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Macron rolling out the red carpet for the far right by dissolving the National Assembly. Eric Ciotti making an alliance with Vichy. Francois Hollande betraying social democracy for neo liberalism and thus killing the hope for the left. Big news channels saying that wanting peace in Palestine is an antisemite and extremist position… so many people to blame.
Currently watching France going toward post-fascism (Italy, Hungary, Turkey, Israel & Russia) within a month.
To think that it all started with Hayek, Reagan and Thatcher 🤡
Currently watching France going toward post-fascism (Italy, Hungary, Turkey, Israel & Russia) within a month.
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To think that it all started with Hayek, Reagan and Thatcher 🤡
This one was rather a slow burn and not really unexpected. It has been common leftist knowledge that liberals (media and politics) and others conservative rightist (UMP, old school LR) have been preping the field for the arrival of the far right, so Macron doing the same things once in power wasn't a surprise. It is horrible and dangerous, but not really a shock.
Francois Hollande was quite a treason too, but I was too apolitical at the time to pay attention to his politic. And it really not surprising since the PS was always quite sos dem to begin with. And we can't trust sos dems to really apply a radical politic by themselves.
Yup, if I were given point for the arrival of the far right in power in France. I would say that media are responsible to at least a level of 80%
This video sums up clearly and perfectly the problem (if you guys want to understand, the automatic subs might do the job)
Francois Hollande was quite a treason too, but I was too apolitical at the time to pay attention to his politic. And it really not surprising since the PS was always quite sos dem to begin with. And we can't trust sos dems to really apply a radical politic by themselves.
Yup, if I were given point for the arrival of the far right in power in France. I would say that media are responsible to at least a level of 80%
This video sums up clearly and perfectly the problem (if you guys want to understand, the automatic subs might do the job)
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Dude, if you’re gonna talk about money in politics I’d suggest looking into the billionaire money your boy has been taking as of late, or all the money he took from the saudis through his golf courses. Or better yet, read about project 2025. You’re simply projecting your lack of knowledge regarding campaign funding and Trumps actual policy positions and pretending I’m here watching MSNBC and CNN every night. I’m not the one pretending that J6 was a ANTIFA conspiracy.
Further reading for anyone who's interested
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/05/project-2025-death-penalty-trump-biden-wake-up-call.html
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/20/donald-trump-allies-christian-nationalism-00142086
https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...ico-military-cartels-war-on-drugs-1234705804/
https://archive.ph/20240613163017/h...e.com/2024/06/13/nation/project-25-explained/
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/20/donald-trump-allies-christian-nationalism-00142086
https://web.archive.org/web/20240318165839/https://www.project2025.org/playbook/
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/17/us/politics/trump-plans-2025.html
Peak insanity
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/05/project-2025-death-penalty-trump-biden-wake-up-call.html
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/20/donald-trump-allies-christian-nationalism-00142086
https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...ico-military-cartels-war-on-drugs-1234705804/
https://archive.ph/20240613163017/h...e.com/2024/06/13/nation/project-25-explained/
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/20/donald-trump-allies-christian-nationalism-00142086
https://web.archive.org/web/20240318165839/https://www.project2025.org/playbook/
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/17/us/politics/trump-plans-2025.html
Peak insanity
It was a shock though. Maybe we should have seen it coming with the likes of conservatives who welcomed Mussolini and Hitla to power. To be fair, between Ciotti and Macron what is even the remaining difference ? This immigration law they passed hand in hand with the far right still gives me headaches.
It was a shock though. Maybe we should have seen it coming with the likes of conservatives who welcomed Mussolini and Hitla to power. To be fair, between Ciotti and Macron what is even the remaining difference ? This immigration law they passed hand in hand with the far right still gives me headaches.
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It was a shock though. Maybe we should have seen it coming with the likes of conservatives who welcomed Mussolini and Hitla to power. To be fair, between Ciotti and Macron what is even the remaining difference ? This immigration law they passed hand in hand with the far right still gives me headaches.
Well, there is still a difference between the far right and the right (liberals). Those are two different political streams. But I'd say that Macron is a free electron at the very right of the liberal spectrum.
Sometimes he will get to the progressive side, sometimes to the conservative ones.
My guess is that the guy doesn't really have a moral compass. He is mostly an opportunist that believe that his rationnality is superior to everything. That's why he will acts as he wants and still rationnalize his bad descision.
The problem is that Macron (or the liberals/rightist overall) are not at all rationnal, they are idealistic. They do not create politics based on reality or the scientific consensus, but on how they believe the reality should be.
This vision, if not controlled, only has two (indirect) potential ending points:
- Dictatorship
- Fascism
It looks like we are headed toward the second in France. Take a look at what this guy is saying:
The guy is basically saying "people with two nationalities won't be able to have a post in public fonction".. which is a justification to rationnalize the fact that they want to get rid of arabs people in public fonction.
In short, not only the far right in France wants to get rid of the immigrations and prevent stranger from having basic social rights and social aids, but they want ALSO to prevent a large part of FRENCH PEOPLE from accessing to a LOT of posts.
This is literally the far right saying that there will be "good french people" and "bad french people". And of course it opens the path to even more similar politics. We can for example imagine that binational people will have less and less access to social services for example...
This is how fascism started in the first place.
All of that because some rich journalist and their billionnaire bosses thought it would be fun to dediabolize the far right on TV and let them have access to all public debates.
Sometimes he will get to the progressive side, sometimes to the conservative ones.
My guess is that the guy doesn't really have a moral compass. He is mostly an opportunist that believe that his rationnality is superior to everything. That's why he will acts as he wants and still rationnalize his bad descision.
The problem is that Macron (or the liberals/rightist overall) are not at all rationnal, they are idealistic. They do not create politics based on reality or the scientific consensus, but on how they believe the reality should be.
This vision, if not controlled, only has two (indirect) potential ending points:
- Dictatorship
- Fascism
It looks like we are headed toward the second in France. Take a look at what this guy is saying:
The guy is basically saying "people with two nationalities won't be able to have a post in public fonction".. which is a justification to rationnalize the fact that they want to get rid of arabs people in public fonction.
In short, not only the far right in France wants to get rid of the immigrations and prevent stranger from having basic social rights and social aids, but they want ALSO to prevent a large part of FRENCH PEOPLE from accessing to a LOT of posts.
This is literally the far right saying that there will be "good french people" and "bad french people". And of course it opens the path to even more similar politics. We can for example imagine that binational people will have less and less access to social services for example...
This is how fascism started in the first place.
All of that because some rich journalist and their billionnaire bosses thought it would be fun to dediabolize the far right on TV and let them have access to all public debates.
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