@Logiko
I'm just going to drop the fact that you, as the leader of the revolution, will need to have to gather like minded people and have these people as your underlings and party members.

As for the people who disagree with your views, it wasn't the first time that the people who harbored and expressed such thoughts were dealt with (and their fates were pretty much sealed shortly after). For a grand vision to come to fruition exactly as intended, certain freedoms that the citizens had previously must be sacrificed after all.

As for why I'm bringing all of this up, your version of real progress can only come when the structures of power that currently exist are completely toppled.

After the revolution succeeds, you would end up with a single leader, the ones closest to the leaders, and the followers and the rest of the population. I just hope too many people don't disagree with your take on a society
 
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Checked their work and... Yeah no.. Esoterism, new age and quantum mindset BS is not really my jam.
So you dont think he is actually channeling an alien?!?!?!?!
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In fact. Be careful when you come across this type of content. Because at best you will be in brought by those guys into a quantum frequency leveled journey that might just make you buy a few expensive toys... and at worst, you will be sucked into a circle of pseudoscientific belief that might make you fall into a real dangerous cult or a dangerous cultist belief system.
Ive only seen a couple vids of his tbh. I thought one interview was kinda interesting though
 
"I'm just going to drop the fact that you, as the leader of the revolution, will need to have to gather like minded people and have these people as your underlings and party members."
First, no need for a revolution right now, at least not in the west. We just need to reform the institutions and move out liberals, conservative, libertarian and cryptofascist out of power.

We we can't do that with the help of the institution, then we can talk about revolution (Russian and chinese might wanna think about this right now for example)

Second, careful, when you start talking about your party members as your underlings.. its not a good sign for democracy.

As for the people who disagree with your views, it wasn't the first time that the people who harbored and expressed such thoughts were dealt with (and their fates were pretty much sealed shortly after).
This is dictature... let's not do that.[/QUOTE]

Removing liberals from power and fighting liberal ideas doesn't mean that we should put rightist in jail.

It means that we must fight them politically. I know that rightists think that saying that capitalism is hurtfull is already communism but let's stay calm here...

For a grand vision to come to fruition exactly as intended, certain freedoms that the citizens had previously must be sacrificed after all.
If we are talking about the freedom of owning guns or to say that trans or people of colors are the problem of society.. well yeah.. I agree with that. Those freedom shouldn't exist in the public space.

If we are talking about normal freedom of speech, and human rights then no. I do not agree.

As for why I'm bringing all of this up, your version of real progress can only come when the structures of power that currently exist are completely toppled.
Not necessaraly, progress can come during the transition. But structures of power will need to be dealt with to go beyond, yes.

After the revolution succeeds, you would end up with a single leader, the ones closest to the leaders, and the followers and the rest of the population. I just hope too many people don't disagree with your take on a society
No. Not necessaraly. It could indeed go wrong.. like any change of power.. or it could go right if people follow a real progressist and antiliberal mindset: In france there is a party that is trying to create a new way of thinking the institutions, we call it the "sixth republic". It stands on the basis that the executive power (the president and the ministers) have too much power and that we need a better representation of the people and more power to the people.

Its not perfect, but its already better than every other propositions. In France, it would look like that:

1- You elect a president that will call a specific type of assembly "the constituante" composed by elected people and people chosen at random
2- "The constituante" will right a new constitution with new added foundamental rights. (right for abortion for example). it will be a process of back and forth between this assembly and the work of the people.
3- The president holds a referedum to make the population approve or disprove of the text. If its approved, we move to the next step, if its not, the "constituante" rewrite the text. And it goes on until the population approves of the text and create the contitution of the 6th republic. Every modification of said constitution will be held with a referundum.
3Bis - In fact, every group of citizen who manage to get a significant number of signature will be able to invocate the holding of a new referundum to delete a law, revocate a treaty or add something in the constitution.

The structure of power would therefore be created and regulated by this new constitution. So you can expect a new type of political structure, much more representative and close to the needs of the people with actions like:

- A minimum wage of 1400€
- A maximum wage authorized in the business (the maximum wage must not grow over 20 times the minimum wage in the same business)
- Financial help (around 1060€) for young people that are alone to pay for their studies and housing
- The green rule with an ecological planification (Listing of ressources we take from the earth), it consist in not taking more in nature that what nature can create.
- Taxation of big inheritances
- Refound the Police
- A progressive taxation based on the income of the population
Etc.

So you can expect a more representative type of power structure that we have now and therefore something far more equal, equitable and close to the needs of the people. If every country start to do that.. we might see the end of capitalism and neo liberalism.

That's for part one. For part two we might even see the world drift into new form of system.. Maybe something communist ? An anarchy perhaps ? Something new ? We don't know... but as long as people don't believe in the myth of single heroes saving the world.. we should be safe from despote taking over the power and creating apocalyptic societies.

So you dont think he is actually channeling an alien?!?!?!?!
Yup... I think we should be very careful about this type of content. It can quickly escalate into cultism.
 
It's a strange act because causing one's own death isn't an effective means of protest.
Self immolation as a form of protest has a long standing tradition in some Buddhist denominations for example. It's nothing new.
Violence against yourself is still violence or not?
I'd argue that the act of not standing by one's beliefs and values is a form of violence against oneself.
Maybe it was a podcaster who escaped North Korea, but I believe I heard her say that where she was from the penalty for attempted suicide was death.

I don't think that is the only place I heard of that considers suicide a violent crime.
You might be thinking of medieval Europe where people who killed themselves didn't even receive a proper burial and their bodies thrown in the river.
 
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Herrera95

That's such a stupid buzzword you'll use to describe anything you disagree with, peak brain-rot.
Nope. Wokeness is a term everyone knows what they defend. You are just playing Logiko now when I called him a woke amd he denied only to later identify as one and be proud of it.
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Because you are too oblivious, stupid, sociopathic and overall a poor retard. You lack the basic empathy and understanding of reality to understand what does it mean for a human to take his life for his ideals.
I have enough empathy to not use another human being death to make my political propaganda
 
I just mean Russians dude
Macronleon just announced that sending troops in Ukraine was an option :endthis:

Swedes who just signed in for NATO are like "ugh wtf"

Slovakia who is pro-Russian is against it...

Poland's PM Donald Tusk is on the same line as Slovakia...........

The Grande Armée will stop the Russians on their own :steef::steef:
 
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Herrera95

Macronleon just announced that sending troops in Ukraine was an option :endthis:

Swedes who just signed in for NATO are like "ugh wtf"

Slovakia who is pro-Russian is against it...

Poland's PM Donald Tusk is on the same line as Slovakia...........

The Grande Armée will stop the Russians on their own :steef::steef:
Geopolitics are overcomplicate.

NATO and the World as a whole need to be sure Russia don't get comfortable enough to keep invading countries. But if they go too deep they risk of starting WWIII.

Russia actually losing it is very unlikely just like then giving up the Crimeria territory. Best solution would be an agreement where the borders keep as the ones before this war.

At the end of the day. Trump as always right. Europe got too comfortable with Russia. The sanctions back at 2014 were too weak. And Biden is too weak of a leader to prevent Putin doing what he wants how he wants.
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Also, I don't know any of @Herrera95 previous posts, so without that knowledge I find y'alls response to his reply a bit harsh. I often get tired, of politics trying to take advantage of tragedies. As I'm sure there are scenarios you also feel like the right uses to see their message when it comes to tragic events. According to y'all, I'm somewhere from center-right to bigot and there are even scenarios I see right-leaning people use that make me cringe.
The thing going on here is basically left vs right.

The far left call anyone on their bit right of far right extremists nazists fascist and whatever bad name you can find in the political spectrum related to the right.

The guy even lied about me thinking all Palestinians are terrorists and I want them dead.

All I talk is that Hamas is a terrorist group. Palestinians are sick of Hamas. And yes terrorists must to die. Also that Israel can't stop until they find all refugees and possibly kill Hamas group once for all. Also they deny that UNWRA was actively helping Hamas on their terrorists attacks and also deny that Hamas is a terrorist group.
 
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Wanna talk about Socialism real quick cause there are some misconceptions. Socialism is an umbrella term for the belief that the means of production and exchange should be controlled by the workers or community as a whole. There are numerous variations of socialism, and socialism in general is anti-capitlaistic. There's one socialist ideology that isn't anti-capitalistic which is Social Democracy. A social democracy instead tries to find the sweet spot between socialism and capitalism.

America has an extensive socialist, but not anti-capitalist history. Back in the day, work hours, work days and pay rate weren't mandated and the owner could make you do whatever he wanted or you're fired. There was also no annual leave, sick leave, or paternity leave, along with a ton of child labor. 7 day, 12 hours work weeks with shit pay and no benefits was very common. This type of capitalism is what lead to the Russian revolutions and scared the hell outta America. FDR's New Deal which granted lots of worker rights was a means to prevent a worker revolt, and there were many worker protests during that time and before. Worker rights and unions are socialist in nature.
Agreed.

My issue is with people that call themselves socialists (or worse Marxist-without even reading his books) because it always turns out that they are wanna be dictators. Those people are unable to manage their own lives and think they can create a utopia (where they would never be the workers in the factory but the elite-of course). I despise those people. That's why I mentioned it in opposition to my views.
 
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