Thats great for someone running away trying to not fight Luffy.
KIzaru did hit luffy.

Luffy himself said he almost died after he got kicked into 2 barriers.

What did Luffy accomplish ???

He landed a hit on Kizaru who was before that fighting someone else, both got on the ground only difference is Kizaru got up on his own faster and without outside help while Luffy had to be feed by someone in order to continue foghting.

I guess yonkotards have fallen so low that now landing a hit is considered a victory :gokulaugh:.
 
KIzaru did hit luffy.

Luffy himself said he almost died after he got kicked into 2 barriers.

What did Luffy accomplish ???

He landed a hit on Kizaru who was before that fighting someone else, both got on the ground only difference is Kizaru got up on his own faster and without outside help while Luffy had to be feed by someone in order to continue foghting.

I guess yonkotards have fallen so low that now landing a hit is considered a victory :gokulaugh:.

Those barriers aint Kizaru's power... great.

What did Luffy accomplish? Mmm stopping Kizaru maybe? Which was Kizaru's goal.....
 
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