forcing incompatible cultures to live in one place is what colonialists are doing. Just look at the borders of African countries, deliberately drawn to include as many ethnic and culture groups in one country and to split every individual group across multiple countries so nome of the countries can form a common identity with shared values. As long as people are busy fighting and hating each other you can always drain their material & mental resources by fuelling pre existing conflicts.
We can see the same phenomenon in Asia in multi ethnic countries that have 1 or 2 dominant groups and many regional minorities.
For once I have to agree with you.
Yes they are pushed to immigrate as a result of the West messing with other countries and destroying their economies. Everyone with a shred of intellectual honesty and general knowledge knows that European colonialism is the cause of Africa's poverty yet you'll find plenty Westerners today who believe that Africans are simply less evolved (racially) and that this is the reason. The same people you'll hear argue that immigration has to stop because quote "we can't save the whole world" . I've heard and read this line so often in this context. The lack of awareness among Westerners is next level.
And the almost the same can be applied to the middle east only that the west ruined these countries by perpetual conflicts and evidently deliver weapons to regimes that it publically criticizes.
Long story short, this whole mess results not only in neocolonialism outside of European but in additional auto- and recolonisation of Europe itself. The only ones benefitting are European elites and to some extent their affiliated proxies in the colonies outside of Europe.
Who doesn't benefit are the immigrants as well as the local European population.
why do we –Europeans– have to bring anything to other people? Why can't we let them live their lives and not force our idea of statehood, wealth and culture on them?
Humans naturally diversify. Strip them of their uniqueness and they'll come up with different views and ways of life sooner or later, leading to the formation of new cultures and genetically distinct groups with different linguistic varieties. Removing the cultures of people without their consent only leaves traumatized and emotionally unstable people that are more easily controlled than people with independent identities.
The only way a world without borders would ever work is with an actual world government in place that forcefully reestablishes the common culture through violence every time regional variations emerge. Essentially like a communist empire such as the USSR or PRC. Are you aware how minorities are 'dealt with' in these regimes?
We can see the same phenomenon in Asia in multi ethnic countries that have 1 or 2 dominant groups and many regional minorities.
For once I have to agree with you.
Yes they are pushed to immigrate as a result of the West messing with other countries and destroying their economies. Everyone with a shred of intellectual honesty and general knowledge knows that European colonialism is the cause of Africa's poverty yet you'll find plenty Westerners today who believe that Africans are simply less evolved (racially) and that this is the reason. The same people you'll hear argue that immigration has to stop because quote "we can't save the whole world" . I've heard and read this line so often in this context. The lack of awareness among Westerners is next level.
And the almost the same can be applied to the middle east only that the west ruined these countries by perpetual conflicts and evidently deliver weapons to regimes that it publically criticizes.
Long story short, this whole mess results not only in neocolonialism outside of European but in additional auto- and recolonisation of Europe itself. The only ones benefitting are European elites and to some extent their affiliated proxies in the colonies outside of Europe.
Who doesn't benefit are the immigrants as well as the local European population.
why do we –Europeans– have to bring anything to other people? Why can't we let them live their lives and not force our idea of statehood, wealth and culture on them?
Humans naturally diversify. Strip them of their uniqueness and they'll come up with different views and ways of life sooner or later, leading to the formation of new cultures and genetically distinct groups with different linguistic varieties. Removing the cultures of people without their consent only leaves traumatized and emotionally unstable people that are more easily controlled than people with independent identities.
The only way a world without borders would ever work is with an actual world government in place that forcefully reestablishes the common culture through violence every time regional variations emerge. Essentially like a communist empire such as the USSR or PRC. Are you aware how minorities are 'dealt with' in these regimes?
can y'all unlock the thread so I take back my vote? 
