They were just waiting for “cause”, but the idea of invading Ukraine was in motion before Crimea. Crimea was just the first step, and NATO entrance for Ukraine wasn’t even a thing at the time. You can believe bullshit reasons like NATO or Nazis, but they just wanna get that land and make a good business out of war ☠️
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Is it really “earlier” loooool? It was the next logical step after Crimea, in fact Putin’s nonsense was “I will attack Ukraine now in advance, cause I don’t want NATO coming there and taking back Crimea by force” - the place they already took by force 😂
My point is it’s not earlier than planned, because Crimea was annexed without any NATO cause.
My point is it’s not earlier than planned, because Crimea was annexed without any NATO cause.
I don't understand the point of this reply. Once again, Russia always wanted Ukraine and didn't want them to join NATO cause that would mean declaring war on NATO itself, if they take Ukriane by force. The Biden Administration pushed for more sanctions on Russia and even more for Ukriane to join NATO in 2021. This prompted Russia in invade in Feb 2022.
Yeah, but the reason why Ukraine wanted to join NATO in the first place was over Crimea takeover. They didn't feel very safe after that (not without reason!!!). The invasion was going to happen no matter what.
Wanting to join NATO was the reaction to Russia's actions, not the other way around. I don't like the NATO narrative because it's spinning things to make it seem like Russia "felt threatened". They are bordering other NATO member countries as it is, and they created the Crimea dispute in the first place, to advance on Ukraine.
I don't know if we understand each other here
Wanting to join NATO was the reaction to Russia's actions, not the other way around. I don't like the NATO narrative because it's spinning things to make it seem like Russia "felt threatened". They are bordering other NATO member countries as it is, and they created the Crimea dispute in the first place, to advance on Ukraine.
I don't know if we understand each other here
We agree that Russia always wanted Ukraine and was gonna try to take it by force.
My point is that Russia wanted to take Ukriane before they joined NATO, as that would mean Russia would have to directly fight with NATO forces and having them at his borders, similar to the Cuban Missle Crisis. Given how Ukriane joining NATO made good progress in 2021, along with Biden pushing more sanctions on Russia, this speed up Russia's invasion. It gave the more reasons and incentive to do so.
My point is that Russia wanted to take Ukriane before they joined NATO, as that would mean Russia would have to directly fight with NATO forces and having them at his borders, similar to the Cuban Missle Crisis. Given how Ukriane joining NATO made good progress in 2021, along with Biden pushing more sanctions on Russia, this speed up Russia's invasion. It gave the more reasons and incentive to do so.
