Is Bleach Better than Kingdom?


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Well let us just say I am in shock sir


Gaimou gives 0 shits about warfare, and his strategist was outplayed by a rookie Ten

This man was the military chief of his state and personally commanded armies against the goats of the era and survived to tell the tale
Gaimou is a powerful tool under the hands of someone like Homei or Reiou, but on his own someone this capable would come out on top
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Gaimou gives 0 shits about warfare, and his strategist was outplayed by a rookie Ten
-Gaimou loves warfare the same as Ouki and Renpa, he just loves the battlefield for different reasons than them. He loves the battlegrounds of death where the strong bully the weak, as he says. This is the source of Gaimou’s weight which rivals Renpa’s.

-Ten outplayed Junsou? I mean I recall him literally capturing her but okay lmfao

Imo Gaimou beats any Heavenly King
 
-Gaimou loves warfare the same as Ouki and Renpa, he just loves the battlefield for different reasons than them. He loves the battlegrounds of death where the strong bully the weak, as he says. This is the source of Gaimou’s weight which rivals Renpa’s.

-Ten outplayed Junsou? I mean I recall him literally capturing her but okay lmfao
Not talking about weight, but tactics and strategy. Gaimou charges like a bull wherever he likes without giving a rat's ass about Junsou's plans. Not really the ideal commander
Junsou was outplayed by Ten on the second day and he admitted it himself
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Not talking about weight, but tactics and strategy. Gaimou charges like a bull wherever he likes without giving a rat's ass about Junsou's plans. Not really the ideal commander
Junsou was outplayed by Ten on the second day and he admitted it himself
Y’all still putting too much emphasis on tactics lol. Gaimou will overpower whatever tactics Kyou’En throws at him with martial might.
 
Y’all still putting too much emphasis on tactics lol. Gaimou will overpower whatever tactics Kyou’En throws at him with martial might.
In a small scale war sure, that's why I favored Gaimou in this certain scenario
When larger armies are involved things get messy
Also it is not like Gaimou does warfare the Moubu way, they are nothing alike from what we saw in Wei arc
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
In a small scale war sure, that's why I favored Gaimou in this certain scenario
When larger armies are involved things get messy
Also it is not like Gaimou does warfare the Moubu way, they are nothing alike from what we saw in Wei arc
Gaimou is a Fire Dragon, which means he has almost certainly lead armies consisting of hundreds of thousands of men and achieved victories which those huge armies for Wei. Can we say the same about Kyou En? Not really, we know he was the head of a small state which doesn’t mean he’s ever lead an army of 100k men. Gaimou probably has, successfully.

I think it’s the opposite man. The more men you give Gaimou, the more in-his-element he is since he is a Fire Dragon lol.

Now sure I don’t know what tactics Gaimou knows if any at all, but I can’t picture a Great General of a major state getting bodied by any run of the mill strategist lol.
 
Gaimou is a Fire Dragon, which means he has almost certainly lead armies consisting of hundreds of thousands of men and achieved victories which those huge armies for Wei. Can we say the same about Kyou En? Not really, we know he was the head of a small state which doesn’t mean he’s ever lead an army of 100k men. Gaimou probably has, successfully.

I think it’s the opposite man. The more men you give Gaimou, the more in-his-element he is since he is a Fire Dragon lol.
Being a fire dragon doesn't mean anything really
Such a fearsome warrior like Gaimou makes a great representative of the military might of Wei and thus was made a fire dragon
That by itself does not mean that Gaimou led armies by the hundreds of thousands, and the Wei dragons never really reached fame so I don't know what sort of victories we are talking about here. Kyouen on the other hand more than once fought Hakuki Ouki Renpa and more as the commander of his state, there is direct hype to his name.
Gaimou was portrayed as a monstrous warrior who enjoys drinking fucking and killing, without care for any form of tactics or strategy
He has a decent strategist who tries to guide him to the best of his ability but he's not anyone special (Junsou)
 
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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Being a fire dragon doesn't mean anything really
Such a fearsome warrior like Gaimou makes a great representative of the military might of Wei and thus was made a fire dragon
Being a Great General means achieving massive victories for your state, against other Generals and Great Generals

Gaimou wasn’t just a Great General, he was a named Great General (IE, Fire Dragon). How can you say being named a Great General of a major state doesn’t mean anything lmfao…when Kyou’En never became a Great General of Zhao at all.

That by itself does not mean that Gaimou led armies by the hundreds of thousands, and the Wei dragons never really reached fame so I don't know what sort of victories we are talking about here.
The Fire Dragons did reach fame:


Their legends didn’t carry into the current era because they ceased to exist long before the Q6 and Zhao3 solidified their legends, but these guys were known across all of China as heroes lol

Gaimou was portrayed as a monstrous warrior who enjoys drinking fucking and killing, without care for the any form of tactics or strategy
Again why are you so obsessed with tactics and strategy lmfao, we’ve seen plenty of Great Generals who don’t care much for tactics and strategy. A Great General isn’t someone who studies tactics and strategy, a Great General is someone who leads armies to victory by whatever methods possible. And this is what Gaimou did for Wei.
 
That by itself does not mean that Gaimou led armies by the hundreds of thousands, and the Wei dragons never really reached fame so I don't know what sort of victories we are talking about here.
Gaimou apparently took the heads of 100+ generals in battle. If you think about it, it's unlikely those guys all just accepted the duel when Gaimou shouted to them, but rather he had to work his way to have 1 vs 1.

On his own Gaimou probably doesn't do much commanding, but when you combine him with 91 intel of Jousou then I don't think any of Heavenly Kings can match them.
 
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