Controversial General Political Discussion

Logiko

Logiko

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Roo said:
people make fun of tragedies all the time. To act like we don’t shows how sheltered you are. You must hang around hyper sensitive people if you think this is out of the norm
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You are missunderstanding me. I'm not saying that we shouldn't laugh about tragedies (if you are part of the community who tanked the tragedy, its perfectly legitimate to exorcize the pain), what I'm saying is that laughing about the tragedy about people who are still under oppressions, like Jews or muslim for example, is easy and simply bad humor when done in with inequivalency and other type of humor or done by illegitimate people.

What is truly groundbreaking on the other hand, is to laugh about those who create those tragedies in the first place or those who participate in those oppression. In short, those who have the power.




But yeah, if you want to talk about random stuff, have fun. Just know that once you start talking about a political subject, it becomes a political act.


Zemmi said:
Dark humor is also a coping mechanism for some people
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Indeed, and dark humor when done right takes the times to adress the structures of dominations and/or denounces a situation. Dark humor when done well is also political.

Zenos7 said:
Laughing about jokes has nothing to do with any of what you are saying here.

This is either dishonest or retarded as fuck. Or both i guess.
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Sure.
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If we can laugh about everything, there is no reason why we can't laugh about those subjects. Unless you are saying that you have a limit ?

Zemmi said:
A lot of soldiers and vets have very dark senses of humor.
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Those poor vets.. forced to go to war...
 
Zemmi

Zemmi

GodMommie
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@Logiko I dont think we know the same type military people.

I have always wondered and I can't say I regret it bc I wouldn't have my kids, but in high school air force recruiters kept coming to my house even though I don't think they were supposed to and finally my dad told them no way. But I often think it would've been kinda cool now that I'm grown.
 
Zemmi

Zemmi

GodMommie
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I'm likely the only person who cares less about banning TikTok, I don't use it. I have other ways to dumb down my mind. :milaugh:Bonus: Maybe I can get my daughter to do something more productive in her free time.

But I really don't like government overreach, but then again what if it's a huge security risk, and if it is why did Biden make a video recently with it.

So much confusion.
 
Zenos7

Zenos7

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Logiko said:
If we can laugh about everything, there is no reason why we can't laugh about those subjects. Unless you are saying that you have a limit ?
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sure, people can laugh about any joke that they think is funny, regardless of how much you or i cry about it. recently a coworker of mine made a racist joke about africans. i wasnt prepared for it and laughed at it, but still told him afterwards that i didnt like the joke. and that should really be it imho.

but again, the joke =/= the actual subject. laughing at a joke is simply not the same as laughing at the holocaust or sexism or racism or whatever.
 
Jesse Pinkman

Jesse Pinkman

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Zemmi said:
Hard disagree. I think it would be wise if someone tells you something to believe it (unless it's Biden.)

Biden has not acted well in either of the current conflicts. He's also becoming a habitual leave-Americans-behind offender in these conflicts that arise underneath him. We have four years to prove what didn't happen under Trump and 3 years to prove exactly what happened under Biden. All this blood is on Biden's hands and if he stays in power watch my words more blood will be shed under Biden than it would be under Trump.

Biden in power is even worse for the world than it is for the United States. I'm almost certain anyone who wishes for Biden tob e re-elected hates the United States and doesn't realize that it's not the US that suffers the most under him, but believe me we are suffering. Not once in my life have I ever worried about making all my bills until Biden.
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We are talking of Domestic and foreign policies . Maybe Biden has not done well enough on domestic policies but his actions on Russia he has shown decent results .

If Trump is elected I hope he is against Putin as well .
 
Zemmi

Zemmi

GodMommie
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Jesse Pinkman said:
We are talking of Domestic and foreign policies . Maybe Biden has not done well enough on domestic policies but on Russia he has done decent .
If Trump is selected I hope he is against Putin as well .
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I also said if Biden wasn't in office Putin would've done that.
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Like Putin said, he like Biden is predictable.
 
Logiko

Logiko

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Zemmi said:
Oh. I thought you were referring to a conversation a couple of days ago about the draft.
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Nop

Zenos7 said:
recently a coworker of mine made a racist joke about africans
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Which is showing what I'm explaining. "Funny" is relative.


Zenos7 said:
laughing at a joke is simply not the same as laughing at the holocaust or sexism or racism or whatever.
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I'm not criticizing the fact of laughing at jokes. I'm criticizing the fact of targeting minorities and oppressed people for jokes.
 
Roo

Roo

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Logiko said:
You are missunderstanding me. I'm not saying that we shouldn't laugh about tragedies (if you are part of the community who tanked the tragedy, its perfectly legitimate to exorcize the pain), what I'm saying is that laughing about the tragedy about people who are still under oppressions, like Jews or muslim for example, is easy and simply bad humor when done in with inequivalency and other type of humor or done by illegitimate people.

What is truly groundbreaking on the other hand, is to laugh about those who create those tragedies in the first place or those who participate in those oppression. In short, those who have the power.




But yeah, if you want to talk about random stuff, have fun. Just know that once you start talking about a political subject, it becomes a political act.



Indeed, and dark humor when done right takes the times to adress the structures of dominations and/or denounces a situation. Dark humor when done well is also political.


Sure.
:seriously:

If we can laugh about everything, there is no reason why we can't laugh about those subjects. Unless you are saying that you have a limit ?


Those poor vets.. forced to go to war...
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We literally make jokes at the expense of the perpetrators and victims of said tragedies. It is called dark humor

If you don’t like it that’s fine, but to act like it’s not a staple of humor is ridiculous
 
Zemmi

Zemmi

GodMommie
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Jesse Pinkman said:
That is how Putin talks . Russian propaganda 101 .
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No. The reasoning is logical. When bad people want to do bad things you want to know what the other people's response will be and he's not afraid of Biden. I mean Putin can still talk in full sentences....Biden not so much. I mean the highest expectation the world has for Biden is he has a pulse. That's a very low bar. That's why he's a joke not only to Russia but almost every other country.
 
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