Break Week How can you enjoy Kaido in Wano arc?

#61
Kaido was never scared of Oden. There’s a difference between not fighting someone because you’re too scared to fight him, and not fighting someone because you’re smart enough to realize that you can just play the long game and increase your odds of winning
But why if Kaido is beast? Why if Kaido has no fear? Why if Kaido is strong enough to defeat him right there and not spend five years? Why except the way he defeated Oden when he could give Oden second chance? Why he let Orochi to increase the temperature? Why he didn't keep his word? Conclusion he's a caword and a Big one.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#63
Lol wtf is this post. Oden and his men were planning to kill Kaido while he was drunk, but Kaido confronted them directly in a fair fight. LOL so the Scabbards are fodders, but those 1000 men that Kaido had weren’t?
Kaido had kanjuro feeding him info.
So it wasnt even 10.
Id take 1000 fodders over 5.
 
#68
Hi, this is not a thread about Kaido or Oden necessarily, but rather my curiosity to find out how you view Kaido as a character and how can you enjoy him. First, I will tell how and what I think about Kaido and then I would try to understand your prospective on that character.

1. When Kaido was first introduced I was so hyped about Wano arc when the only thing I could think about was Wano and Kaido's power and his strength etc. And I wasn't alone an entire fan base just exploded with emotions and expectations about that arc. Thousands of theories have been made over the years before Wano arc, trying to understand Kaido's powers, why can't he die, who is going to kill Kaido, or whether he will die in Wano or not. Kaido was promised to be a beast, not just a beast but "The King of the Beasts" I've never seen a character wanked this hard in one piece and outside of one piece. Then, Oda introduced Jack, the guy was so cool that people thought he was Kaido's right hand man and back then he was an absolute beast, he was destroying everything around he wasn't there just to get Raizo but also to kill and destroy. Jack was bloodlust, mad, Big and fearless everything that defined beasts, seeing Jack attacking two Admirals whiteout glimpse of a doubt or fear raised my expectations for Kaido to unbelievable amount. Then, came Wano...
:saitahu:
And all my expectations were shattered to pieces.

Kaido the caword
Kaido was afraid of Oden, the man was shiting his pants nonstop, Kaido new that he wasn't strong enough to defeat Oden so he and Orochi made up a plan to blackmail Oden since Kaido was shiting his pants just thinking about fighting against him.

If Kaido wasn't afraid of Oden he would have fought against him right there but he was scared as fack and he was perfectly fine with the idea to blackmail Oden. And Look at Kaido's face, he's like really afraid of Oden you could see the fear in his face, just for comparison look at Kaido when he's fighting against Moria and Oden.

Ahhhahahaha. I'm laughing outloud, Kaido is a b:ch and caword. Look how brave he is when he's fighting against Moria who is weaker than him and shiting his pants while facing Oden.

He was perfectly fine with the way he defeated Oden and I thought Kaido was one of those who uses dirty tricks to defeat his enemies, but no...

Oda made Kaido a "fair" 😂 fighter confirming that Kaido is a caword, dispite the fact that he wasn't happy what happened during their fight he didn't give Oden a second fight on tap of that he let Orochi to increase the temperature of the oil since he didn't want Oden to survive (he was afraid of him) look at him

This is a face of a man who need new pair of pants 😂😂😂, all sweaty, afraid and happy that he survived.

Kaido is scared just by the idea of Oden surviving, he dosen't wanna give him a chance to survive, man, Kaido is a bigger scumbag than Orochi is.

Look at Oden, recovered from his wounds faster than a fack:ng Zoan user when Kaido's body is still cowered with bandages, Oden's body is stronger than a fuck:ng mythical Zoan user's body 😂😂😂😂 this is ridiculous, Oden's superiority over Kaido is mindboggling. A none DF user's body is stronger than the body of a mythical Zoan user
:myman: Oda what are you smoking?

After 969/970 I laugh outloud every time I see Kaido, people still view him badass and strong because Oda draws him Big and muscular (at least I think so) at this point Kaido is a laughing stack for me and I can't enjoy his character. So, please tell me what you think about him and how you can still enjoy his character?

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Well I just skimmed through your thread and sorry my man, I gotta agree with @Shiroyru , you really saying nothing of substance here.

I don't even know what the purpose of your thread is, what detail you tryna show that an average viewer might have missed, what are you trying to deduce with multiple premises you provided?

I don't feel like this thread is needed.
 
#70
Stop acting dumb. Oden was about to kill kaido before the old hag saved him. Thats the whole point.
Thats your opinion not a fact. You don't know what would of happened.
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Im not talking declarations im talking oden above his fucking neck about to kill him.
I am talking about that he wouldn't, like Katakuri above Luffy with his spear but missed. That can happen in every fight.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#72
Thats your opinion not a fact. You don't know what would of happened.
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I am talking about that he wouldn't, like Katakuri above Luffy with his spear but missed. That can happen in every fight.

Not my opinion, if not for interference kaido is dead, manga is unarguable.
 
#74
Well I just skimmed through your thread and sorry my man, I gotta agree with @Shiroyru , you really saying nothing of substance here.

I don't even know what the purpose of your thread is, what detail you tryna show that an average viewer might have missed, what are you trying to deduce with multiple premises you provided?

I don't feel like this thread is needed.
Lol my favorite part is him using a panel of Kaido after he got cut and saying that it’s Kaido reacting to Oden surviving the boiling. Now I’m gonna take a panel of Akainu spitting up blood after getting hit by WB and claim that it’s Akainu getting rekt by Marco
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#75
That was 20 years ago Kaido, a Kaido confirmed to be weaker than current Kaido. I guess that Aokiji is a weakling compared to Prime Garp because Aokiji was fanboying over Garp in chapter 0
Kaido was hyped as being stronger than Oden, but the only reason he beat Oden in there fight is because of the hostage situation. Oden was literally going to defeat Kaido prior to the hostage which undermines Kaido’s claim to be the strongest and dehypes Kaido as an antagonist.

To compare that relationship to Aokiji idolizing Garp is ridiculous.
 
#76
Lol my favorite part is him using a panel of Kaido after he got cut and saying that it’s Kaido reacting to Oden surviving the boiling. Now I’m gonna take a panel of Akainu spitting up blood after getting hit by WB and claim that it’s Akainu getting rekt by Marco
What? You misunderstood my friend, the panel where Kaido gets cut was shown to show that Kaido was afraid to die and he was afraid of Oden in general.
 
#78
I have made a few posts regarding Kaido in the past.
Everything about Kaido is geared towards intimidation and a shallow “Wow, such evil badarse” factor. From his design to his highly inefficient nonsensical way of running a territory to his devil fruit to his overall attitude.

Problem is he completely lacks depth and personality. Granted Oda could fix this later but I ain’t putting my hopes up.
Kaido’s problem is not that he is not “perfect”. It is that he is a boring might makes right trope that was overly reliant on a raw intimidation factor and was handled poorly.

His portrayal will likely shoot through the roof during the Wano arc climax. That still will not fix his lack of personality though. Oda will have to address that issue specifically if he ever intends to fix it.
As for Kaido, well I should really wait until Wano Arc is over what with the possibility of backstory and future portrayal etc. etc. but he does not look that promising a character to me.

Kaido currently feels more like a generic video game boss at the end of the play through than an actual character. He is big, he is mean, he is evil, he is intimidating etc. etc. but he is not interesting in the slightest.

He has the all the presence of an obstacle to be stepped over by the protagonist than an actual antagonistic character that directly opposes the character in any meaningful way.

I could be wrong, Oda could subvert my incredibly low expectations of Kaido being more than a talking punching bag but I am not going to get my hopes up.
The problem is that physical strength is meaningless without a charismatic or inspiring character driving that strength towards an understandable goal or motivation.

Whitebeard’s character was not defined by his strength of arms but his strength of character i.e. his personality. He was driven, sympathetic, motivated, understandable, passionate, inspiring.

Whitebeard got utterly dominated in every head on engagement with a Top Tier yet his character is never shat on. Why? Cause his character is respected.

The thing about respect is that respect is earned. The problem is that neither Yonko antagonist in Wano has done anything to earn any respect in any from the fandom.

The only thing propping Kaido up was his raw intimidation factor and supposed hype, both of which were shattered by Oden and the Hostage Crises.

When Kaido goes down, his defeat will most likely be meaningless because Oda gave Kaido’s character no meaning. Yes, he could change that but after Linlin, I highly doubt it.
Kaido goes from war loving, battle lusting, death seeking, suicidal entity of raw intimidation and power to a spineless, gutless bitch that gets all shook up whenever he loses a fight and starts whipping out hostages for cheap shots.
In short, Oda deliberately hyped Kaido to be the best thing since sliced bread.

Thus, the fan base expected a magnificent warrior but instead we essentially got a glorified bully.
 
#79
Lol my favorite part is him using a panel of Kaido after he got cut and saying that it’s Kaido reacting to Oden surviving the boiling. Now I’m gonna take a panel of Akainu spitting up blood after getting hit by WB and claim that it’s Akainu getting rekt by Marco
Oda did a pretty poor job with Kaido in the flash back tbh.

First he uses the old hag and hostage nonsense to save his life which is okay, he is a villain and a pirate, not every pirate will be honorable like Mihawk who won't fight a disadvantaged man (Shanks), even likes of Whitebeard have used cheap shots to their advantage.

But then Oda to do the whole Kaido killing the old hag bullshit, that made him look like a sore loser. Like it didn't make me look at him in a better light, instead he come off as a sore loser who is frustrated at the fact that he wasn't skilled enough to defeat Oden fair and square and killed the very person who saved his life to vent his frustration.

Like nothing honorable at all about that, although Oda's intention was to show Kaido as honorable "man" with that shit. Just let it be how it is, Kaido the PIRATE took an opportunity to win his fight and is unapologetic about it.
 
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