Controversial General Political Discussion

[Uncle Van]

I think voter ID laws are mainly for checking at time of voting, but for most states with lax voting laws you still need to register and provide proof of citizenship before voting. Irrc NY requires this
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So that’s how Miguel ends up in Japan

As I elaborated on, I was speaking in general as to why Americans are crazy about immigration. I wasn't saying NYC itself/alone has lax voting laws. Used NYC as an example of high volumes of illegal immigration.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

election fraud happens in every country that's a fact

What's the difference between fraud and widespread fraud?

 

[Okamakama]

What's the difference between fraud and widespread fraud?

The name, for one.

 

[Herrera95]

election fraud happens in every country that's a fact

How is that a fact

 

[Saturn-sama]

That is fraud. It is not general knowledge but conspiracy theories. If you're gonna make big claims show me data of widespread election fraud.

Usually when you make big claims such as those you need to show supporting evidence.

Conspiracy theory= truth in 3 months. Everyone who is not biased and unhinged knows that.

In fact the far woke progressive lunatics (people like you) are the biggest conspiracy nutjubs

So yeah being called from people like you, it‘s a badge of honor.

So you still can‘t grasp that lol

 

[Uncle Van]

It's still funny how whenever I speak while generalizing to save time, instead of simply asking me to elaborate, so many choose to make assumptions to fit their narrative Lol. And when I do elaborate, they insist on doubling down instead of admitting they were premature.

So far I'm a pro capitalistic, communistic, left leaning, right leaning, conservative+liberal+woke person. I'm everyone and everything.

 

[Saturn-sama]

How is that a fact

it‘s pretty logical. Everyone who counts the ballots are political. Those who provide the ballots to the „higher ups“ are political too..

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Conspiracy theory= truth in 3 months. Everyone who is not biased and unhinged knows that.

In fact the far woke progressive lunatics (people like you) are the biggest conspiracy nutjubs

So yeah being called from people like you, it‘s a badge of honor.

So you still can‘t grasp that lol

Dude lmao!

Talks about being biased while throwing labels at me that have been used more than your sister on a Friday night.

Who's alt are you anyway?

 

[Saturn-sama]

Dude lmao!

Talks about being biased while throwing labels at me that have been used more than your sister on a Friday night.

Who's alt are you anyway?

what are you even babbling. I don‘t have a sister lmao.

dito I could ask you the same question. I mean I am speaking to your own alt Logiko..

 

[AL sama]

What's the difference between fraud and widespread fraud?

your point is??

How is that a fact

how is it not??

 

[Toby D. Dog]

what are you even babbling. I don‘t have a sister lmao.

dito I could ask you the same question. I mean I am speaking to your own alt Logiko..

Logiko's alt? LMAO!

I'm always arguing with that guy. Just admit you're a dumbass who's only capable of calling woke everything he doesn't like while being politically illiterate at the same time.

At least Uncle talks about substance in spite of my massive disagreements with him.
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your point is??

Fraud does happen. The question is to what scale. Enough to shift an election? Not in 2020.

 

[Herrera95]

it‘s pretty logical. Everyone who counts the ballots are political. Those who provide the ballots to the „higher ups“ are political too..

Yes but that doesn't configures a fact.

In my opinion US should join the electric voting like Brazil.

 

[Saturn-sama]

Logiko's alt? LMAO!

I'm always arguing with that guy. Just admit you're a dumbass who's only capable of calling woke everything he doesn't like while being politically illiterate at the same time.

I Don‘t know you nor do I know your conversation with him. You are literally the same guy throwing the constant dumb buzzwords. I don‘t think you would ARGUE with him. Literally the same misguided person.

Yet you are a dumbass who seemingly calls anyone right-wing and conspiracy nutjob. Ironic yet expexted

At least Uncle talks about substance in spite of my massive disagreements with him.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

It's still funny how whenever I speak while generalizing to save time, instead of simply asking me to elaborate, so many choose to make assumptions to fit their narrative Lol. And when I do elaborate, they insist on doubling down instead of admitting they were premature.

So far I'm a pro capitalistic, communistic, left leaning, right leaning, conservative+liberal+woke person. I'm everyone and everything.

Yes, because I've called you all of those things. At the very least you're implying that the purpose of illegal immigrants is to shift elections in favor of the Democrats, which is just not true. These people don't commit fraud in any meaningful capacity.

 

[AL sama]

Fraud does happen. The question is to what scale. Enough to shift an election? Not in 2020.

can't talk about US but in my country it does change the whole result

 

[Herrera95]

1st generation immigrants

Who are they

 

[Toby D. Dog]

can't talk about US but in my country it does change the whole result

I wouldn't know. Probably.

 

[Saturn-sama]

Yes but that doesn't configures a fact.

In my opinion US should join the electric voting like Brazil.

How is Brazil conducting their electric voting.

Also at the election day an far left german report from the Public Broadcasting Service (has received a voting ballot), who was reporting on the elections posted that on Twitter back then. He has not right to vote as none US-Citizen

 

[Herrera95]

How is Brazil conducting their electric voting.

Also at the election day an far left german report from the Public Broadcasting Service (has received a voting ballot), who was reporting on the elections posted that on Twitter back then. He has not right to vote as none US-Citizen

The electric voting system itself I see no problem on it. The fraud happens in other ways this last election of 2022 specially with the justice system favoring our ex condemned and ex president Lula over the current (at time) Bolsonaro.

 

[Uncle Van]

Yes, because I've called you all of those things. At the very least you're implying that the purpose of illegal immigrants is to shift elections in favor of the Democrats, which is just not true. These people don't commit fraud in any meaningful capacity.

Bolded: You have?

And once again, I was speaking in general and leaving out a ton of other factors to save time. What I said wasn't even false, but the conclusions you were drawing from what I said were. Based on what you're saying here, is it good from me to assume that you admit it does happen(which would be agreeing with me)? Just not in a way that makes a difference?