Controversial General Political Discussion

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Herrera95

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Medeia said:
While i agree with some things Bisoromi mentioned, immigration is not the main issue for young europeans in particular who fueled this triumph of both far-right and conservatives in european elections the most, rather the main issues are the rising cost of living and even moreso "livelyhood insecurity".
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Isn't this about immigration anyway? Isn't immigrants the most cause of insecurity nowadays in Europe? And aren't they accepting getting paid less so they are overtaking all the low study (I forgot how they are called) jobs?

A bit off topic I've recently saw an article explaning how the youngs are avoiding universities and looking for technical courses instead where they could be more sure about having a job when they are done.

Medeia said:
While older generations were/are fearing job loss, younger generations fear to never land a job (let alone a well paid one) in the first place, no matter how many master or even PhD degrees they invest in and it's this fear that a study in Germany analyzed as what mainly drives the younger generations in Germany to the far-right since they don't believe left and liberal parties are up to the task to solve this big issue and this is truly the main task to solve for the younger generations if you want the EU to remain in existence long-term outside of political powers in other parts of the world threatening Europe (Trumpism, Putin, PRC).
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Yeah funny how the whole world always go back to the right when they need to be saved

Let me ask you, how is the "temperature" about a possible World War coming with this whole Russia x Otan situation?
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Akai2 said:
Porn not banned yet?

I thought crying about politics online would change the world to my tune:shocked:
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Porn is what keeps society sane.
 
Bisoromi Bear

Bisoromi Bear

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Herrera95 said:
Isn't this about immigration anyway? Isn't immigrants the most cause of insecurity nowadays in Europe? And aren't they accepting getting paid less so they are overtaking all the low study (I forgot how they are called) jobs?

A bit off topic I've recently saw an article explaning how the youngs are avoiding universities and looking for technical courses instead where they could be more sure about having a job when they are done.


Yeah funny how the whole world always go back to the right when they need to be saved

Let me ask you, how is the "temperature" about a possible World War coming with this whole Russia x Otan situation?
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Porn is what keeps society sane.
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You are so dumb.
 
AlmightyEneru

AlmightyEneru

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Adam 🍎 said:
So to end it, reason why right wingers and now rise of far right is kinda good, is bcs it defers immigrants for overflowing countries that can't handle them in any capacity, legal or illegal.
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The birth rates are the only important quantitative measurement that determines immigration and emigration flows on the planet in the long term (think in 1000s of years not just one human lifetime). Nothing can fix this number problem, besides forcing, or better incentivizing, Croatians (or any other countries) to have more children.

No industrialized country has above replacement level fertility. The right wing might fix it, since the current left government can not increase birth rates.
But relatively right wing conservative countries like Poland (1.32 Births per Woman), Japan or South Korea can have even lower fertility rates than left wing Sweden or Germany (1.58 births per woman). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate

Note how Israel is exceptional, since it the only modern fully industrialized country with 2.8 births per woman (means above replacement, (exponential) growth).

I wish we had more quantitative number discussions instead of qualitative discussions about imigration. How can we increase birth rates? Cloning? Child Money? Religion?

Are these good/bad?
 
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Bisoromi Bear

Bisoromi Bear

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Akai2 said:
Damn no U-turn signs anymore? :shocked:
http://imgur.com/a/KA5M97V
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This has to be joke right

AlmightyEneru said:
The birth rates are the only important quantitative measurement that determines immigration and emigration flows on the planet in the long term (think in 1000s of years not just one human lifetime). Nothing can fix this number problem, besides forcing, or better incentivizing, Croatians (or any other countries) to have more children.

No industrialized country has above replacement level fertility. The right wing might fix it, since the current left government can not increase birth rates.
But relatively right wing conservative countries like Poland (1.32 Births per Woman), Japan or South Korea can have even lower fertility rates than left wing Sweden or Germany (1.58 births per woman). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate

Note how Israel is exceptional, since it the only modern fully industrialized country with 2.8 births per woman (means above replacement, (exponential) growth).

I wish we had more quantitative number discussions instead of qualitative discussions about imigration. How can we increase birth rates? Cloning? Child Money? Religion?

Are these good/bad?
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You're implying that populations shrinking is a bad thing. We'd all to better if there were less humans considering the earth's resources are limited and we're already fighting resource wars. Some past societies solved their resource shortage issues through recurring ritualized warfare to reduce population numbers. And our stupid industrial cultures today are artificially trying to increase population numbers despite already limited resources and having convinced themselves that we can create resources out of thin air.
People need to get a grip already.
 
Medeia

Medeia

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Akai2 said:
How is this out of context? I literally saw it on the news
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/silver-lake-remove-no-u-turn-signs/3433130/
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And said article mentioned the historical context of those particular u-turns and that the no cruising signs were removed already in 2011. Now you could argue "why not just keep using these for what these road signs usually are for instead of bigotry" or that it's just virtue signalling to supposedly support a minority while not solving any issues they face today, but at least this choice to remove them wasn't just done randomly.
 
Akai2

Akai2

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Medeia said:
And said article mentioned the historical context of those particular u-turns and that the no cruising signs were removed already in 2011. Now you could argue "why not just keep using these for what these road signs usually are for instead of bigotry" or that it's just virtue signalling to supposedly support a minority while not solving any issues they face today, but at least this choice to remove them wasn't just done randomly.
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Bro I read all that I need someone to tell me if U-turns are actually allowed or not on these streets 😭
 
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