Controversial General Political Discussion

[Bisoromi Bear]

People who think that there’s an equivalent distribution of violence and war between both sides will always sound bigoted when confronted with the bloody reality

If we took one factor out, the European Jews would have never had a need to settle in Israel.

And that factor is Christian Europe's relentless antisemitism. It's not like the Nazis invented that shitty, nonsensical mindset

 

[Haoshoku]

If we took one factor out, the European Jews would have never had a need to settle in Israel.

And that factor is Christian Europe's relentless antisemitism. It's not like the Nazis invented that shitty, nonsensical mindset

You’re sounding educated for once, I was scanning the post for any baiting

Yeah Europe has a history of putrid antisemitism while in the East it was far different. Many Jews fleeing the violence in Christendom found refuge and flourished in places like Andalusia or in Ottoman lands. The greatest legal scholar in Judaism Maimonides grew up in Andalusia and didn’t only benefit from living there but also used theological aspects of Islam to revive Judaism he even later on became the doctor of the famed Saladin

 

[Roo]

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Man talking about propagandistic…Adam Raz and the Haaretz couldn’t be more propagandistic for the Israeli Zionist narrative. Give me a source that’s unbiased and not anti-Palestinian, you not even holding up to your own lame standards lol. No part of your argument has been “nuanced” so far, the fact that you seem to be clueless about the Balfour Declaration says it all.

Hareetz is pro Zionist? LMAO


Do you realize you just called the biggest left wing Israeli publication pro Zionist?

Andrea Levin, executive director of the pro-Israel Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA), said Haaretz was doing "damage to the truth" and sometimes making serious factual errors without correcting them.[59]According to The Jerusalem Post, Haaretz editor-in-chief David Landau said at the 2007 Limmudconference in Moscow that he had told his staff not to report on criminal investigations against Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in order to promote Sharon's 2004–2005 Gaza disengagement plan.[60] In April 2017, Haaretz published an op-ed by a staff writer that said the Israeli religious right was worse than Hezbollah.[61][62] Condemnation followed, including from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, President Reuven Rivlin, and other government ministers and MPs, as well as from Opposition Leader Isaac Herzog.[63]

bruh you instantly assume anybody Israeli is pro Israeli without even looking into them. You did the same with Pappe. Is this a reflection? Are you that blindly loyal to your ethnic group?

trust me there’s a bunch of Americans who are anti USA.

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At first they weren’t, the locals actually opened their doors out of hospitality. Things went violent when terrorist gangs like the Irgun started forming and killing people and when the locals realized there was a whole colonist ploy to displace them from their own homeland. Where are the numerous massacres, displacements and occupation of the Israelis by the local Palestinian populace in the “tit for tat” between them?

I literally provided you a Wikipedia page of all the recorded mass killings. If you can’t find them there you probably made the up in your head

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Ayo if THIS is the “enlightened” centrist position then Murica is doomed not that Murica wasn’t already on the decline. Even normies know about what’s been happening.

Next to retards who can’t even waste a second to verify what they say ofc I’m enlightened lol

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Hareetz is pro Zionist? LMAO


Do you realize you just called the biggest left wing Israeli publication pro Zionist?



bruh you instantly assume anybody Israeli is pro Israeli without even looking into them. You did the same with Pappe. Is this a reflection? Are you that blindly loyal to your ethnic group?

trust me there’s a bunch of Americans who are anti USA.


I literally provided you a Wikipedia page of all the recorded mass killings. If you can’t find them there you probably made the up in your head


Next to retards who can’t even waste a second to verify what they say ofc I’m enlightened lol

I’m pretty sure Haaretz is liberal Zionist

 

[Roo]

I’m pretty sure Haaretz is liberal Zionist

https://english.elpais.com/opinion/...acks-on-israeli-democracy.html?outputType=amp

https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-774848

Define Zionist

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Next to retards who can’t even waste a second to verify what they say ofc I’m enlightened lol

You're not complimenting yourself or your country here. It's just a nice way of saying that most Americans are stupid

 

[Toby D. Dog]

You're not complimenting yourself or your country here. It's just a nice way of saying that most Americans are stupid

Roo rn:

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Roo rn:

Who is this guy?

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Who is this guy?

Roo

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Roo

Is this some inside joke

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Is this some inside joke

Solis, just look it up

 

[Roo]

Roo rn:

Bill Maher is unironically based when not caving to “nicety politics” with republicans, specially when he rants on the dumb bent the left has with Muslims

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Bill Maher is unironically based when not caving to “nicety politics” with republicans, specially when he rants on the dumb bent the left has with Muslims

Oh God

 

[Monkey D Theories]

https://english.elpais.com/opinion/...acks-on-israeli-democracy.html?outputType=amp

https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-774848

Define Zionist

Zionism is the belief that a state with a uniquely Jewish character should be created. Specifically through partnership with the colonial European powers.

Modern Zionists support the efforts of Ben Gurion and the initial Zionists who colonized Palestine, did the nakba, and created the state of Israel.

Support for the existence of the current state of Israel doesn’t inherently make one a Zionist imo. Yasser Arafat eventually supported the two state solution but I doubt he would call himself a Zionist.

The key discriminator between a Zionist and an anti Zionist or a non Zionist is their view on Israeli history. Zionists view people like Ben Gurion as a hero. They view the creation of Israel as just. They cannot perceive israel as a colonial project.
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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...al-state/0000017f-f46f-d497-a1ff-f6ef21fc0000

this is a Zionist take imo

 

[Zenos7]

Palestinians were violently rejecting the jewish settlers, the jewish settlers attacked back

They also rejected the partition plan, which still wasnt optimal (~40/60% distribution) but infinitely better than what happened ever since

 

[Logiko]

Palestinians were violently rejecting the jewish settlers, the jewish settlers attacked back

oh no, is that what we call...tit for tat???

The guy is literally calling a tit for tat colonized people fighting against colonization and oppression.

Apartheid and colonizations process are made possible because ignorant and unethical folks like you are enabling them mate. I won't even say that you should be ashamed of yourself, I'm sure you are very proud of the completely non nuanced and pro-far right propaganda you are spitting here.

But damn.. I really hope you will find your decency back one day.

Oh well.. at least you are not denying a genocide like others are doing here..

 

[Mathias]

Any good and thorough documentation about Israel/Palestine ? I feel like I'm lacking some data...

And what do people here think about the Oslo accords ?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

You’re legit the worst poster in this forum and legit a cancer to society.

Thank you. 💗 Now be so kind and put me on ignore lest you catch my "cancer"💗

Bill Maher

Thanks. Now I don't have to use Google image search

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Oh well.. at least you are not denying a genocide like others are doing here..

Wait what

 

[Roo]

What did he do to warrant being called the worst poster here? God damn.
Not to say he's a saint. Dude's ridiculously obnoxious and immature sometimes. But still

Because they exist to only annoy other posters