Spoiler One Piece Chapter 984 Spoilers Discussion

[Seth]

200 pages in can start my circus act now @TheAncientCenturion ?

 

[Paperchampion23]

Any chances Yamato convinced Kaido to travel to Marineford and stop Ace's execution? Could Shanks be the real villain here?

Honestly, lemme take a leap here for a minute:

- Kaido loves his daughter enough to acknowledge her "male" appearance and inspiration. It seems like he does care about her enough to want his "son" at the party and has a group to go out and look for "him".

- Yamato knows Ace, seemingly friends with him. This is signficant.

- Kaido DOES respect Whitebeard. Hes jealous he died on his own terms, which Kaido can't do. Kaido also likely got along with Newgate when on the Rocks Pirates, all things considering.

- Yamato may or may not have heard of Ace's Execution. This prompts her to beg her father to help Whitebeard. Perhaps he accepts.

- Shanks stops Kaido for an unspecfied reason.


So yes, maybe we were tricked into believing Shanks wanted to stop Kaido to help WB, but instead he stopped Kaido to force WB's death.


I really think Shanks has been playing the long game.

 

[Hades]

Idk if this is a bait bruh.. but not a single soul even in the Zoro fandom, believes that the man is admiral level. lol.

not a single soul....sure....

 

[BOCCHI]

Yamato isn't Wano native people, she is still the daughter of person who invaded and destroyed Wano, and apparently she cares more about Oden in specific than Wano in general.

She inherited his will which is to open wano. That’s all that matter.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

200 pages in can start my circus act now @TheAncientCenturion ?

No. Wait for 300 now.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

huh?

its a woman
the beard was part of the mask
having a feminine face and a beard makes no sense at all.
the spoiler was dead on.

 

[Crush]

And once again, it is not about being the direct bloodline, it is more about the inherit will. While Luffy has the will of roger, Yamato has Odens. It is not Ace and it is not Momo, there are better people to follow the will.

I guess Yamato will go with Luffy for some time and when she comes back, she will be the shogun of wano.

The thing is, Yamato is a bit different. Luffy's will was his from the start. It happened by chance that his will was similar if not the same as Roger's.

Yamato, yes, she was inspired by Oden but she apparently emulated Oden almost obsessively. It's quite unnatural compared to the usual "inherited will" that Oda portrays. His retainers carry Oden's will but never did they ever try to emulate his mannerisms, etc. Neither did Luffy with Roger. That's because though they are different personality-wise, they still carried his will without having to bend their character to fit Oden's wishes.

I think this could be a chance for Oden to look into the psychology of Yamato. She has to realize her own self rather than trying to be Oden. So in a sense, she isn't her true self yet until she takes off the facade of Oden.

And no, she won't be the shogun. :/

 

[ShadyOjiro]

She's part of Oden religion so she shares his views.

But that doesn't mean she inherited his will.

That's Momo I think .

 

[Topi Jerami]

She inherited his will which is to open wano. That’s all that matter.

If all what it takes to be Shogun of Wano is spamming open border crap, then 9 scabbards have spammed it way more than her.

 

[sanjikun]

- Yamato may or may not have heard of Ace's Execution. This prompts her to beg her father to help Whitebeard. Perhaps he accepts.

- Shanks stops Kaido for an unspecfied reason.

Shanks obviously stopped him because he was going to fuck up Whitebeard.

All Kaido at MF was, was an excuse for Oda to keep Shanks away until the last minute. Remember Shanks wanted to help Whitebeard. Ace was Roger's son, and Luffy was his heir.

 

[Seth]

Okay goodnight everyone time for 5 hours sleep before noon shift


ps. Kaido for the carring dad award



ps. V2 holy fuck I forget I have days off.

See what Oda did to me? Anyways timw for some sleep before I don't know what. Cya

 

[KINGKONGGUN15]

its a woman
the beard was part of the mask
having a feminine face and a beard makes no sense at all.

yea i understand that now. was stupid of me. i actually like the decision oda has taken with yamato. its refreshing

 

[Master OF Haki]

For sure, dude is essentially an Oden jr. at this point:

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With exception that Denjiro is much smarter than Oden and Oden was much stronger than Denjiro.

 

[OEKaneki]

Kaido beating Yamato probably is like how Garp would hit Luffy. I don't think he beat her abusively. It probably was a snack to the head for having that belief in Oden. She clearly is hiding stuff from Kaido, but I feel like Kaido respects Yamato, especially by playing along and calling her "son"

This reads pretty naively, to be honest. Garp is a way better person than Kaido. Kaido is an alcoholic. She walked up to Kaido, told him that she wanted to be like one of his greatest enemies who he shot in the skull and killed. Kaido is not a dude to be like Garp. Big Mom beat the hell out of Chiffon, why would Kaido be any different?

 

[Yasuda]

Imagine Yamato and Denjiro meeting and geeking out over Oden lmao

 

[Sade]

Every chapter that wanks that "sub - character" like Oden deserve to not be read.
The flashback that ruined Wano, the character that isn't actually a character but it's just Oda's wet dream / forced to be liked.
Made dumb with questionable decisions, and ruined a potentially interesting character like Toki.

 

[sanjikun]

She inherited his will which is to open wano. That’s all that matter.

Yeah but what after?

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

lmao
kaido swallowers already damage controlling the fact he smashes his daughter

 

[Buusatan94]

Yamato is just to Oden what Bartolomeo is to Luffy, an obsessive fan girl but who will not be Oden's sucessor even if she'll help realize his wishes.

 

[Hades]

People...Yamato is not going to inherit Oden's well....she is just Oden's Bartholomeo.....a fan girl....