Yeah boyo, that's a way broader term and it is not =/= science
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wissenschaft#Compared_to_the_term_"science"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wissenschaft#Compared_to_the_term_"science"
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The process in which historians work is different to science. There's only one true history, their job is to simply interpret it with the limited and often biased data they have, but there's no leaving that limited frame of what you find in your data. They can assume xyz reasons that caused xyz, but those are just assumptions and not scientific laws or proof or rules of any kind.
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Google translation from french wiki article:
@Logiko can you tell us how the word science is defined in French? Is it a more broad term like German Wissenschaft or more like English science? The wiki article makes it seem more similar to the German definition rather than the English one but I don't speak French.
Google translation from french wiki article:
@Logiko can you tell us how the word science is defined in French? Is it a more broad term like German Wissenschaft or more like English science? The wiki article makes it seem more similar to the German definition rather than the English one but I don't speak French.
No way to justify the act you are defending, you resort to your last card : "antisemite".
I guess jews who are demonstrating are also "antisemite" ?
Hi meritocracy, hi BS !
On the sides of oppressors no matter what... no surprises here.
The cult of "hard work", hi meritocracy ! Hi BS !
It is science. You simply have an oversimplified vision of it.
"Science (from the Latin scientia, “knowledge”, “to know”) is in its primary sense “the sum of knowledge” and more specifically a systematic enterprise of construction and organization of knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions. . "
So history is part of that. We can even say that history can be predictive if we talk about systemic rises of political system. The fact that the sources can be biases doesn't change the fact that history aims to the most unbiased approach possible of the past. This is therefore a scientific process.
I guess jews who are demonstrating are also "antisemite" ?
Hi meritocracy, hi BS !
On the sides of oppressors no matter what... no surprises here.
The cult of "hard work", hi meritocracy ! Hi BS !
It is science. You simply have an oversimplified vision of it.
"Science (from the Latin scientia, “knowledge”, “to know”) is in its primary sense “the sum of knowledge” and more specifically a systematic enterprise of construction and organization of knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions. . "
So history is part of that. We can even say that history can be predictive if we talk about systemic rises of political system. The fact that the sources can be biases doesn't change the fact that history aims to the most unbiased approach possible of the past. This is therefore a scientific process.
No way to justify the act you are defending, you resort to your last card : "antisemite".
I guess jews who are demonstrating are also "antisemite" ?
Hi meritocracy, hi BS !
On the sides of oppressors no matter what... no surprises here.
The cult of "hard work", hi meritocracy ! Hi BS !
It is science. You simply have an oversimplified vision of it.
"Science (from the Latin scientia, “knowledge”, “to know”) is in its primary sense “the sum of knowledge” and more specifically a systematic enterprise of construction and organization of knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions. . "
So history is part of that. We can even say that history can be predictive if we talk about systemic rises of political system. The fact that the sources can be biases doesn't change the fact that history aims to the most unbiased approach possible of the past. This is therefore a scientific process.
I guess jews who are demonstrating are also "antisemite" ?
Hi meritocracy, hi BS !
On the sides of oppressors no matter what... no surprises here.
The cult of "hard work", hi meritocracy ! Hi BS !
It is science. You simply have an oversimplified vision of it.
"Science (from the Latin scientia, “knowledge”, “to know”) is in its primary sense “the sum of knowledge” and more specifically a systematic enterprise of construction and organization of knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions. . "
So history is part of that. We can even say that history can be predictive if we talk about systemic rises of political system. The fact that the sources can be biases doesn't change the fact that history aims to the most unbiased approach possible of the past. This is therefore a scientific process.
We already established the English one
Having various historic sources and comparing them is not science. It's just reading what you have available. Forming an actual theory/prediction and testing it isn't possible for history. A theory is a well-established, tested explanation that provides a unified description of some aspect of the natural world.
Again, social sciences do not fonction in the same way as natural sciences, the process is not necessaraly the same.
The point is that all are pushing for an unbiased research of the unknown through scientific process. And yes History does that too. That's what science is. You will not manage to push it out of the scientific field I'm sorry
The point is that all are pushing for an unbiased research of the unknown through scientific process. And yes History does that too. That's what science is. You will not manage to push it out of the scientific field I'm sorry
Again, social sciences do not fonction in the same way as natural sciences, the process is not necessaraly the same.
The point is that all are pushing for an unbiased research of the unknown through scientific process. And yes History does that too. That's what science is. You will not manage to push it out of the scientific field I'm sorry
The point is that all are pushing for an unbiased research of the unknown through scientific process. And yes History does that too. That's what science is. You will not manage to push it out of the scientific field I'm sorry
No need to push it out since it's not considered science
Historian are scientist if we look at the prime definition of science.
I'm advocating for social sciences as a whole rather than just history. I could point you out to some sociologist or anthropologist but I've very little knowledge in history so that will be hard.
The point is that social science ARE a discipline of science and history is part of that. The fact that social sciences uses - sometimes - different method doesn't change the fact that they are aiming at a systematical and unbiased research of the reality (of the past in the case of history) through scientifics process or experimental methods. Which is what sciences are.
Now, you want to affirm that history is not a science, like I said, go talk with an historian (or rather a few because you will most likely have different opinion on the subject).
