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I don't understand the point of this reply. Once again, Russia always wanted Ukraine and didn't want them to join NATO cause that would mean declaring war on NATO itself, if they take Ukriane by force. The Biden Administration pushed for more sanctions on Russia and even more for Ukriane to join NATO in 2021. This prompted Russia in invade in Feb 2022.
Yeah, but the reason why Ukraine wanted to join NATO in the first place was over Crimea takeover. They didn't feel very safe after that (not without reason!!!). The invasion was going to happen no matter what.
Wanting to join NATO was the reaction to Russia's actions, not the other way around. I don't like the NATO narrative because it's spinning things to make it seem like Russia "felt threatened". They are bordering other NATO member countries as it is, and they created the Crimea dispute in the first place, to advance on Ukraine.
I don't know if we understand each other here
Wanting to join NATO was the reaction to Russia's actions, not the other way around. I don't like the NATO narrative because it's spinning things to make it seem like Russia "felt threatened". They are bordering other NATO member countries as it is, and they created the Crimea dispute in the first place, to advance on Ukraine.
I don't know if we understand each other here
We agree that Russia always wanted Ukraine and was gonna try to take it by force.
My point is that Russia wanted to take Ukriane before they joined NATO, as that would mean Russia would have to directly fight with NATO forces and having them at his borders, similar to the Cuban Missle Crisis. Given how Ukriane joining NATO made good progress in 2021, along with Biden pushing more sanctions on Russia, this speed up Russia's invasion. It gave the more reasons and incentive to do so.
My point is that Russia wanted to take Ukriane before they joined NATO, as that would mean Russia would have to directly fight with NATO forces and having them at his borders, similar to the Cuban Missle Crisis. Given how Ukriane joining NATO made good progress in 2021, along with Biden pushing more sanctions on Russia, this speed up Russia's invasion. It gave the more reasons and incentive to do so.
Man said history class, the irony. Everyone and their mamas know they teach jack about history in school, especially pre college. This explains your ignorance on occupied Palestine tho lol.
Man said history class, the irony. Everyone and their mamas know they teach jack about history in school, especially pre college. This explains your ignorance on occupied Palestine tho lol.
Taking positions like that is tantamount to ignorance on it as a whole regardless. The reality is that what you have there is one of the last colonization projects in the world and an active apartheid. I’m not one that likes to use these charged terms but it’s simply the reality. Acting like there’s an equal tit for tat going on couldn’t be more telling of ignorance.
Where did I even say that?
Where did I even say that?