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Actually it is. People ALREADY know the unpleasant truth so telling them this is just adding a layer of your own frustration on them, a layer that they do not need. Same from people who are in denial. Usually, people in denial are there for a very good reason. If you want to unlock this, understand their lives, but do not tell them "the harsh truth", its simply unproductive and you will only gain distrust from that.
Again, people fight their own battle. Telling "the harsh truth" is just an excuse to avoid saying "I'm telling this person my frustration of seeing them unwell"
You want to support ? Love, stay close and trust.
Well, I hope you have good relationships with your family.
When someone is in difficulty, its important to show support an even the balance. So when someone really feel like they are unworthy of living because of their physic, mental illness, addiction or financial situation, telling them that they are perfect the way they are is absolutely VITAL to restore the balance. Even if technically, perfection means the absence of bad.
Again, people fight their own battle. Telling "the harsh truth" is just an excuse to avoid saying "I'm telling this person my frustration of seeing them unwell"
You want to support ? Love, stay close and trust.
Well, I hope you have good relationships with your family.
When someone is in difficulty, its important to show support an even the balance. So when someone really feel like they are unworthy of living because of their physic, mental illness, addiction or financial situation, telling them that they are perfect the way they are is absolutely VITAL to restore the balance. Even if technically, perfection means the absence of bad.
People with curve means people with non normative bodies. Those people are not fat. They just have a different anatomy. And its important to understand that because most of the time, women are the target of fat shaming behavior related to those anatomies.
Yes, but we are not in therapy here. A therapist can say the harsh truth because that their expertise, we see them especially for that. We are not one. We are human being that needs legitimacy and sometimes being over supporting is necessary between relationships.
Understanding someone struggle is stepping back from the control seat. Its understanding that the person is already fighting and that you interfering will just slow them down or worst.
If you don't want to tell them that they are perfect, don't. But know that it can be life changing.
Yes, but we are not in therapy here. A therapist can say the harsh truth because that their expertise, we see them especially for that. We are not one. We are human being that needs legitimacy and sometimes being over supporting is necessary between relationships.
Understanding someone struggle is stepping back from the control seat. Its understanding that the person is already fighting and that you interfering will just slow them down or worst.
If you don't want to tell them that they are perfect, don't. But know that it can be life changing.
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Prolly because being fat is so much more common in western societies.
People dont always know. And still no. Saying being obese os unhealthy isnt telling people to lose weight. Just two different things. But you conflate alot of shit that isnt necessarily linked anyway
Depends on the family member. I have seversl family members where i havent been in contact for them for over 10 years
Need some example for different anatomy
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People dont always know. And still no. Saying being obese os unhealthy isnt telling people to lose weight. Just two different things. But you conflate alot of shit that isnt necessarily linked anyway
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Depends on the family member. I have seversl family members where i havent been in contact for them for over 10 years
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Need some example for different anatomy
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Yes. I know. I was in that case. I was in denial for 10 years. I know what it is like to refuse to admit that we have a problem. But what you need to understand, is that it doesn't stop us from suffering. And when someone tells us how to live our life, especially when we refuse our condition, its extremely destructive (and not only for the individual with the problem)
As long as you don't constantly say that to the person in obesity, then you can say whatever you want.
I think you really don't understand why I talk the way I talk in the first place. I'm not a simple leftist who tell you that because I want to be a good ally. I'm telling you that because I lived it.
- I have someone who is dealing with addiction and depression
- Another who is dealing with obesity
- And me who is dealing with all sort of sh*ts.
So when I'm telling you that saying the "harsh truth" to people doesn't work, its because I've experienced it. ALL the changes came once we stopped being toxic with eachothers and once we started to understand each others. Once we stopped interfering with eachother's fights.
So again. This is not the leftist talking, this is the 36 Yo guy who dealt with difficult situations. You want to support you relatives ?
Love. Trust and Stay close
As long as you don't constantly say that to the person in obesity, then you can say whatever you want.
I think you really don't understand why I talk the way I talk in the first place. I'm not a simple leftist who tell you that because I want to be a good ally. I'm telling you that because I lived it.
- I have someone who is dealing with addiction and depression
- Another who is dealing with obesity
- And me who is dealing with all sort of sh*ts.
So when I'm telling you that saying the "harsh truth" to people doesn't work, its because I've experienced it. ALL the changes came once we stopped being toxic with eachothers and once we started to understand each others. Once we stopped interfering with eachother's fights.
So again. This is not the leftist talking, this is the 36 Yo guy who dealt with difficult situations. You want to support you relatives ?
Love. Trust and Stay close
Obviously not like random, maybe if the topic arises or if one of the rare nutjobs tells you being fat isnt unhealthy.
I dont think anyone suggested going up to random fat people to tell them being fat is unhealthy lol.
@Uncle Van ?
I dont think anyone suggested going up to random fat people to tell them being fat is unhealthy lol.
@Uncle Van ?
That's why I'm talking about relatives here. Because the opposite doesn't make much sence. We are talking about people we love and that we want to see healthy.
It takes a lot of courage not to interfere when we know that someone is suffering. But unless they do something radically self destructive or they directly ask us for help. The best way to respect them is to stay close and trust that they will win.
I'm purpusefully using the terminology of war and shonen to make you understand how One Piece and Oda perfectly nails that aspect of human relationships. (one of the reasons why we absolutely need to discuss One Piece under a political lens)
It takes a lot of courage not to interfere when we know that someone is suffering. But unless they do something radically self destructive or they directly ask us for help. The best way to respect them is to stay close and trust that they will win.
I'm purpusefully using the terminology of war and shonen to make you understand how One Piece and Oda perfectly nails that aspect of human relationships. (one of the reasons why we absolutely need to discuss One Piece under a political lens)
Bro One Piece is not what you should read if you want to know how to respect someone, Luffy doesn’t even respect himself how could you possibly use a fictional character with a dumb manchild archetype as a role model for respect?
One Piece doesn’t need to be discussed under a political lens any more than the next manga. The reality is that behind all of that is just a Japanese man spending 60+ hours a week drawing and grinding on a manga away from his family and incorporating ideals from cultures around the world including his own into it. What value is Oda going to give you regarding proper morals that isn’t already found in abundance elsewhere? Like One Piece isn’t gospel (not that I fully agree with the gospel) but nothing in mordern entertainment is going to be unique whatsoever when it comes to this, they’re just parroting ideals and morals that have been disseminated over thousands of years, whether that would be innate human values, scriptures/religious books, philosophical beliefs derived from the aforementioned and stuff like that.
Why would I read One Piece to know how to respect someone when I can read a whole treatise on respect that breaks it down in a way that I’d be able to have a deep understanding of it in and out? That is if I even wanted to read something on respect
Why would I read One Piece to know how to respect someone when I can read a whole treatise on respect that breaks it down in a way that I’d be able to have a deep understanding of it in and out? That is if I even wanted to read something on respect
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You have a lot to learn yet about One Piece mate.
I never said you did. That's why I speak about relatives.
Yes it does.
All the more reason to denounce the working conditions behind One Piece and therefore "talking about One Piece under a political lens"
Obviously a lot since people here don't even udnerstand how to deal with people in difficult situation in a basic and safe manner. So to those person I say : read One Piece, you might learn a thing or two.
Indeed. talking about One Piece under a political lens also means talking about the problematic things in One Piece
You are underestimating the power of stories.
You do what you want mate :)
We are on a manga forum, so I take the obvious example here. If you want to use other ressources to be a good human being, go for it!
I never said you did. That's why I speak about relatives.
Yes it does.
All the more reason to denounce the working conditions behind One Piece and therefore "talking about One Piece under a political lens"
Obviously a lot since people here don't even udnerstand how to deal with people in difficult situation in a basic and safe manner. So to those person I say : read One Piece, you might learn a thing or two.
Indeed. talking about One Piece under a political lens also means talking about the problematic things in One Piece
You are underestimating the power of stories.
You do what you want mate :)
We are on a manga forum, so I take the obvious example here. If you want to use other ressources to be a good human being, go for it!
That's actually a thing. The omnipresent body shaming in society leads to eating disorders in young people, especially teenage girls, thinking they are fat when they have completely average weight. This is a real problem that the mainly male posters in this thread might not be aware of.for the same reason unrealistic body proportions in media and photoshopping/filters can be problematic. This issue has been around when I was a teen and is exacerbated by social media
That’s because this is a weeb forum with the primary means of communication being that of text. Even then when someone is known to be going through something most people are respectful. One Piece isn’t going to teach you how to be human even if it may have it’s fair share of moments (just like any other manga), it’s just cringey entertainment that parrots ideals when needed.
Real stories and parables are powerful but fictional comics who’s sole purpose is that of entertainment are definitely not.
That wasn’t the point, the point was that One Piece isn’t this grand literary treatise that’s going to teach you about human values and morals. Oda just is another run of the mill comic writer who happens to be one of the more talented ones in the line of manga.
Real stories and parables are powerful but fictional comics who’s sole purpose is that of entertainment are definitely not.
That wasn’t the point, the point was that One Piece isn’t this grand literary treatise that’s going to teach you about human values and morals. Oda just is another run of the mill comic writer who happens to be one of the more talented ones in the line of manga.