Uncle Van

Humans Evolve. Taxes Never Do.
Pedophiles are tying to get themselves renamed to "Minor Attracted Person", added to the alphabet, and make up their own science and facts about how pedophiles is okay. Everyone, especially those of LGBTQ+, rejects them for obvious reasons, first one being that their delusions goes against reality. Fat Acceptance claimes obesity is healthy, and brings up their own science and facts about how it has nothing to do with diabetes, poor health and early death. They get rejected without consequence because they go against reality. Feminists claim women are equal to men in phyiscal strength and bring up their own sciences and facts to prove it, only to get rejected.

What makes the normal every day trans person so special that their own newly created science and facts that go against reality must be accepted at all costs? The definition of a trans woman is a biological man who identifies as a woman. This definition was very inconvenient when it came to things like sports so they try to change the definition, now we got like 3 different versions with 10 different science based studies....
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
I understand gender dysphoria and what it means and I get transitioning helps people relieve it. But what is wrong with recognizing there is a difference between trans women and women? Trans women will never have the same lived experience as biological women. I will never have the same experience in life as anyone assigned male at birth and I'm pretty maleish in my behaviors. The running joke when I was kid, was I should've been born a boy. Even had an identity crisis in my teen years, where I thought I was Mike Tyson and stayed in trouble for fights. Even charged and convicted of starting a school fight, which was bs because it didn't even happen on school grounds. Even still, I will relate to other people assigned female at birth experiences.

I mean really explain where I have it wrong and if I'm missing something. Because I don't understand it.
 
I understand gender dysphoria and what it means and I get transitioning helps people relieve it. But what is wrong with recognizing there is a difference between trans women and women? Trans women will never have the same lived experience as biological women. I will never have the same experience in life as anyone assigned male at birth and I'm pretty maleish in my behaviors. The running joke when I was kid, was I should've been born a boy. Even had an identity crisis in my teen years, where I thought I was Mike Tyson and stayed in trouble for fights. Even charged and convicted of starting a school fight, which was bs because it didn't even happen on school grounds. Even still, I will relate to other people assigned female at birth experiences.

I mean really explain where I have it wrong and if I'm missing something. Because I don't understand it.
Sounds like you were just tomboyish, no issue there. Haha
 

Uncle Van

Humans Evolve. Taxes Never Do.
I understand gender dysphoria and what it means and I get transitioning helps people relieve it. But what is wrong with recognizing there is a difference between trans women and women? Trans women will never have the same lived experience as biological women. I will never have the same experience in life as anyone assigned male at birth and I'm pretty maleish in my behaviors. The running joke when I was kid, was I should've been born a boy. Even had an identity crisis in my teen years, where I thought I was Mike Tyson and stayed in trouble for fights. Even charged and convicted of starting a school fight, which was bs because it didn't even happen on school grounds. Even still, I will relate to other people assigned female at birth experiences.

I mean really explain where I have it wrong and if I'm missing something. Because I don't understand it.
Exactly. Women and trans women have completely different obstacles in life. You were just a tomboy lol.
 

MangoSenpai

Arbiter of Truth
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he knows it all so its pointless to talk with him :josad::josad:
I think I know who he is guys

 
I understand gender dysphoria and what it means and I get transitioning helps people relieve it. But what is wrong with recognizing there is a difference between trans women and women? Trans women will never have the same lived experience as biological women. I will never have the same experience in life as anyone assigned male at birth and I'm pretty maleish in my behaviors. The running joke when I was kid, was I should've been born a boy. Even had an identity crisis in my teen years, where I thought I was Mike Tyson and stayed in trouble for fights. Even charged and convicted of starting a school fight, which was bs because it didn't even happen on school grounds. Even still, I will relate to other people assigned female at birth experiences.

I mean really explain where I have it wrong and if I'm missing something. Because I don't understand it.
Nobody denies that there is a difference between trans women and cis women.

The trans argument is that they want trans people to be accepted under the umbrella of the gender they identify as.
 
The definition of a trans woman is a biological man who identifies as a woman. This definition was very inconvenient when it came to things like sports so they try to change the definition, now we got like 3 different versions with 10 different science based studies....
That definition is fine. What isnt fine is the circular retarded definition some radical nutjobs are trying to push for man/woman where it effectively doesnt mean anything since its just about peoples self perception or what they claim to be.
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shouldn't a flat chested woman count as man if they claim lol
The appearance doesnt matter, they can claim it nonetheless
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Nobody denies that there is a difference between trans women and cis women.

The trans argument is that they want trans people to be accepted under the umbrella of the gender they identify as.
As long as woman is defined as adult human female, they are wrong though.

But this wont take long until their definition is the only one. I will stick to the term female when that happens
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
Haha there’s trans women on the internet claiming they get periods because they’re taking hormones.

:jordamas:
Yeah, I'm not a fan of things like this that feel like we are a mockery. Or those like Dylan Mulvaney, who it feels like mock women. She has taken every stereotype men have of us and made it her personality.
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Nobody denies that there is a difference between trans women and cis women.

The trans argument is that they want trans people to be accepted under the umbrella of the gender they identify as.
Why did you have to use cis? I'm starting to feel like that is an insult. I don't need a qualifier.
 
Fat Acceptance claimes obesity is healthy
The problem is that you equate "fat" with obesity. When fat ecceptance actually takes into account:
- Obesity
- People with curve

Also let be remindeed that obesity is a disease. Its not something that you overcome just because you want to. So for those two reasons, fat acceptance is primordial to help the person feel good with themself and then if necessary let her be able to seek for help without feeling rejected. This person seeking help being THEIR choices, not yours.


Feminists claim women are equal to men in phyiscal strength and bring up their own sciences and facts to prove it, only to get rejected.
I see very few feminist explaining tht, are you sure you are not strawmanning here ?


The definition of a trans woman is a biological man who identifies as a woman.
Wrong.

The definition of a transwomen is a person IDENTIFIED AT BIRTH as a man (in other words by doctors) because of potential MALE sexual characteristics (like the genitelia or chromosome) but who identify as the opposite gender.

F**K... if even the staff promotes wrong and potentially transphobic definitions now.. no wonder that your forum is filled with far rights lunatics.

But what is wrong with recognizing there is a difference between trans women and women?
Why would you need to not the difference ? Trans women usually go through a process transition during which they lose most of the physical attribute that are male characteristics. Sometimes, the transition is so clear that there is almost no difference.

Searching to highlight the differences between transwomen and cis women is categorizing forever trans to their status of trans and not to what they are actually identifying to.

Aside from sport where in the highest competitions there might be some differences of performances (and even there its debatable). There is absolutely no reasons to be transphobic and try to separate cis women from transwomen.

So let's not do it and lets respect those WOMEN.

:sweat:

Also note that we question - as usual - a lot transwomen, but noone is questionning the legitimacy of trans men in society or in sport where they are actually performing just as well as their pears. Again, its against all women that people are angry. That's another reason why we must be a little bit more protective of transwomen: They get the double jeopardy:

- They are discriminated because they are trans
- When they transition they are also discriminated because they are women
And I'm not even mentionning the danger they face with transphobes. (rapes / abuses / mur etc.)


As long as woman is defined as adult human female, they are wrong though.
A women being only identified as an adult female in outdated definition that don't take gender definitions into account.

Or those like Dylan Mulvaney, who it feels like mock cis women. She has taken every stereotype men have of us and made it her personality.
Or maybe its just her personnality. Noone is perfect... no need to search of malicious intent.

Why did you have to use cis? I'm starting to feel like that is an insult. I don't need a qualifier.
"Cis" just means that you identify to the same gender you were assignated at birth. Its not an insult at all, its just a way not to exclude Trans when talking about all women when we talk about non trans person. What I usually forget to do. I should be more careful in the future.
 
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